Strongest brushless setup for revo?
 

Hi guys,

My friend want to get the strongest brushless setup you can fit on a e-revo,

no matter the cost.


I dont have the knowledge for brushless setup (i run nitro mostly) and if anyone can give me some nice suggestions of reliable and unrealistic powerful setup would be nice :)

Esc , motor, batteries, charger etc...

Thx for any input!

Mike

Well I'd say a MMM and a 1515 2.5DF on 6s - However you could get a 1521 in there if you tried although the diffs will last about 2 seconds versus 15 seconds with the Neu 1515 2.5D.

Save your money buy a MMM Combo ideally waiting a couple of months for the 1800 if you need it - 2200 is more than enough for an e-revo unless you want serious driveline upgrades.

MMM plus 2200 on 6S is all you and the truck can really handle.
hyperion duo charger
25C 5000mah 3s batts. the zippys actually are pretty good - you could also get the neupower batts but they are a lot more expensive.

I will repeat my question, thx for the info its appreciated but take into account i know what kind of power it can handle and that my friend want the most ridiculous power in the revo.

Is there anything stronger that fit into the e-revo?

Thx :)

Your choices are actually pretty wide open when you put it that way. Neu makes some serious motors for some seious play time. The 1521/1/y is a good choice as suggested, or maybe even the 1527/1/y. If money really is no problem and he wants to make something really impressive, then there is the Plettenberg Bolido motor wich has a nice reputation. For an equally impressive ESC you have to do your research to figure out which one would work best with the Motor you choose. And for batteries it all depends on what application you plan to run the vehicle under. For racing you would need something light weight but powerful like some 30C 4K to 5K packs, and if it is just for playing around then some 25C to 40C packes with 10K run times. This sounds like an interesting toy for sure, and we would love to see how that turns out for your friend, so please tell him to post up during and after his project. Good luck with that.

Oh and I almost forgot about the charger. That of course depends on which batteries he ends up acquiring, since you want to match up your battery packs with the best charging options for that application.

The guys on here are only trying to help, so the arrogant attitude of "but take into account i know what kind of power it can handle" means absolutely nothing when you've never had any brushless experience before.

Hey, if money were no object I'd build a longer chassis with 4 battery compartments so I could run 12s2p 5K Lipos and power both of my 1527/2d motors. But that's just me....

If you're just getting into brushless:

If you're just looking to beat the stock Nitro Revo:

If you're just looking to beat all the Nitro boys:

Then PLEASE, learn what the limitations are of the drivetrain that you're dealing with.

The stock E Revo drivetrain is pretty strong, BUT.........

If you're going for the most power you can stuff into a Revo, plan on throwing a bunch of money at upgrading the diffs and the rest of the driveline too.

Check out the RC Monster store for some of the toughest Revo diffs around. I have a set. They are Tough!

Properly setup brushless power delivers torque that Nitro can't deliver.

Even a mild brushless setup will leave the Nitro Revo in it's dust. :surprised:

A few suggestions:

1. Figure out what top speed you're looking for. This depends on what you're going to be doing with the truck.

A. Bashing - 40mph top speed is just fine for me. Best balance of wheelie popping torque and controllability

B. Racing - Top speed runs or track use? If track use is going to be the norm, let your decision be based on how long the track is, and how long the race is going to last. For top speed runs, the sky is the limit. I believe the fastest Monster Truck so far is pushing 80mph or so.

Best Bang for the buck? Get a Monster Combo from Castle Creations. Then get yourself some good Lipos. :yes:

Well if you have lots of money - Dual MMM with Dual 1527's would be about the ultimate - Let us know how it goes...

I would go with either a Neu 1521 or a 1527, depending on what your batteries can handle. This will provide absolutely insane power and will rack up quite a repair bill but it's powerful. A Neu 1521/1Y on 6s lipo will make a Truggy do a backflip with ease, but watch those amps.

if money is no object you could sink about 20k into a Turbine RC Jet that will exceed 200mph

http://tamjets.com/index.php

What i meant in that reply is that i understood it was to help me :)

But what you dont understand is that i have good knowledge of RC in general and im not 100% noob in brushless , i have seen a lot and driven(not owned) MMM v3 neu 1515d before on 6s.
(its not because i only have 3-4 post on this forum that you have to think i know nothing, but i still need your help for my question , my first language is french so may be i am a little too much direct with my approach... i try my best to write in english.


Im sorry if it was misunderstood on my part. But my question was simple, money is no object, my friend dont care if anything broke, he just want the most RIDICULOUS setup. i repeat, the most ridiculous setup.

This have nohing to do with me, im just trying to help my friend getting the setup he want. :)



Thx Arct1k for the info :)

Anything can run 10-12S on the revo? if batteries fit...

More info,

Its not for racing, he plan on doing few speed runs and mostly bashing but he confirm me he want something a lot stronger than a MMM 2200kv combo. Even if i agree its well enought lol

I run 10s w/a 1515/2y and CC HV 10 esc in a Revo and I do this mostly for effiency and a cooler running system, here in Az temps will exceed 100 degs for 6 months a year

Fair enough. I can appreciate your effort to type in English. I can only imagine how bad it would be if I were to try and type in French.

To answer your question, there are two primary limitations on what will fit in the E-Revo:

1) The battery trays will really only fit up to 3S 5000mAh per side, for a total of 6S 5000mAh. Or, a lower capacity and higher cell count would work also.

2) The motor must be around 3" or less in length or the can will hit the rear shock supports.

Given those limitations and assuming he doesn't want to completely hack up his stock chassis, the motor will have to be a 1515 or Medusa 80mm as a maximum.

