Bid Product XL brushless motor
 

Has anyone tried this Brushless motor?Its called a Feibao?:whip:kinda looks like a Hacker but I know it cant be.Its only 46.00.

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Where's it come from or more like who is selling it?

Yes - check out suicideneil's post on it - IIRC he toasted it - conclusion was about the same as a feigao i think

I think I am going to get one for my brotherinlaws e-savage. I like that its finned and bolted togeather like the hackers. I know its the same quality as the feigaos but its cheap and doent need a clamp. so the 50 bucks shipped to your door is a good deal. As long as you treat it for what it is guess its alright.

BiProducts 36-74 motor


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Thanks guys I just read the whole thread started previously.I actualy purchased 1 of these motors sept. 18th and havnt received it yet.Should I use 5.5mm connectors?

5.5's should be fine

5.5mm will get the job done, 4mm would probablly be fine. I would make sure you gear the motor accordingly. In the other thread, the one that was getting hot was being run on 5s A123 and geared 62/25 which assuming the truck has stock diffs is geared for almost 50MPH, I wouldn't shoot for more than 40 and check temps then

I order one of these from them a month ago and still haven't receive it, i've already filed PayPal dispute before 45 days is up, make sure you do too or you will never see your money again

The day after I ordered it I received a email stating that I would receive the motor in 12-22 days its been 17 days so I will keep my fingers crossed.:diablo:

WOW thats a long wait! WHere do you all live and where is the motor being sent from?

I am looking at ordering one very soon! Got to replace my dieing feigao

Think It Over.
 

so the 50 bucks shipped to your door is a good deal.

Really think about your purchases. It may only cost you $50, but if it is a piece of crap, then you have waisted $50, and will have to spend more to go in another direction. Why not just go for a good well known NEU type motor, and have a better satisfaction/experience overall. I know money is always an issue and we tend to always be in a hurry to get things done, but prudence is a better way to go in the long run. Don't be in such a hurry, and make the right decision up front. Good luck with your choice.:lol:

My issue is that I only have a 80amp esc to work with and a 60mm max can length. This is going to replace a 10l feigao I borrowed from my brotherinlaw (it was working fine in his esavage but it wasnt enough motor to push around my bigger e-revo. I would help him get a better motor if I could get one that would fit and wouldnt be to much for his 80amp mgm esc

I purchased several hundred dollars worth of connectors and cables from this company. They ship from China using regular airmail and it can take weeks to receive the orders. Some items are shipped in several packages and arrive piecemeal. However so far they have sent everything I ordered. There is a Bidproduct forum where you can get support - the company does appear to fullfill all the orders even if they are missing / faulty.

The motor in question looks exactly like a hacker once it is mounted on the truck. There is a difference - the end bell is screwed in but looks different to the Hacker when held side by side. Otherwise external construction wise it is hard to say it is not a Hacker - the colour, fins and shaft look good.

In operation it does the job. I realise that it is cheap imitation but for $46.00 you get what you pay for. If it was my one and only motor purchase I would not buy this motor but to try it out - I didn't think it was a bad purchase. If you dont push your truck to the limits and want to experiment with a Basic brushless setup on a stock truck I think this motor will work for you. A New motor will give you much pleassure but then it is 5 times more expensive.

I personally like to push the setups I have and therefore prefer Lehner, Neu or Plettenberg BL motors. I would put this motor in the same category as a Feigao - good value for money and a real Blast while it lasts.

I say put the $50 towards a Medusa Research motor... The 70mm cans are supposed to be coming out soon.

I would love too get the medusa motor but my problem is that my brotherinlaw only has a 80 amp esc and a max of 60mm can leangth that will fit his truck.

I have had 4 lehner motors and about 10 feigaos and let me tell you there IS a huge difference between them. I am fully aware of that. I have killed one of the lehners and had 5 of the feigaos die on me. The rest still work even after many years of use.

If theses motors are a huge hassle to get and take a while I will just get a feigao from mike to replace the 10l(we already have the heatsink/clamp)

Hi - Go for a medusa 60mm 2000 or lower KV - fits your requirements.

Appreciate it is just over the $100 but worth the difference - You can use your L clamp with it too...

Sweet, I just email meduse about the motor too to get there opinion. It looks like it will fit the bill. I think the 80amp mgm will handle it. Its a tough esc and if it handled the 7xl as well as it did with out a fan and one heat sink coverd up I think the medusa will be a walk in the park for it.

