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SpEEdyBL 11.27.2005 04:54 PM

New bigger Feigao motor?
 
I was looking at feigao's site and I saw this:

http://www.feigao.com/sdp/85838/4/cp-102737.html

The motor on the far left looks like it would fit in an e-maxx since it has the same bolt pattern as the 540.

E-Traxxer 11.27.2005 05:40 PM

Hmm.. that looks like it is in similiar size to an 820 size powertool motor. I don't think you could fit that on the E-Maxx tranny without a larger motor plate, because the motor may hit the actual transmission.

edit: Looks like it's 580 sized?? This is what it says:
580 Ferrous Loss-free BL motor
FG-MBLF-580 Ö45X50

45mm x 50mm compared to 36mm x 60mm (Feigao 540 "L" motor) Interesting... Can anyone else find any more info? I'm not having any luck. :C:

Serum 11.27.2005 06:30 PM

It looks like a cheap metall can, no aluminum.It has got a 5mm shaft, and a 25mm mountinghole distance. and a build in fan.

The bigger diameter will increase the torque for sure! (if a bigger rotor is used)

nbcaznmaster 11.27.2005 06:43 PM

thats crazy big. seems like overkill. HOw mcuh will ti cost?

E-Traxxer 11.27.2005 06:49 PM

Where did you get that info Serum? A built in Fan, eh? Sounds pretty cool..

Serum 11.27.2005 07:04 PM

by looking at it.. ;)

E-Traxxer 11.27.2005 07:09 PM

How can you tell there's a fan, because there are those slots in the can? The metal could be a good material, just not polished an anodized..

Basketti 11.27.2005 11:17 PM

maybe its like a XXL. Hope it turns out to be really good! at a good price

MetalMan 11.28.2005 01:33 AM

That sure is one LARGE motor! Might be a good candidate for a 1/5 vehicle :eek:

E-Traxxer 11.28.2005 02:13 AM

I'd go with dual 3080's in a 1/5 vehicle over that any day! (if I had that much money to spend!) Imagine that though, DUAL 3080's...

Serum 11.28.2005 02:30 AM

yeah, very realistic as well...

JOHNNYMAXXIMA 11.28.2005 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by nbcaznmaster
thats crazy big. seems like overkill.
Come on now, you know theres no such thing......O.K, maybe it's just me.:D

E-Traxxer 11.28.2005 04:01 AM

Johnny, there is such a thing as overkill. That is 6 3080's runing on 20s lipoly in a 1 gram truck, even though that clearly impossible :P So I guess overkill is impossible!

mmdooley 11.28.2005 04:08 AM

I saw a bl motor on e-bay that was solid black with built in fan?? Sold for $5 bucks???

Basketti 11.28.2005 04:50 AM

wonder what kind of motor it was?

crazyjr 11.28.2005 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mmdooley
I saw a bl motor on e-bay that was solid black with built in fan?? Sold for $5 bucks???
Sounds like one of those feigao 380c motors, though i can't imagine one selling for that cheap.

mmdooley 11.28.2005 11:44 PM

Yes it did. It was a no reserve Auction. I had it on my watch list and when I saw what it sold for it made me sick. I think I deleted it, I think. I will check.

squeeforever 11.29.2005 12:23 AM

i saw the same one. i think it was our very own lipomaxx. i think there was a 6 and a 7 turn for sale.

-corey

captain harlock 11.29.2005 04:01 PM

I think the design of that big Feigao motor is identical to the ones made by Kontronik and they are known as the Tango. Check them out here: www.kontronikusa.com/motors/tango.html
Good for drilling if you ask me.

E-Traxxer 11.29.2005 04:37 PM

Those could be good in a high-voltage setup. They may have similiar performance to a 22 series motor..

Serum 11.29.2005 04:49 PM

Nice find captain Sharlock.. i thought i knew these motors. i like the fan.. (yeah, it's a fan for sure.. )

E-Traxxer 11.29.2005 05:02 PM

Anyone think they would be better than a 14XL on 10s?

Serum 11.29.2005 05:26 PM

impossible to say.

A 14XL allready is very efficient at these high voltage..

