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mikey09120 10.09.2008 12:09 AM

another e-revo build
 
hey guys, im new to rc-monster but definately not to RC.
i have owned a revo 2.5r and currently have an e-revo that is upgrading to brushless soon
so here ae all the parts
  • MMM
  • neu1515/1y/s
  • VDP (variable dampening pistons)
  • badlands squeezed onto heavily modified black-chrome geminis
  • paddles...
  • 2 SPC 2s 8000mah lipos
  • HD servo saver spring
  • various springs/shock oil
  • wheelie bar wheels
  • exo-carbon wing :happy:
  • whellie bar(traxxas)
  • single motor plate/gear cover
  • RIT dye(black)
  • black shrink wrap
  • 5955TG servo
  • extended wheelbase arms(traxxas)
  • extended track kit(kershaw)
  • extended wheelbase axle carriers (qoncepts)
  • radio(????) which one?
  • sway bar kit(tekno)
  • various pinions and spurs
  • TRX-connectors
  • white high quality spray paint :lol:
  • clear body
  • charger/balancer(???) which one?
and it will be a ninja e-revo in that everything is black and will be sandblated and enameled or dyed or etc. (except bright white gloss body) :rofl:
maybe i coould get a few suggestions or coments on my project should be done by christmas for glamis season
let me know what you think
thanx for reading

TDC57 10.09.2008 01:56 AM

Sounds like a great project!.. :yes:

Comments: :whistle:
4s is ok, but why not with two 3s = 6s here is site for some Zipy's 3s. https://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/...idProduct=6350

Get a external BEC for your MMM = CC http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...stlebec&cat=21

Use the liquid dye not the powder!..

Any two channel radio will work; I picked up a Spektrum DX2.0 used for $120 (2.4 ghz)

Make sure you get the mod 1 pinions and spur gears. Jato spur work great and give you options.

A true carbon wing will shatter on you, I use this one and it held of months of bashing
http://www.impaktrc.com/product_info...0e44341af7ef3f

You might want to check out my E-Revo build for ideas: :wink:
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11434


Questions: :neutral:
The is the VDP (variable dampening pistons) got a linc ?
Wheelie bar(traxxas) Got a lic ?
Are you getting this trans (?)http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail.php?prod=GMX07-TR

Looking forward to see some progress, sounds like a great project and best of luck..

Have a great one and thanks for posting and WELCOME to the monster..

Shaun.

JThiessen 10.09.2008 09:42 AM

Jato spur is NOT mod1 - it is .8 Mod/32P. I think TDC meant to say use .8 mod or 32P gearing, NOT mod1.

Also, I think the jury is still out on the benefit of the external BEC for the MMM. Many OPINIONS on this, but no clear cut yes/no on its benefit. Read more about it in the Castle forum, and develop your own opinion.

Any of the 2.4 radio systems will work great. Anything less than 2.4, not so great.

The hyperion line of chargers seems to be the fav among this crowd. Pretty much cant go wrong with the Duo.

At a minimum, get an aluminum internal diff cup for the rear diff, or maybe even the Maximizer steel one. You'll need it at some point.

Quote:

extended wheelbase arms(traxxas)
extended track kit(kershaw)
extended wheelbase axle carriers (qoncepts)
These seem redundant. The Traxxas arms seem to be holding up well for most. I run RPM, and have had good luck with them. I just purchased a set of the True Track rears, and we'll see how those hold up.

Get yourself an assortment of springs. You are going to need them to get the truck rebalanced. I have significant issues with the front on mine, as the GC seems to be about 1-2" forward of where it used to be.

TDC - I bought my Traxxaswheelie bar and VDP shock system from Tower. I found the part number on the Traxxas site, then searched tower by part number for the VDP kit.

Good luck with your build.

suicideneil 10.09.2008 06:17 PM

I dont think the extra width of the kershaw kit is required, though with the extra extra long wheelbase that the Qoncpets knuckles and setback arms will give, it might improve the proportions on the visual side (long and wide, girls like that I think...).

