Need some setup help guys, G2R
 

I am planning to rebuild my G2R, it has had a rough life and now i plan to race it seriously. I know it needs 4 new drive shafts (one broke) and possibly a new pair of X-braces. My current setup is a Neu 1515/2.5d/f with a quark 125 and either 4 or 5s lipo's, I was never good at suspension setups but want a good solid racer. the current setup is Emaxx tranny w/gorilla half conversion, Strobe w/51 mod-1 gear and 20 pinion, RC-Monster V1 1/8 buggy diffs (I think 20,000 front and 10,000 rear) the suspension has P1 rockers w/lt springs and 70wt oil.

I just need a opening setup to work with, here are what i plan to add to it. The platnium series variable pistons and possible upgrade to v.3 Rc Monster 1/8 buggy diffs. I also am thinking of doing the New Emaxx tranny or E-revo tranny, I really want a center diff, but don't think mike is going to follow through on the slipperential. I like the Losi wheels and tires off the truggy, so i'm going to run them. Any help on setups will be greatly appriciated

Start with P2 rockers and 50wt oil all around. Use orange and gold shock springs. 10 and 20K are too thick for 1/8 scale diffs. I use 3k(rear) and 5K(front).

thanks George, There isn't any problems with the steering with that setup. I just want more aggressive

No problems with steering at all. Then again, I'm also using a Hitec 5955TG servo for steering. You can raise the front diff oil to 7K if you want to. Use them as your baseline and go from there.

Yeah, Imo too 20,000 front and 10,000 rear is too stiff setup. Im using in my g2r Front 7k & Rear 5k. It handles very well now, but other hand im not a racer.

Don't forget the swaybars too, increase the handling quite. But I think you already knew it :tongue:

Don't forget pics :smile:

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i.../274972665.jpg


:lol::lol:

Speaking of swaybars, I like the Tekno better than the traxxas swaybars.

+1 to that. On other hand I don't have experience on traxxas ones, hehe. Heard something that traxxas rear sway needs some minor modding to get working properly.

Ok here you go, these were the last pics i got of my truck. as i had said, she's seen better days.
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I was meaning i had no problems with steering, with the thick fluid. I am currently running a cirrus 70 servo (about 250in.oz at 6v)

swaybars are in the equation, I forgot to add them. I like the techno as well

Please mine has seen better days too but with a little hard work it all works out the same..


http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/i...IMG_4017-1.jpg

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P.S.:whistle:
Yes :yes: defiantly go with the Techno sway bars.. (Front and rear)..

Only on the Nitro Revo.

Ok. feistyacorn had some issues with the trx rear sways in g3r. Dunno then.. But it was just matter of couple washers :mdr:
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...8&postcount=24

Ya, I did have a little issue with them hitting the top rear plate. Its not to hard to fix. I havent tried the tekno ones so I cant speak for them, but I do like the traxxas ones.

Good luck on the rebuild crazyjr, I cant wait to see the progress.

Well I'm at an impasse, I want a center diff (be it revo/1/8 buggy whatever) it seems my only option is the E-revo/maxx tranny. I don't have the tools to make my own adapter plates for the conversion (lost a lot from thieves when i moved, including my dremels), so i might have to go E-revo chassis on this. I really hate to have to do it, I've had a G2R literally since the beginning of my electric re-conversion (from the beginning of the G2R as well). I wish someone still did an adapter for this, I know fastlane did, but try to find one now. Anywho, I'm still working on getting the money up to do this and will keep you up to date on progress, thanks for the advise

Since I've been outa the loop, I've obviously missed some stuff, but what are you referring to with the adapters? Link or something to what your talking about?

Also, I think I would go with a Revo tranny, center diff, mechanical brakes, RCM motor mount, and Tekno battery tray. Thats pretty much EXACTLY what I have currently. I don't think handling could get any better with a tranny.

As for the setup, definately get P2 rockers, something like 50wt oil, GTR shocks (you can buy all 4 off Ebay from a E-Revo or something for like $30 and you'll have the GTR shock bodies, coated shock shafts, and the better pistons), and I would get the aluminum pushrods and turnbuckles, Tekno sway bars, and probably the Tekno 8mm axle/knuckle kit.

The traxxas ones are not worth it. The tekno ones are much better and easier to setup. Not that either one is complicated. Before you go and spend the money try changing the top A arm pins to lower the roll center. I liked that more than adding the sway bars. I bash and my setup is as follows. 50K in the center, yes my G3R has a center diff. 30K in the front and 4K in the rear. I like a truck with decent rebound on the shocks so i opted for a thinner oil and some stiffer springs, I also run the P3 rockers and have the ride height as low as i can. It handles superbly!!!! Well to my liking any way. But my truck is very light. It only just tips 4.5kg with the 6s setup. I was running a 1515 1Y but now i am thinking a 1521, the 1527 1D is very very heavy(around 750g) Just my two cents

Squee, nice to see you on again. What i want to do, is rebuild the G2R for racing in Rc Pro. I was hoping that Mike was still going to do the slipperential V.2 transmission for the gorilla based revos, but it seems that everyone wants a center diff only. My problem is that RC Pro only recognizes transmissions for MT's, not center diff only. Its looking like my only option is the Emaxx/revo tranny, a couple guys have already made a 1/8 diff setup for it. There were some adapter kits from fastlane, that would adapt the new maxx tranny to a fastlane chassis. But since they updated the chassis, they don't make them anymore. If i can't find a way to make the pieces i need, I'm stuck with the E-revo chassis. I love my G2R chassis, but right now, its looking like too much work for just a center diff

oh and Squee, this is my G2R not the 3.3

You need something like this:
http://rc-dc.ch/gallery/displayimage.php?album=9&pos=5
http://rc-dc.ch/gallery/albums/Conve..._jan08_007.jpg

:angel:

We surely do - Fingers are crossed that mike is building one to connect to the slipperential...