I wouldn't waste my money on that peice of crap. The factory that makes those are messed up in the head or something. I got 2 of those and they came with 1/8" shaft and they won't even bother fixing the issue.

This is the motor I received today.This thing if freakin huge it has a 5mm shaft that is keyed.The rear endbell is bolted on.Its going into my Slayer tomorrow.Its too big to fit in my Matrix.Whats the best way to splice wires to this motor that will have 6.5mm bullets to hook up to the MMM females on the esc?:party::whip:
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Phat,

Let us know hot that thing works out. I assume it is the blue one.

No the blue motor is a Tekno Neu 1515/1y.The purple motor is the Bid product motor.For 50 bucks it seems to good to be true we shall see.

So how long did it take to get it from them?

Make some extension wires that have female bullets that fit the motor male bullets on one side, and male 6.5mm on the other end for the esc.

Plug and Play.

22 days, they stated 12 -22 days in the order confirmation.

22 days isnt that bad I guess. Since you were expecting it.

It when you are looking for it in 3 day and it shows up in 22, thats when 22 days is bad

Like I said before, I wouldn't waste my hard earned dime on those. The factory has no support what so ever and if your motor fails you're money just goes down the drain. What=y don't you all save up for a Medusa, Neu or a Mega or mine when they come out.

agreed dont waste the time / money or effort with these . i had one 2200kv and it threw the magnets on 4s lipo .. i spose they MAY be OK if u keep them about 30k rpm , but any more the magnets go bye bye .. buy a medusa $50 is half way there and it will last 4 times as long as these china junk

there isn't even a 2200Kv one for this particular motor, are you sure you got the same motor?

2370kv to be exact . and yes im sure i got the same motor ! i just rounded figure cause i couldnt remember the exact rpm/v

its a shame cause these motors do look great quality build from the outside . near on exact copy of a hacker c50

may be you guys are pushing it too hard, but who doesnt? what setup to you run and for how long until it blow? I want to try getting one of these but may be in the lower Kv, may be 1845Kv or even 1660Kv and run on 6s. Anyone try the smooth can version? they look to be from different manufacture than finned can

I had similar motors running with my HV set up showing spikes of 40-60A and then they just quit. Save up for a better motor.

Yea ya cant go wrong with the Neu line of motors I happen to have 3 of them.Is there any mods Lutach that can be done to these motors to add durability?And when you say simular were yours the exact motor?This is a 2770 kv the end bell is bolted on and the shaft is keyed also the magnet strength resembles the original Neus not the current easier turning models.This particular motor is longer and has a larger diameter than my Neu 1515/1.5d/f motor.I am gonna take it aprt to inspect the inside.



If common sense was so common everyone would have it

I don't think an mods will help these motors. I was thinking of a nice little water cooling system, but that would just add more weight. The ones I bought from Hobbycity were made by the same factory Keda (Hance the KD on the Hobbycity ones). One thing to make sure is to use Loctite on the screwed on front end and also on the screws at the rear end. Most high quality 2 pole motor designs don't have that strong of cogging to them. You should see how smooth Lehners and Hackers are when you turn them.

How many poles would this motor have.Also it only has screws on the rear endbell.I fit it into my Matrix buggy on 4s MMMv2 did a dozen high speed passes on asphalt and it was only warm to the touch.When I had the Fiegao in the same buggy same number of passes on the road the fiegao was hot.I realy dont know what to expect.I guess its like driving the escort to work and keeping my RX7 in the garage.My Neu motors are are like my1984 mint condition RX7.Cant touch that carburated rotary engine.

My 2 pole motors were performing good too and then they failed for no reason at all.

Allright guys I ran the motor yesterday on 4s lipo in my 9lb buggy for 10 minutes in med. grass and ran it hard.It temped out at 180 degrees F.It probabably would do better temp wise on 3s.The outside air temp was 70 degrees F.Since I no longer have any 3s batteries its probably will go on wee-bay.That same 9lb buggy with its Tekno Neu 1515/1.5 motor temps out 40 degrees cooler.Too bad they realy made it to look like it is a good quality motor.Any one interested in taking it pm me.

Does anyone know the max rpm is on these motors.The Fiegaos' max rpm is 40,000

Max RPM is 40,000 they claim. I doubt it though because they are basically feigao motors, and typically feigaos don't like RPM over 35,000.