Rest of the list looks sound enough, but again, the extra BEC may not help you- the MMM v3 will be a good'n hopefully so no need for it.

mikey09120 10.09.2008 07:26 PM

thanx for the replies guys.
yah i meant the traxxas ex0-carbon wing
i am goin to use the liquid dye
and 4s is good for 45mph and a long runtime
im in for runtime since speed isnt too exciting
im all off road
and im using the stock e-revo trans
no conversion here... :lol:
im not interested in an external BEC. too lazy. plus castle has great service and when and if it does go out ... V3!!!
ill stick with stock diiffs for now. they are "brushless ready" ill replace as soon as they turn into boxes of metal (or plastic hmmmm..) dust
the extended track is for:
i like the wider stance and i cant run offset with geminis(i love those 5 spoke black chrome)
it is also for long travel when ever i put the 120mm rockers in

BlackedOutREVO 10.09.2008 08:19 PM

I think I am the one to approve its its blacked out

Hahahaha. Sounds cool, get some pics up!

mikey09120 10.09.2008 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackedOutREVO (Post 220984)
I think I am the one to approve its blacked out

Hahahaha. Sounds cool, get some pics up!

got to get everything ordered.i have to balance school and work
altogether should be a little over $1100
man... thats alot. so far i got 600 in cash which is good for MMM+neu+batts+charger
then all the accesories ad up to (drum roll please) ... alot! haha

mikey09120 10.09.2008 08:27 PM

oh wait i need a radio. time to hack my savings account!!!:lol:

mikey09120 10.21.2008 07:06 PM

i was wondering
i was thinking about getting this batt but it has 8g wire and wont fit into a traxxas connector and requires battery wire hole modification
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...00mAh_25C_3S1P
or this one because it has normal size wires and 200 more maH. but the amps range from 100-150 and a neu 1515/1y pulls 110. so...im stuck between a cookie and a soft place
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...0C_Lipoly_Pack
so which one?:neutral:

suicideneil 10.22.2008 01:16 PM

Dont fear the 8g wire- I've seen someone fit their traxxas plugs fine, just requires a careful bit of trimming on the insulation (the wire itself will fit fine, just trim the insulation flush with the connector housing). As for the hole in the battery compartment for the wire to exit- a dremel cures all ills :yes:

Have no fear over minor modifications to the chassis like that, it wont hurt anything, nor will it look ugly if you have a steady hand and take your time with the dremel, or even some small hand files.

mikey09120 10.22.2008 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 224988)
Dont fear the 8g wire- I've seen someone fit their traxxas plugs fine, just requires a careful bit of trimming on the insulation (the wire itself will fit fine, just trim the insulation flush with the connector housing). As for the hole in the battery compartment for the wire to exit- a dremel cures all ills :yes:

Have no fear over minor modifications to the chassis like that, it wont hurt anything, nor will it look ugly if you have a steady hand and take your time with the dremel, or even some small hand files.

im not scared of modifying the chassis but somebody had done that and it cut there wires a bit so i was thinking about putting a rubber grommet around what i dremeled. so i guess il go with the zippy-r's. more C rating and a teensy bit less maH. ive also heard the enerland cells. :mdr:

mikey09120 11.08.2008 10:20 PM

update:
i will be using the 2200kv combo from castle
im going to use the traxxas 2.4ghz radio
i will use these zippy 4s 4400maH
and two of these instead of a 5955tg
i will also be using the traxxas tubes in carbon black

E-Revonut 11.08.2008 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey09120 (Post 225076)
im not scared of modifying the chassis but somebody had done that and it cut there wires a bit so i was thinking about putting a rubber grommet around what i dremeled. so i guess il go with the zippy-r's. more C rating and a teensy bit less maH. ive also heard the enerland cells. :mdr:

Rather than taking a dremel to the chassis dremel the battery doors! Thats what I did cause even 2x12ga wire can be a tight fit and then when I upgraded from MA to Neu packs that had 10ga I took a little moor off the battery door to allow for the wire. The battery doors are much cheaper and easier to replace if strength becomes an issue. As far as the batteries go I would check out neumotors.com and see if they are still having a sale! When I picked up my 2 3s packs I saved about $150. Hyperion chargers are the way to go, feature packed and easy to use, no external balancer required. The duo is a great charger for anyone running a truck that takes multiple packs. Although MaxAmps Lipos are looked down upon they are still a great source for chargers, connectors, shrink, and such. Good luck with your project!

mikey09120 11.08.2008 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 230752)
Rather than taking a dremel to the chassis dremel the battery doors! Thats what I did cause even 2x12ga wire can be a tight fit and then when I upgraded from MA to Neu packs that had 10ga I took a little moor off the battery door to allow for the wire. The battery doors are much cheaper and easier to replace if strength becomes an issue. As far as the batteries go I would check out neumotors.com and see if they are still having a sale! When I picked up my 2 3s packs I saved about $150. Hyperion chargers are the way to go, feature packed and easy to use, no external balancer required. The duo is a great charger for anyone running a truck that takes multiple packs. Although MaxAmps Lipos are looked down upon they are still a great source for chargers, connectors, shrink, and such. Good luck with your project!

oops. i meant doors buyt no need for the modification
the new batts im getting are normal sized
they will be wired like this since the BL edition comes in series and i could always take the adaptor off and run two 3s for speed runs
http://i36.tinypic.com/n5htg8.jpg

JThiessen 11.08.2008 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey09120 (Post 230740)
update:
i will be using the 2200kv combo from castle
im going to use the traxxas 2.4ghz radio
i will use these zippy 4s 4400maH
and two of these instead of a 5955tg
i will also be using the traxxas tubes in carbon black

Is that traxxas 2.4 radio even going to be available for purchase individually before chistmas?

