Brushless Controller
 

Is this anny good Castle Creations Phoenix-110 High Voltage ESC Brushless controller.

http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...nixhv-110.html

For a car controller?

I emailed Castle, and their advise was not to use it in a truck...

I don't understand why though, a controller with a heatsink, what can go wrong..? I just called them, got their answering machine..

what is liked to know is if this controller is able to work in a savage with a mechanical brake.. (forgot to ask them than in the email)

The only thing is that it has no reverse!!

WHO CARES!!!??? In the land you're living you don't need it to go reverse.. ;)

Maby that is why they don't recommend it?

I will find out..

You can put 36 cells or 12 lipo's on it
And a continuous 110amps not bad for that price
it looks cool to.:cool:

If you race. You don't supposed to use reverse. If in a savage with the reverse servo you still have reverse.

Airplane controllers shouldn't be used since they aren't made to handle the high peaks that a car will experience.

hahaha - dont scare me like that!!! Just got the 160/24 for the LST! -lol-

It is in the behaviour of the FET or transistor to handle peaks. Normally airplane controller are not suitable, because they don't use a heatsink.

*gets down on knees and starts praying*

Where can i get a heatsink to fit my 160/24 and how do i attatch it?? -lol-

Since Mr. Constructor was the one that recommended that controller, it should be fine. It can take 160amps continuous, which is a LOT. It can take higher peaks. If you could get a fan running over it, it should be fine. You would have to cut the heatshrink and using thermal epoxy to get a heatsink on.

I emailed Castle a few months ago about this controller. I was told that the warranty would be void if it is used in a monster truck. They also said they have never tested it using a pistal grip radio.

One of the features listed is: I'm not sure if this feature is going to be helpful in a MT application.

If you do get one, let us know how it works out.

i say go ahead and do it! take teh risk since u bought it already. If it works, u got a awesome car controller! and then we can all follow in ur foosteps! if it dont! then u got a smoldering pile of plastic! Oviously, the positive would outweight the negative, since ur helping ALOT of peple.

I think i might look into that - you think the local PC repairs shop would be able to help me out here? I know it should be sweet with Mr C's approval - but never hurts to have 'extra insurance' hehehe
And just to be safe - better ask -lol- Should I attatch the heatsink to the bare bottom side of the controller? Leaving the sticker on top would be a good idea right? :)
(man, is it me, or is this thing huge?! -lol-)

http://www.ausrc.com/galleries/danhf...ST/BLST_15.jpg

I don't think a PC repair shop would want to mess with so many FETs! It's actually quite simple to put a heatsink on. The hardest part is figuring out which one would work best :L:.

It would be best to have 2 heatsinks and attach one to the top and one to the bottom. If you cut the heatshrink, you gotta take it off, and then you might as well have the label go with it.

That contoller is large! But, the Shulze 40.160 is about three times that size!

Yeah, that schulze is the size of spain... You can cover your entire truck with it..

My guess is, that when you use the HV-110 at about 35-40 volts, it will function without a problem. (if you use lets say a 500-750 rpm/V motor)

why no reverse in racing? i don't understand

Usually it is illegal.

Its ovious when u think about it. If u hit a wall, they dont want u to reverse cuz then, you might run into oncomming traffic! Cars behind u will slam into u while u reverse.

not so much ncazbn. there is also the fact that some wont have reverse and it gives some an unfair advantage. if you have reverse you wont have to wait for a turn marshal. if you dont you will.

-corey

so you watch until it's clear to back out right?
what am i missing here. is it that drivers can't back out properly for some unknown reason? it's not like they can't see what's behind them right?
how many licks does it take to get to the center of a brushless motor?

oh i see, thanks

true, but there are tonsof OTHEr unfair advantages in racing. FOr example, them wabash rims. Y dont they ban that? Its unfair taht some ahs regular, while otehrs have those cut ones! Well, if im racing and i had reverse, i woudltn care if i hit some1 else, cuz it'll slow them down, and gimme a headstart.

whats your point nacazb?the wabash is a certain offset made specifially for the revo which are designed to not make it an inch wider like the velocitys. and there is no advantage to them. they are well reenforced which adds greatly to the weight. please dont talk about things you dont know about. why dont you complain about something that really is unfair like the fact that bigblocks and smallblocks run in the same class now?

-corey

So you think that this would work well on lets say.. 10s Lipo (30.8 cells) and a 14XL? That's a much better price than getting the 36120 for $450..

with a 14 xl you don't need the 36120. I would get the 36 95 but it is not much cheaper.

Small blocks and big blocks are very different. Small blocks ahve HIGHER RPM, while big blocks have more torque. Their advantages cancel eachother out.

I'd get the 36120 just because it's not too mcuh more expensive, but it has more possiblities for upgrading in the future.

As for the HV-110, if I use a 14XL, the amp draw would be ~50 or less, and with a controller that can handle 110 amps, that would be able to handle any of the large spikes that would occur in a truck.. right? How fast would a setup like that be though?

it would be pretty quick. have great power and run time beyond your belief. The advantage the 3695 has is no rpm limit like the 36120. but you don't have to worry about that.

I don't now of anny of you are interestit but here is a site whit a very good price 179dollar for the hv-110


http://www.prop-shop.com

10s on 14XL would be awesome! Actually, it would probably be too awesome! So awesome that it would tear the truck apart!

E-Traxxer - you could experiment with this idea and tell us how it works :). I am sure we would all like to know how it would perform.

I'd like to try it out.. but you say that it would tear the truck apart! .. That isn't a good thing now, is it? :P Im going to make a slipper adaptor that will handle an E-Maxx steel spur for my savage, going to get the HB cups and stronger dogbones, and I already have 23mm hexes.. what is going to break on that?! This setup would be fairly cheap (except for the lipolies, of course) at $180 for the controller, and $90 for the motor, that's only $270! Christmas will be a good day, a good day indeed! :L:

I'm going to see if it is compatable with pistol grip radios first, because my plans will go down the drain if it isn't! :eek:

Pistol grip vs. stick was a concern of mine. I think that by adjust the endpoints and setting the trim it could be figured out (of course a computer radio is needed to do fine-tuning).

By "tear the truck apart" I mean that this system could very well be capable of doing just that. Pulling full throttle from a dead stop would make it do more than just wheelie!

I don't now if the hv-110 will handel the setup for a car.
I had emailt them at CC but they didn't respond so I don't now
the spec's look good so?

But I have a wheelie bar! :p I don't think it could tear any drivetrain component up after my fully redone drivetrain is done, there wont be a single peice of plastic in the drivetrain besides the HB cups, which are stronger and better than aluminum cups.

Mack- The specs ARE good, but it is only a plane controller. It has a possibility to handle a lower amp draw motor (such as the 14XL I'm going to use in my possible setup) on a higher voltage setup because the motor won't be pulling as many amps, so he controller will be able to cope with the smaller amp spikes.

So you can't put say 18 cells on the hv-110 whit 14XL
You have to co to 10s?

18 cells would be fine on 14XL with that controller, but it wouldn't be too fast because the motor has a low KV rating and needs mroe voltage to operate at maximum effieciency.

but whit the 14XL and 10s is this not a beter controller?
3670 / MicroCar

70 Ampere

4 bis 36 Zellen

28 Gramm (ohne KK - ohne Kabel)

70x30x8 mm

Vorwärts-Rückwärts-Bremse

mit RC-Car Software

Kühlkörper

2 Elkos
Die Angabe der max. Zellen beruht auf die Berechnung mit
1,2V/Zelle

It's 230euro lets say 200dollar