Looking at a 1987 Toyota Supra Turbo
 

Just wanted your guys opinions on this car.:yes: A guy locally is selling one for $2100 and its in great shape. Has a little rust on the front left fender, starts fine and runs. Has an 8lb turbo installed stock.

Pic of the model... "Not the car Im looking at"

http://media.motortopia.com/files/34...c9e/supra1.jpg

they are nice cars. my buddy has one. but its a auto and non turbo. but he is converting it to manual and turbo soon.

2100 its a good price for it too.

I'm personally not a fan, but the 1JZ has some potential. Nothing like the 2JZ, but it can make 350hp if you build it right. If its an automatic, forget it. The auto trannies are terrible and can't hold the power.

If the head gasket has not been replaced, you will need to do so. The turbo supras blew head gaskets alot due to the wrong torque on the factory head bolts. I almost bought one of these cars and did a bunch of research before I did. Ended up with a different car, but the supras still seem nice.

I loved my 1991 Supra Turbo! Linc is dead-on about the head gaskets. If it hasn't blown yet, it will. Once you get that taken care of properly, then they can make all kinds of power (even on the 7MGTE). They're a great touring car for long trips.

It will probably get decent fuel economy with the turbo (if you keep off the throttle):lol:

How many miles does it have on it.

I am a lead foot. Even with my 00 Buick century custom.:lol:

Ok wtf is with the tags on this thread? Never mind. I edited it.

I don't see any tags...

Do you know how many miles the car has on it?

Tags said- "Lame Car" "Ryan Is a Post Whore". Someone cant stick up for themselves and say it outright to me.:rofl:

Probably Ian...:na:

Thats what I was thinking. Or ben...:diablo:

I was also planning to upgrade the turbo after I had bought the car. I am now aware of the header ordeal but hopefully that can be worked out. I found this 25-35psi turbo kit on ebay for $270 shipped which is definately within my budget range-http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts...1%7C240%3A1318

I am also insearch for an intercooler to help keep the engine cool with the added pressure/power and a blow out valve. I will be upgrading the air filter to K&N aswell for better flow.

That turbo will need an external waste gate. I wiould stick with the stock turbo for now, as the MAF needs to be upgraded before you can even reach the limits of the stock turbo. Join the Supra Owners Group and read all of their threads on the turbo mods. IIRC you can mod up a lexus MAF to work with the supra cheaply, and then just use a simple boost controller to up the bost to 14-15psi. No stock motor can handle 25psi, you would have to have a fully built bottom end, forged everything. I have a feeling that you will be suprised with the performance of the stock turbo supra, especially compared to a buick centry.

I would personally plan on not spending much money upgrading a car. I think I'm pushing it spending about 50 bucks for small upgrades on my truck. I might even hold off... When you start upgrading things it seems the car will start to lose some of it's reliability.

Also check out the www.suprastore.com for info and parts. Great cars, but you really need to understand what you are getting into. Chances are on the Supra, if it can be done, it has been done. Learn from others mistakes and experiences and by no means buy this thinking of a 2JZ conversion. It is way too cost prohibitive.

The century does haul with a 3.1l v6. It bounces way to much when I brake drop though since it fwd.

I absolutely love supras. Our family has had over 20 ranging from 84 (back when they were celica supras) to 98. I had a 94 tt in high school. They are great cars. Just like everyone else said the 7m motor is notorious head gasket failures. Once you address that issue they purr like a kitten.

Although it seems like something i would do, it wasnt me.

Ummmmm ... wow! I would never trust a high schooler with that much hp. :lol:

They are nice. I used to have a 92 with manual tranny which blew up the headgasket. Ask the seller if the HG had been replaced. If not, forget about it. If you can find a 94-98, get them. They are way better.

By the way, I was surprised to find out that the JDM supras(87-92) use 2 small turbos instead of a single big one like what's was sold for the US market. I bought a 92 here in Japan back in 2006 for $800(sailor was leaving for his next duty station) but had to sell it for a bigger car when my daughter was born in 2007. It can hang on with the Skylines (GTR only) and beat the crap of the Skyline GT-S.

