Lehner LMT motors (2230, 1940)
 

I was wondering what cell counts the Lehner 2230 and 1940 should be used at? I've also seen that there are 5 wires coming from the motors... does this mean that it is a 5 phase motor? What speed controls can be used with these motors and how do you wire them? Hoe much power increase compared to an Feigao XL motor? Sorry for all the questions,but the holidays are coming and I want to keep my options open :)

Where did you see the 5 wires? It are 2 pole motors.

They come in all different KV ratings and are very good to use in electrick trucks.

What do you expect from your setup? runtime/speed or what?

Those motors are better than the xl's, they have got segmented magnets and are build with tighter tollerances, they can run more efficient as well.it simple is a highend BL motor.

I was wondering how does the lehner basic xl5000 compare to the wanderer/feigao xl motors? and what controler would you need?

I would like to get one of those LMT motors but they are out of my price range at the moment.

I think that they are 6 wires coming from the motors, and this is so that the current is spread over dual wires per phase.

Also, they're used to increase torque and in case you want to use hi voltage, but such feature is not found in the Hi-amp versions.

Ah! the BIG lehner indeed have got 6 wires.. (30 series) XL5000 on a maxx is too hot..

How would one wire the motor to a controller then? just 2 corresponding wires to one ESC wire?

Well, I dont think the 30series is any good for our trucks. Its just like putting a Diabolo engine inside a Toyota Corolla. This is what I think and I'm not ready to repair my transmission every single run.

I'm not talking about the 30 series.. yet :p just the 19 and 22 series :) So how many cells, how much more power, and how much bigger is a 1940 compared to say.. a 7-10XL?

i think the lehner is a little shorter and big around, just a little though.

Feigao/Wanderer:

XL: 74mm long, 36mm diameter, 370g
L: 60mm long, 36mm diameter, 278g

(all winds have identical dimensions)

Lehner:

1930: 56mm long, 36mm dia, 230g
1940: 66mm long, 36mm dia, 290g
1950: 76mm long, 36mm dia, 360g

so the 1950 is the one you need! :p

I use the Lehner 1940/8 as the Hi-Amp version in my "rebuilded EMAXX".

Only 3 wires to connect.

greetings, harald-hans

I just got my 2230 and it looks to have only 3 wires to connect - running 18 cells :)

Could you let us know how that motor does. I am very curious on these.

sure will ;) won't be for a week or 2 tho - i actually wasn't expecting it all to arrive so soon, so i'm fairly unprepared -lol-

Does anyone know what the mounting holes are on the 1950? Seeing the diameter is the same as the XL's, they should have the same mounting holes..?

Yeah, 540 sized. the shaft on that motor is 4mm though.

Ok, thanks. Looks like i might get one after christmas, and transplant the 10XL into something else.. like *cough* a buggy *cough* :L:

4mm is correct for 1930 and 1940 motors. The 1950 has a 5mm shaft.

I thought the whole line up of the 19 series was a 4mm. You could get 1/8inch shaft for 1930 40. Hey how does that 10 xl do? Get some decent run time.

What will be the run time whit 2240/8hi-amp on 20 cells
And what is better on the hi-AMP version.

The lehner motors are beter than the XL right.

So if i wand max 20 cells which lehner would be the best choice?

it is not that the high amp is better, it has got a lower internal resistance, higher KV.. i don't recommend the highamp, i thought we allready talked about this?

wat lehner motors are better than what XL?

my choice would be the wanderer 9XL

Yeah that's right we already talkt about it.
But mike said that the lehner whit the same spec's as a (XL9)
will be the beter motor.

So you already tolt me that the 9XL is the best option on 20 cells
But if i want to go whit a lehner on 20 cells,
wich motor is than the beter option,

The 9XL i am talking about is a lehner/wanderer as well. It is the wanderer. Mike hasn't got a feigao 9XL, so it would be a wanderer any way.

The 9XL is the better option. on 16,18 and 20 cells.

a 1940/10 would be about the same in kv.

So what you are saying is that the wanderer is the same quality,
as the lehner.
And so the beter option for my savage.

I'am ask this because i wand to go on and order my sertup.
And you now once orderd i can't go back.

No, i am not saying that the wanderer is the same quality? what made you think that?

The wanderer has got better bearings, and plugs soldered on allready..

The reason I thougt that you ment that, was your following comment in a previous post:

"The 9XL I am talking about is a lehner/wanderer as well. It is the wanderer. Mike hasn't got a feigao 9XL, so it would be a wanderer any way"

So you're saying that I would be better of , for both speed and runtime, with a Wanderer 9XL.

yeah.

that's the one you want!

give you a nice runtime too

I think rene and mack are talking about two different things. The wander motor is better than the feigao for the better bearing but are pretty much identical. The lehner motors like the 19 series is closer to the feigao line up. a 1940 or 1950 series would be closer to the specs of the xl motors. If i understand the question right.

No we do understand each other!!
I already had been talking to rene on email.
And he said to me the best motor on 20 cells,
will be the wander 9XL.

But i was wondering if a lehner would be the beter option
And if so wich one would be beter on max 20 cells
whit boht speed and run time?

(I just can make up my mind its driving me grazy
:C: :C: :C:)
And probably my friend rené to;)

the lehner 19 series 50 will have more power than the 9xl wander. If you got the money to spend and want the best. the lehner 1950 is in my opinion a better motor. but the motor is $225 more than the 9xl.

You mean 1950/10???
And what will be the top speed, and what wil be the run time?Would a 2250 be beter than the 1950?

So i ask again which motor will be the best choice on max 20 cells
I'am looking for boht speed and run time.

I thought the quoted kv is for both versions ,but the non high amp can be run in another configuration for lower kv.
When i ordered my 1950 i ordered the hi-amp.Was this bad?

the 9xl is a great motor
I just think the lehner is a better motor
It is like 3 times the money.
1950 10 turn should be a good motor. But i don't know what you are trying to do
I think the hi amp starts at different places
I will research some for you.

Coolhand you got a 9XL right what is the top speed on 20 cells.
And how long can you run it.

I'd say in a 10lb truck a 9XL on 20 cells would give 25minutes of runtime on gp3700's and maybe 40-45mph if geared correctly.

can't i go faster on 20 cells (whit a other motor and if so what will be the run time than??)

18cells is 25 - 30 min with gp 3700. I can not run on 20 cells for lack of esc.

You could use an 8XL with 20 cells, but it wouldn't be much faster, and the runtime wouldn;t be so good. 40-45mph is pretty fast IMO..