Even though Neu 1521's and 1527's have been recommended, they simply will not fit without modification if he's using the single motor plate. My Castle Monster 2200kv just barely clears the rear shock supports.

Thx Skellyo, thats the kind of info i was looking for :)


Appreciated!

They'll fit, just gotta use the other mount :tongue: Certainly not practical and an 80mm Medusa is the best choice IMO, but there's always the option.

I have an 80mm Medusa and I'm fairly sure it'll fulfill the need for speed, very powerful motor.

also one thing to remember at speeds over 50 mph a MT starts to become unstable..a 1515 motor will get you that far.....

with my experience a 1515 2.5d on 6s is stupid, so I can only assume a 1515 1y on 6s is stupider! 1515 2.5d on 5s is still insane yet driveable! Does your friend want to actually use this truck or just break it? MMM combo on a good pair of 2s Lipo, tires to match the terrain your running on, and just run it! When something breaks then you upgrade that part! Everyone's driving style is different so everyone breaks different parts. No matter how much power you put in an E-REVO it's all a waste if you can't drive it! Wheelies get old fast in my opinion. So I suggest not going for the most insane setup but instead going for something that is actually driveable, even if money isn't an object! In the perfect world I'd have the MMM combo in mine and 3-4 sets of enerland based 2s Lipos for it!

Grammar check ON!

Sorry, just got home from the bar!

Me too, Cabo Wabo rocks!

Thx, i will try to convince him to not go bigger, but like i said his goal is to have ridiculous power that impress more.

Is the medusa 80mm stronger than a Neu 1515 or 1521?


If he get the Combo MMM castle 2200kv whaty are the best batteries to run that are
6S?

Sorry for those multiple question, i just want to be sure he get the best stuff. :)

can't wait to see what you accomplish with the electric's Over_revO :yes:

your nitro work is awesome! :rules:

Well, I'm doing the same for my e REVO & I am using :

1) Medusa 70mm 1600KV motor
2) 6S Rhino 20C 4900mah lipo
3) MMM
4) Tekno sway bars
5) 17mm hex conversion
6) single servo arm with ACE1015 as steering + stronger servo saver
7) Gearing 58/19 for top speed around 38mph

This setup is about the limit of controllability for me at a track. I can't even go for full throttle at the straight !

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...htleftleft.jpg

http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/a...trightleft.jpg

REgards,
Joe Ling

Ok, i convinced my friend to go more conservative on its build LOL


He accept to run a Neu 1515 or 1521 , but i will need your help guys.

Wich motor is better ? 1515 1.5d ,y , or 1521?? im lost with all those numbers lol

And if someone can suggest the best batteries to get with the setup you suggest,
the strongest batterie possible (6S)

Thx a lot for any help :)

Get a 1515 2.5DF 1650KV or go crazy with a 1Y 2200kv...

I have no idea wich one is better :D
I want the fastest of them, one that you could gear for top speed for some runs and then run it geared for about 50-55mph.

If i can have batteries suggestions also could be great :)

Thx again for any help.

you wont need the 1521, I had a Revo I had geared 38/18 with 6s lipo and a 1515/2.5d it it could run around 50 mph and it was on the verge of being out of control. You could run 6s with a 1515/1y it would be faster but you will have a higher amp draw which will produce more heat

If you do live in france, you got acess to the ehner motors. If you really want nasty (wicked) I could suggest the 2250/10t with an MGM or schultze and up to 8s lipo (Flightpower 4s 3200 or smaller mah, Suggest 20c+) Thats abour a wicked as you can go without going to a gorilla or kershaw chassis. Now that you have calmed him down a bit, I will also say that the Neu 1515/2.5d is a awsome motor on 5s

Im from canada :D

Ok, so the Neu 1515 /2.5d
This one is good even if its square can? they dont have the other one in stock
Thats the only place i know to order one from...

Any good 6S batteries to recommend?


Can the MMM/cc 2200kv be as good as a neu 1y?

Thx :)

Order the 1515/2.5D from here:
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...5_2.5dF&cat=20

For battery packs, go with 2 of these:
http://www.rc-monster.com/proddetail...pq3s6000mah25c

And yes, the Castle 2200kv combo in my opinion is as good as the Neu 1515/1Y

Thx Skellio :), is there any 8000mah? the battery you posted are the best you can get?

Sorry to answer the question again, i just want to be sure he dont regret the buy lol

So basicaly, what make the 2.5d better than the castle 2200kv is amp draw ?
that will make the 2200kv overheat more easily, but is the 2200kv quicker?

thx :)

You won't find a 3S 8000mAh pack that will fit in those battery trays. And actually, scratch those 6000mAh packs off the list too. They're a little too tall. The Polyquest/PolyRC 5000mAh 3S packs will fit though. They are not in stock here at RC-Monster, but they are available here:

PolyRC PQ-5000XP-3S
http://rclipos.com/PolyRC25C.htm

Oh ok, i see now :)

Thx a lot.

Mike

The main difference in the motors is that the 2.5 is a Delta wind as opposed to the 1y being a wye wind, the wye is supposed to be more efficient and lower kv compared to the delta wind for wind. In the motors you list here, the 2.5 is 1600kv where the 1y is 2200 kv. the 2200 by wind should be more efficient, but with motors this small, i don't think it really matters. Now if you want 6s setup, I'd go 2.5, lower kv and better heat control on the 6s level. Notice i didn't say truck control, on 6s there won't be too much, except for his finger

Over_revO,
Tell your "Money is no Obejective" friend to write and sign blank cheque to RC-Mike and send his revo along with the blank cheque to Mike.