I sure hope this is a step up from my century. :lol: I am sending the guy half the cash this weekend so he can hold it for me. I will be paying him the rest asap. I also told him to take out the stock turbo. He dropped the price $100 so its at exactly $2000 now. Im going to buy another 8-10lb turbo with wastegate, blow out valve, all the connections, new digital boost gauge, and all the hookups. Ill let you guys know how it goes. Oh and the car comes with some older worn tires. Im going get a video burning out and drifting in a parking lot to get rid of the old tires.:yes:


Is their any way possible to fix the blown header/gasket issue? If so how cheap will the fix be?

Replace it is the only option. Their are many options of what to replace it with from stock items after market parts. I would recommend looking into a head gasket meant to handle the boost you are wanting to push. Again www.suprastore.com will be a help.

Here is a nice selection of replacements.

http://www.suprastore.com/19tosumk3hea.html

Probably a good time to replace the timing belt as well while the head is off. Also remember that if you are going to upgrade the turbo you need to start looking into bigger fuel injectors and a higher capacity fuel pump. Possibly even a better oil pump and so forth. This can get expensive quick. Think RC times 100!!!

Oh my god that stuff is expensive.

If you do the research (which you won't) you will find the MAF will not handle much more airflow than it does stock.. All the boost in the world will not matter if you run it lean due to imroper fuel/air delivery. Keep the stock turbo for now, and do the other upgrades. SOGI (supra owners group international) is a good place for the DIY fixes and mods. A bigger turbo with more boost will require the fuel system to be upgraded... Plus you can get more boost from the stock turbo with a boost controller.

Don't listen to me though, I have certainly not owned 3 rx7s, 2 3000gt vr4s 1 stealt r/t, 1 lotus espri, and a handful of other turbo cars...

Thats why Im only doing a 8-10lb turbo like you stated I should do... Because the stock gaskets/header wont be able to handle anything more in stock form.

The stock head gasket cannot handle the stock turbo and stock boost. Start reading Jr...

Right...:lol: I will be upgrading the head gasket no matter what so hopefully it will work.

They also mention swapping the stock head bolts to arp studs and torqing the nuts to 72ft/lbs, IIRC. All the info is on SOGI...

Alright Ill be sure to take a look at that site once I get home. This turbo thing is new to me so.

Plenty of good info on SOGI. It is a forum and the guys are helpful. Turbos are fun, but can be expensive and delicate if not setup properly.

I dont want cold hard cash to go to waste.:whip:

Linc is 100% correct on all of this. I have done mounds of research here and there on cars from the supra to the RX7. Speed costs money, turbos provide speed, therefore turbos cost money. Best to take your time and do it right once, can't treat this like RC.

Im definately not going to. I plan to step out of r/c for awhile until I get the car up to par and then Ill think about coming back into the hobby.

Takedown, one thing to think about too is the MAF. Its been mentioned that the MAF cant handle much more than stock. You have to seriously research your turbos 8-10lbs of boost is the same for all turbos, thats true. However, flow characteristics is different. For example, the stock turbo may flow 30 cfm then you upgrade the turbo but stay at the same boost levels but now the new turbo is putting out 50cfm.

Just a random throw out here, I wouldn't buy the car for 2100 if It had much over 130,000 miles on it. If I were you I'd go the practical route and get a car with under 100,000 or even a car with 60-80k if you find a good deal.. It will haunt you for awhile if you get something with 150,000 miles and put thousands of dollars into it just to have an unreliable vehicle.

Wow...where did you hear that from? That only depends on the vehicle. I wouldnt touch a dodge with high miles unless its a diesel. Our family had numerous vehicles with over 200k on the clock and still purrs like a kitten. General maintenance is all that is needed. Especially with the Toyota and Honda car engines. If you really wanna be sure of your purchase check the motor condition...just do a compression check to make sure that all the compression is within 5% of each and that its not too low.

This mainly applies to GM products... If you can find one that runs with 150k miles on it!!!

It does really depend a lot on the car. My brother's Subaru has 270k on it and runs like new. My Mazda has 140k on it, runs like new. My dad's Ford has 220k on it, runs like new. My mom's GMC has 70k on it and the engine has a knock and it goes back to the dealer at least once a year :diablo:

I don't think $2100 is a bad price for a Supra, people go crazy over them so they hold their value very well. It's got a good powertrain, but I don't like the way they handle in stock form. If it runs and drives well right now go for it, drive it stock for now then upgrade it properly when you get the money.

One word "buicks". Can easily run over 200k if taken care of... 10k miles really isnt much at all if the car is taken care of. My friends car has 255k miles on it and it still peels out and is very reliable. Its a 98 buick lesabre.