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Takedown 12.15.2008 12:53 PM

LST2 Conversion "Budget & Powerful"
 
Well guys I decided to abort the lst2 4-stroke conversion because of clutch mounting issues and decided to go brushless instead. My setup will be the following...

ESC- BidProducts 125-150a 7s
Motor- KB45 8xl
Battery- Four 3s 2800mah 30c packs "Two 2800mah packs in parallel which makes a 5600mah 3s 30c which will be paired in series with another Two 2800mah 30c packs wired in parallel to make a 5600mah 3s 30c to make a 5600mah 30c 6s pack." Hope you guys could understand that.:lol:

Ill see if I can get some new pics up once I get home.:yes:

Takedown 12.15.2008 12:57 PM

Heres the mount Ben mocked up for me. Looks great!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/n...motormount.jpg

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 01:05 PM

ygpm.

Mount is made for as a universal mount for the kb45 or equivelant motor with a 6mm shaft and 30mm hole spacing w/4mm screws yadda yadda, blah blah you get the point. if anyone needs one PM me

Byte 12.15.2008 01:11 PM

Nice conversion, I'm also doing a LST conversion atm..
Good luck with it!


oh, just one question; do you know with what programm that motor mount is made?

Thanks,

Patrick

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte (Post 242182)
Nice conversion, I'm also doing a LST conversion atm..
Good luck with it!


oh, just one question; do you know with what programm that motor mount is made?

Thanks,

Patrick

i used prodesktop and solidworks for setting the material and all the visuall stuff

Byte 12.15.2008 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 242184)
i used prodesktop and solidworks for setting the material and all the visuall stuff

Ok thanks, I will download solidworks, and will try to make a motor mount or something! :lol:


Thank you!

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte (Post 242186)
Ok thanks, I will download solidworks, and will try to make a motor mount or something! :lol:


Thank you!

do you need something designed?
pm me what you need i might be able to whip something up for you:mdr:

_paralyzed_ 12.15.2008 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byte (Post 242182)
Nice conversion, I'm also doing a LST conversion atm..
Good luck with it!


oh, just one question; do you know with what programm that motor mount is made?






Thanks,

Patrick





acronyms are funny, in my world atm means something different entirely.....


Quote:

I decided to abort the lst2 4-stroke conversion
i'm pro life, and it's a sad day when any conversion is aborted. The heartbeat begins as soon as you receive your truck in the mail and the box is opened. sinner.

jayjay283 12.15.2008 02:02 PM

you get that mount made I want one also. Willing to throw Mike sales and service fee, Just really need an LST2 mount... anyone lol


that sounded bad... I mean I know Mikes busy and im a lamo and I wouldnt burden him with making me a special project as he has done so nicely for many. Im not feeling selfish this time of year (come spring though) LOL so If someone happens to make one I would love to contribute as its sitting in my 7 degree freezing garage just expanding and contracting

_paralyzed_ 12.15.2008 02:10 PM

got a link to the bidproduct esc? I don't know about that one.

lincpimp 12.15.2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 242172)
Well guys I decided to abort the lst2 4-stroke conversion because of clutch mounting issues and decided to go brushless instead. My setup will be the following...

ESC- BidProducts 125-150a 7s
Motor- KB45 8xl
Battery- Four 3s 2800mah 30c packs "Two 2800mah packs in parallel which makes a 5600mah 3s 30c which will be paired in series with another Two 2800mah 30c packs wired in parallel to make a 5600mah 3s 30c to make a 5600mah 30c 6s pack." Hope you guys could understand that.:lol:

Ill see if I can get some new pics up once I get home.:yes:

Hmm, pity about the 4 stroke, but the BL setup will be better. Personally I would pring for a MMM, do the FOC conversion in the tranny, run a single speed hub from TDR and use mech brakes. That will delete the servos in front of te tranny and make room for a battery tray. I run fp 4500 30c 6s lipos in mine, and with the 10xl hacker c50 it has plenty of power. I have a TRD motor mount coming, and will throw the 1521 1y neu on there!!! Should have it all together by the weekend.

If you have lst questions I have a few and my buddies have nitro ones. We have gone thru them and they are great trucks. Very sturdy drivetrain, especially with the foc tranny mod and the al case diffs. I splurged and put the TiN coated ring and pinion sets in my lst, not really necessary, but I had the parts hanging around. Plus there are a few options for the diff cups, std are all pastic, the heavy duty 8t plastic cups with steel inserts look to be a good way to add strength and not add much weight. And you can go with full al cups too. Great truck, and with the lst2/muggy arms, hubs and cvds it is at least as stong as a truggy.

My next 6x6 will be lst based, just waiting on parts!

lincpimp 12.15.2008 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 242202)
you get that mount made I want one also. Willing to throw Mike sales and service fee, Just really need an LST2 mount... anyone lol


that sounded bad... I mean I know Mikes busy and im a lamo and I wouldnt burden him with making me a special project as he has done so nicely for many. Im not feeling selfish this time of year (come spring though) LOL so If someone happens to make one I would love to contribute as its sitting in my 7 degree freezing garage just expanding and contracting

Get the tdr one, I just ordered one and should have it by the end of the week. I can get you some pics and personal opinion of it if you like....