I couldnt tell you anything about those servo's. Personally, I'd stick with the stock traxxas ones until you can afford to buy a single good one.

Also, If you are buying 4S batteries, you can ONLY run them in parrallel on the MMM - its only rated for 6S.

E-Revonut 11.08.2008 11:12 PM

What batteries are these your planning on running that are 4s and fit in the battery box on the E-REVO? 3s 4900mah is a tight squeeze.

mikey09120 11.08.2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 230765)
Is that traxxas 2.4 radio even going to be available for purchase individually before chistmas?

I couldnt tell you anything about those servo's. Personally, I'd stick with the stock traxxas ones until you can afford to buy a single good one.

Also, If you are buying 4S batteries, you can ONLY run them in parrallel on the MMM - its only rated for 6S.

i hope the radio will release before otherwise i could try those glitch busters
i was thinking about staying stock but they cant be much worse than traxxas servos. better torque and speed. i want to save for a good single but i the 5955tg's are discontinued and replaced by the more expensive 7955tg and would need a programmer i think and an aluminum single arm. and as stated before im runnin them in parellel

mikey09120 11.08.2008 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 230766)
What batteries are these your planning on running that are 4s and fit in the battery box on the E-REVO? 3s 4900mah is a tight squeeze.

zippy 4s 4400maH in parellel
edit: 140x30x49mm

JThiessen 11.08.2008 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey09120 (Post 230772)
i hope the radio will release before otherwise i could try those glitch busters
i was thinking about staying stock but they cant be much worse than traxxas servos. better torque and speed. i want to save for a good single but i the 5955tg's are discontinued and replaced by the more expensive 7955tg and would need a programmer i think and an aluminum single arm. and as stated before im runnin them in parellel

Yeah, so why spend the money on these...at 19 bucks each, I can almost guarantee that they are not going to last, and highly doubt you will gain anything over the stockers. The single biggest issue people have with the stock ones is that they can get out of time, and work against each other. IHMO, you will only waste 30% of the money you could use for a single servo.
You dont have to purchase anything more than the servo to run it. You can just trim the unused arm off (or just leave it). You dont need the programming kit either - thats for flyers.

I'd listen to the other guys on the batteries....I think you might have a hard time fitting 4S in the tray. My brother in law has the 4S 4900 Zippy's, and if I get the chance, I'll see if they fit in the tray on the chassis I have.

mikey09120 11.08.2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 230780)
Yeah, so why spend the money on these...at 19 bucks each, I can almost guarantee that they are not going to last, and highly doubt you will gain anything over the stockers. The single biggest issue people have with the stock ones is that they can get out of time, and work against each other. IHMO, you will only waste 30% of the money you could use for a single servo.
You dont have to purchase anything more than the servo to run it. You can just trim the unused arm off (or just leave it). You dont need the programming kit either - thats for flyers.

I'd listen to the other guys on the batteries....I think you might have a hard time fitting 4S in the tray. My brother in law has the 4S 4900 Zippy's, and if I get the chance, I'll see if they fit in the tray on the chassis I have.

if the servos dont work then oh well. back to stock. if they do then people have cheap replacements. and the batts are 140x30x49 so they fit fine. if they lied oh well. i can sell them or mod the trays

mikey09120 11.09.2008 12:53 AM

any ideas for chargers. really cheap with balancing or a seperate balancer
how bout the first one in this page
and the second on this page

suicideneil 11.09.2008 02:05 PM

If you want cheap chargers with a built in balance harness, then visit hobbycity- I would advise against $30 weird chargers that magically auto-detect the the capacity- thats too cheap to be a safe bet in my eyes.