SpEEdyBL 11.29.2005 06:49 PM

I saw lipomaxx's 6 and 7 turn 380c motors and I'm sure they didn't sell for $5. They were at $45 each with 7 hours left.

captain harlock 11.30.2005 10:08 AM

If only Mike can carry the Kontronik line of FUN motors, then you people would get the same (if not better) performance as the 19 and 22 series motors at lower prices. These are top notch powerplants and very affordable as well.

Serum 11.30.2005 06:48 PM

Why better? would the efficiency be better? or the torque? the lehner motors have got segmented magnets, i dare to say that those motors don't have that.

captain harlock 12.01.2005 05:27 AM

Go to towerhobbies.com and type kontronik in the search engine, choose a FUN series motor and READ the specifications: it says the magnet is a nickle plated and segmented powerdym. Probably if the 19 series has an upper hand over the FUN series, it would be the ability to change wind configuration. The price of the FUN-600( equavilent to the 1940-1950) is only 149.99 while the smallest of the 19 series is sold for at least 200 dollars. Now this is a real deal. Dont ya think so?

Basketti 12.01.2005 06:54 AM

It says "tolerance to high operating temperatures 150°C - 302°F
"
Thats hot!

captain harlock 12.01.2005 07:55 AM

Thats the internal heat, however, with a temp reader your external heat of the motor should be 100 deg.C if the internal heat is 150.

Serum 12.01.2005 01:14 PM

Harlock!

first;

sorry for my misbehavior. I didn't treat you like i should. that motor REALLY is cool!!!! and for an unbeatable price as well. You got me enthusiastic for sure..! They do put that segmented part at all the motors of kontronic though.. :M:

captain harlock 12.01.2005 04:59 PM

No need to appologize, buddy. In the end we are friends. Are we not?

Serum 12.01.2005 05:21 PM

Yeah, we are.. no doubt.. :p

crazyjr 12.01.2005 09:42 PM

Hey Captian Harlock. Will the fun 480 motors fit in and run good in a 1/10 tc or st? And how about the twist motors, are they good for the cars and trucks?

E-Traxxer 12.01.2005 10:33 PM

I looked at the Tango motors on towerhobbies and I'm starting to like the specs of them! High operating temperatures, segmented magnets, stainless steel cans, built in fan, and much cheaper than a 22 series (in my mind that is what I compare it to), the torque has to be great, because of the large diameter. The shaft is 5mm and is hardened steel too, which is a nice feature! They claim that the efficiency is 89%, which is really good. I may be looking into these in the near future. :Love:

EDIT: Look like it's only rated to 25,000 RPM! The 640 KV version on 37 volts (10s) would give 23,600 RPMs, but I don't know if that could still give good speed? I'm sure you could gear it really high with all the torque and low amp draws..?

MetalMan 12.01.2005 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crazyjr
Hey Captian Harlock. Will the fun 480 motors fit in and run good in a 1/10 tc or st? And how about the twist motors, are they good for the cars and trucks?
The Twist motors are excellent car motors. I have even heard of a Twist 42 (400 size rotor) pushing a lightweight E-Maxx pretty well.

captain harlock 12.02.2005 07:52 AM

I have the Fun-480-42 motor and you can compare it to the lehner basic 4200 plus its smaller, segmented, nickle plated and lighter, but the problem is that you need to use a 450 size plate inorder to fit it in a 1/10 scale rig. Its also the same as the Twist- series( I also have the Twist-55 in my TB-Evo4MS and it can take down any touring car equipped with a decent brushed setup) the Twists are specifically made for 1/10 scale cars and they have an upper hand over the Hacker C40 in terms of torque and effeciency( a Hacker c40 is 500-600 watts rated and the Twists are 600-750 watts rated) . If you are planning to buy one of kontronik's motors, I strongly recommend the twists for touring cars and the Fun-500 and 600 for monster trucks.

E-Traxxer 12.02.2005 08:27 AM

What about the larger Tango motors? They look like they're a powerhouse!

crazyjr 12.02.2005 09:08 AM

Thank you Captian. Would you consider putting the twist in a stadium truck like a t4? also what controler do you recomend?

captain harlock 12.02.2005 02:02 PM

Tango are not needed and the twist-42 is the way to go for off road.

E-Traxxer 12.02.2005 04:04 PM

The only motors which can handle 37 volts (what I'm running on)are the ones in the Tango line. Could the Tangos be similiar to a 22 series lehner motor in performance?


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