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 242202)
you get that mount made I want one also. Willing to throw Mike sales and service fee, Just really need an LST2 mount... anyone lol


that sounded bad... I mean I know Mikes busy and im a lamo and I wouldnt burden him with making me a special project as he has done so nicely for many. Im not feeling selfish this time of year (come spring though) LOL so If someone happens to make one I would love to contribute as its sitting in my 7 degree freezing garage just expanding and contracting

What hole spacing do you need i could whip something up :)

jayjay283 12.15.2008 02:45 PM

Standard Neu 1515

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 03:14 PM

Thats easy. ill whip something up when i get home :)

_paralyzed_ 12.15.2008 04:53 PM

link to the esc?

jayjay283 12.15.2008 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 242224)
Thats easy. ill whip something up when i get home :)

Ill owe you big man. Ill help make your xmas

Takedown 12.15.2008 06:28 PM

Here ya go paralyzed- http://www.bidproduct.com/part/Produ...20ESC_117.html

Metallover 12.15.2008 06:46 PM

That looks a lot like a suppo. http://www.suppomodel.com/
Also availible here - http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=7341

I have never seen a 125a before....:neutral:

btw do you have the truck yet?

Takedown 12.15.2008 07:24 PM

Their pretty much identicle. I will be buying the bidproducts 125a esc though seeing that its only $6 shipping. You cant beat that... And yes metallover Ive had the truck since last thursday.:lol:

Takedown 12.15.2008 07:39 PM

Im also going to get ahold of the Proline 2009 Dodge Ram body. Dodge kicks ass!:yes:

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 242239)
Ill owe you big man. Ill help make your xmas

i hope you know that i only do cad work, i dont have a mill or router.. you would need to contact mike with the design or a machinst to punch it out for you:oops:

jayjay283 12.15.2008 07:59 PM

well a pretty 3d pic would be nice but without dimensions im still screwed

Metallover 12.15.2008 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 242276)
Their pretty much identicle. I will be buying the bidproducts 125a esc though seeing that its only $6 shipping. You cant beat that... And yes metallover Ive had the truck since last thursday.:lol:

You got some pics of the truck? We need pictures.:rules::lol:

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 241256)

its in his other thread

JAILBIRD 12.15.2008 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jayjay283 (Post 242284)
well a pretty 3d pic would be nice but without dimensions im still screwed


If it's a fully dimentioned print I can mill one out for you. I don't have an LST to test fitment on so all the measurements have to be there. LMK if you can get prints.

-JB

jayjay283 12.15.2008 08:40 PM

I dont have a print, Wish I did. Maybe Ben can cough one up ? I have an 88% built lst2 and some calipers if you need nitro mount points, but i dont exactly know where the brushess mount should be in respect to height and outward mesh,, Kinda hoping thats what you all had in mind lol

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 08:47 PM

I can make a drawing.. i think, can you just take a cad file or STL?

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 09:14 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here you go.:intello:

Takedown 12.15.2008 10:20 PM

Nice ben! Ok guys here are some pics of the truck next to "pedebeaters" muggy...


http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/Muggy008.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/Muggy007.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/Muggy006.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/Muggy005.jpg

http://i270.photobucket.com/albums/j...r/Muggy004.jpg

brushlessboy16 12.15.2008 10:45 PM

Looks good, your going to have a fun time finding homes for your lipos.
besides that looks good, aluminum diff cases are a plus

Takedown 12.15.2008 10:48 PM

I hopefully have enough room on the rear end of the chassis to bundle all the lipos togheter into one battery cluster.:whistle:

lincpimp 12.15.2008 11:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Takedown (Post 242345)
I hopefully have enough room on the rear end of the chassis to bundle all the lipos togheter into one battery cluster.:whistle:

Gonna be rear end heavy. Better to put them between the tranny and the radio box.

drkdgglr 12.16.2008 08:39 AM

Has anyone tried putting a centre diff in the LST2?

I am going to try, just don't have the parts yet (they're in the mail). As the Muggy and LST2 share so many parts, I'm going to try if the LST2 tranny can be replaced by the Muggy centre diff. The wheelbase of both cars are almost identical, only 5mm difference, so I thought it should be possible....

brushlessboy16 12.16.2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drkdgglr (Post 242399)
Has anyone tried putting a centre diff in the LST2?

I am going to try, just don't have the parts yet (they're in the mail). As the Muggy and LST2 share so many parts, I'm going to try if the LST2 tranny can be replaced by the Muggy centre diff. The wheelbase of both cars are almost identical, only 5mm difference, so I thought it should be possible....

why not just buy a muggy?:neutral:

drkdgglr 12.16.2008 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 242400)
why not just buy a muggy?:neutral:

already have one.... and just wanted to try this out. If it does work, it's a cheap LST2 conversion (about $20 for a muggy centre diff and $45 for a motor mount)

brushlessboy16 12.16.2008 09:31 AM

Ah. Just need plate o mount the diff on

drkdgglr 12.16.2008 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brushlessboy16 (Post 242405)
Ah. Just need plate o mount the diff on

that would be the lower centre plate

Arct1k 12.16.2008 10:29 AM

5600mah 2s2p is what you are making...

_paralyzed_ 12.16.2008 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 242410)
5600mah 2s2p is what you are making...

actually it's 2x 5600mah 3s2p packs he's making..........


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