V1 looked nice too..

http://rc-dc.ch/gallery/albums/Conve...ount_1_003.jpg

You don't need that with the new slipperdiffs... the whole point of this early "slipperential" was to incorporate a (revo) slipper. You'd just need a simple mount to get the new slipperdiff into the gorilla chassis.

But I guess you know that. :oops:

I think Crazys point is that he needs a transmission, to follow some rules or whatever.


Edit: Yeah, something like V1 plus the new slipperdiff would do the trick. But not for CrazyJr I guess

The USA MT seems to generally say a transmission is required... I wonder if a locked center diff would count as a 1:1 transmission.

You could then swap between modes by swapping between a locked and unlocked centre diff...

FYI Cen lockers seem to work nicely...

Sorry for the offtopic... but arctik, how do you do that pic thing? I see you used a link to my gallery, but I could not make the pic appear in the post.

Rather paste the frame URL (which doesn't work) I inspected the actual properties of the picture within the frame and then used the direct picture link.

Hack the planet ;)

Yeah, hack the planet! And MS must fall!

Thanks, it worked!

That's exactly what i wanted, But i might not need it after all. I was going to quote the RC Pro rules, to show the transmission rules. But after reading them closer, there are no rules for transmissions. I Emailed Carlton Epps about it and expect an answer soon. Maybe Mike it on the verge of a buzzkill for nitro. Maybe this is the evolution jump-off point for MT's as we know them, could be intresting to see what happens

On a side note, I think there is still a market for the Transmission. This desisn would be an easy conversion for savages , MGT's and LST's, practically a bolt in, just need a place for batteries and esc

Yea, I understand your situation. I know its a G2R, but if you have to run a tranny, and want to run a center diff, I'd basically just convert a nitro Revo. You can have the tranny, center diff, mechanical brakes if you like, and so on. There many options to convert the nitro Revo. I just left mine with the 2 speed, RCM motor mount, center diff, mechanical brakes and I think I'm about to get a Vantage chassis to replace the stock 2.5. That should make for one killer handling truck.

Squee, why build a nitro conversion when i got the best racing chassis ever offered for the revo flashlights? I may have a solution, if you read post #27 i think they may have dropped the tranny rules for MT's I assume they still got to do the motor 1.5"from the table with bottomed out chassis. I got an Email to carlton epps about it and hope to hear something soon

Chassis aside, I don't know about you, but i prefer a center diff, and if you have to have a tranny, that doesn't leave you many options. I also prefer mechanical brakes as that allows you to adjust the brake bias f/r. Something I don't think could be done with the G2R. Mechanical brakes and a center diff leave the Revo chassis/tranny the only option. If you can get away without a tranny, then no doubt, I'd go with the slipperential and the Gorilla chassis, but then again, no mechanical brakes. For me and my driving style, the Revo chassis with the Revo tranny/center diff/mechanical brakes is the best if I'm gonna be racing it.

Also, did you ever consider dropping the single speed and sticking a center diff in the E tranny? I forgot who, but there where a couple people on here who designed one for it.

I was always more of a motor brake guy myself, I'm also more of a single speed guy as well. I know i could make a Nitro conversion out of a revo, I also could take a 3.3 Tmaxx tranny and put a center diff in it. Why adapt something When it was available and easier but not anymore? I loved the slipperential transmission, it was perfect, three gears (spur, top gear and diff) with a hot bodies 1/8 buggy diff at that. I had the V1 and had no troubles with it whatsoever, no leaks, no breakage and the slipper worked every time, when it was supposed to

That is the same center diff setup that I run in my G2R. (Thanks Daf :mdr: 2+ years later and I still love it) Allong with the Traxxas sway bars, and the 50wt shocks with orange and gold springs and the Mikes Truggy 1/8 diff setup. Diff oils are 7/15/3 and it handles better than some truggys ive seen. 1512/2.5d, 5s and a Quark. I dont race it that often anymore cuz I usually race the 1/8 buggy and truggy now and there isnt much of a MT class around here any more. I did race it a couple times last summer and the last time I took it out I destroyed the rest of the field by like 5+ laps in the main. My qualifing times would have put me in the truggy A-main. :whistle: I haven't bothered racing it sice then cuz in all honesty it just isnt that fun if there is no competition. LOL That chassis with the center diff like that is just flat out not fair if you are racing traditional tranny driven MTs, but as far as a racing chassis goes, its flat out the best revo setup Ive seen.

I did notice that the transmision rule was dropped from the RCPro rules this year too and was considering bringing the beast out of retirement for a couple races this year. However, I did read somewhere that the rule omision was just an oversight error and that they would be putting it back in again. Let me know what they tell you in your email inquiry Crazy. I'm interested to hear the answer as well.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...z/CIMG1701.jpg

Nice truck Jhautz, I will post the Email when it comes, hopefully soon

No Email on the transmission rules yet, but i think i have a solution to running a center diff in a tranny. I found some fastlane machine tranny adapters for the FLM chassis in mikes shop, I have them coming and when money allows, I'll get the tranny and other things to make this conversion happen.

I have a question though, I know the tranny between the Emaxx (3095) and Erevo are the same, Which mount would you use, Emaxx or Erevo? I'm leaning towards the Emaxx because it looks to sit better for weight dist, but higher COG. the E-revo might be ok