I would say take your pick from the ones on these pages:

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...6&ParentCat=85

Most will require a seperate power supply though- the hyperion 50watt jobby has a built in powersupply and balancing feature for a modest $130-150, though charge current is reduced when you use larger voltage/mah packs.

mikey09120 11.09.2008 05:44 PM

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...Charge_Capable
and this
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...A_Power_Supply
if the power supply is 12V. will it be able to charge a 14.8V 4cell

suicideneil 11.09.2008 06:42 PM

Interesting charger that- chargers through the balance taps. That does limit you to a 2amp output, but combined with that power supply it will make a nice cheap setup- it will work for charging 4s lipos yeah, have a read of the reviews- some useful info in there :yes:

mikey09120 11.09.2008 10:32 PM

this would also work right?
http://img253.imageshack.us/img253/3...gram001pt3.jpg

BL_RV0 11.10.2008 10:49 AM

No. You are effectively wiring the batteries in series. As earlier stated, MMM is only rated for 6s. ƒ∂ß

mikey09120 11.10.2008 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_RV0 (Post 231265)
No. You are effectively wiring the batteries in series. As earlier stated, MMM is only rated for 6s. ƒ∂ß

are you sure? parellel is + to + and - to - i have only changed where the negative wire will be. both the first and second are parellel right?
just want to reverify

stum 11.10.2008 01:36 PM

Yes that is wired in parallel, what ESC is that w/ dual plugs though? The jumper on one side completes the circuit and the batteries are in parallel into the other plug.

mikey09120 11.10.2008 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stum (Post 231308)
Yes that is wired in parallel, what ESC is that w/ dual plugs though? The jumper on one side completes the circuit and the batteries are in parallel into the other plug.

the MMM in a BL edition e-revo is wired in series and i want to make an adaptor to run parellel but be able to disconnect whenever i want series for 6s

E-Revonut 11.10.2008 04:34 PM

Put a male end on the MMM then use http://www.maxamps.com/Deans-Series-Adapter.htm this for a series connection and http://www.maxamps.com/Deans-Parallel-Adapter.htm this for a parrallel connection. Of course you can make your own with whatever connector you want. I prefer Traxxas connectors myself, MaxAmps only sells a series connector with Traxxas ends, but you can make your own parrallel one.

mikey09120 11.10.2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 231387)
Put a male end on the MMM then use http://www.maxamps.com/Deans-Series-Adapter.htm this for a series connection and http://www.maxamps.com/Deans-Parallel-Adapter.htm this for a parrallel connection. Of course you can make your own with whatever connector you want. I prefer Traxxas connectors myself, MaxAmps only sells a series connector with Traxxas ends, but you can make your own parrallel one.

wow! thanx. i would never have thought of that! in will use the traxxas connectors and feamle on batts to prevent shorts. im goin to make my own harness's . tahnx for the idea
edit: new diagram
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/3...gramju2.th.pnghttp://img217.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif

stum 11.10.2008 07:37 PM

This may help some peope understand...

http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w...h/IMG_1610.jpg

suicideneil 11.10.2008 08:09 PM

A series harness, with a parallel adaptor on one side, and a jumper on the other. How very multi-functional :yes:

mikey09120 11.10.2008 09:04 PM

wow guys! this is all assuming that it will come with batt wires soldered to the board. if they are bullets than it is apiece of cake. i need to order a couple ounces of common sense. im glad it got simpler

mikey09120 11.10.2008 09:40 PM

and here it is
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/4008/001li4.jpg

mikey09120 12.02.2008 11:58 PM

couple more questions...
as you know. i have been thinking of buying the slayer parts necessary to convert my e-revo to an e-slayer when i want to.
i will need
arms
driveshafts
push rods
turnbuckles
axle carriers
tires/wheels
now here is where i am stuck
wheels:
-EPIC
-SC8

tires:
-flat iron
-switch


bodies:
-traxxas
-hardcorr
-desert rat
-SC8

head spinning!!
ive heard traxxas "beadlocks" are fake and the tires suck

Carraig042 12.03.2008 12:14 AM

Bleh.... Never mind

-Brett

mikey09120 12.22.2008 11:26 PM

another update:
im gonna use switch tires on epic beadlocks with an SC8 body.
due to the economy i will only buy one pair of lipos
2x zippy 3s 5000maH 20C-30C
with a hyperion duo charger.
i have a BLE e-revo on order and sold my stock e-revo to a friend

himalaya 12.23.2008 12:25 AM

I would suggest a Futaba servo, say BLS351, because it's a direct fit to the servo horn comes with the stock E-Revo. The TRX horns are nicely designed having double(upper and lower) arms to lock the ball in middle. Other servos may require changing the horn which is a pitty.

mikey09120 12.23.2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 244344)
I would suggest a Futaba servo, say BLS351, because it's a direct fit to the servo horn comes with the stock E-Revo. The TRX horns are nicely designed having double(upper and lower) arms to lock the ball in middle. Other servos may require changing the horn which is a pitty.

what is the torque, speed, and color of the servo? price?


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