Please make a small can (2650 size) 2000-2200 kv motor
 

Castle there are a lot of serious racers that would love a small can low kv motor 2200 and lower.
They will sell :yes:

+1

make one @2000kv... 2.5D or something close

:yes:

Or just buy a medusa or actual Neu. Or a lehner. Or a Hacker. Or a Plett....

I am thinking 1.5Y (1900kv) would be nice on 4s. Fast enough but usable power.

I allready own a Neu 1512/2.5d, but it would be so much easier to get more people into 1/8th electric if there was a plug and play combo that was directed toward the racer.

blah we need a 3300 kv castle! and gear it up lol

Yeah I am probably going to just use the 2200kv castle for my buggy. I wouldn't be able to gear the 2650 correctly.

The windings are all 1y. They are varying the length of the rotor to lower the kv. Smart, if you ask me!

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Why would anyone be against more kv choices?

btw, the 1512 1.5y is just fine on 4s... it's what I run and I keep up ok :na:

Tekin will have more choice in KV and probably the same performance

@ lincpimp, please read you PM on Rctech; Thanks :)

This is probably the third time I have said this, but a 1512 1.5Y would be nice. Better hurry up before the 1.5Y tekin motor gets the call, but I would much rather have a motor that matches my 2650 in appearance. The 1518 1Y will not be the same, as it will draw more current than a 1512 1.5Y not to mention that it will be quite a bit bigger and heavier.

Tekin is doing all the motors that Castle SHOULD have available :whistle:

Are they going to be priced competitively with the cc motors?

:surprised: since this is a castle thread I wasn't going to say that. I just went ahead and ordered their motor. :mdr:

Has there been any thought on a lower KV motor?

There is going to be some stiff competition with Tekin and I would like to still run my Castle equipment. There is a great need for a 2650 size can 1900kv motor!

Tekin Motor = $159 at a main

Problem with the Tekin motors is they look like the Losi motors only with a slightly different can. Losi motors are crap, I know from experience, two times.

The problem with having so many choices is that it will get confusing. The 2650 is good for a Buggy, the 2200 is good for Truggies, and the 1800 will be a sweet motor for those of us with heavier 1/8th scale RCs. IMO this is very easy to understand and make the right choice for motors.

Yeah, but most of us are exceptions and can count to higher than 3.

If B=Buggy, T=Truggy, X=Extreme. Why not just call them:

2650B
1900B
1400B

2200T
1700T
1100T

1800X
1400X

...All of which can be done with Y winds. How confusing is that?

It's not confusing to you because you've been into RC long enough to know the difference. Look at all the people dropping MM 7700 and 9000 motors into Stampedes, that alone is proof that not everyone knows better.

I suppose they could build the motors but not offer them in the combos, that could work...

Very true, but I don't think offering a lower kv motor in buggy size would worsen such matters. The "knowledgeable" people would buy the lower kv version, and the others would continue buying the 2650, which still isn't too demanding on 4s. The fact that people may try to put the 1518 and 1520 size motors in buggies, for less power or higher voltage and the same power would be worse.

1700kv in a 1515 can would def wind up on my shopping list!

Any word on the possible production of a 2000 or 1900 kv buggy size motor?

With the problems that Tekin is having I know they would sell. I would love a lower KV Castle motor.

Put me down for one.

My understanding was that CC was sticking with the 1y wind as that was found to be most efficient across the board. The they vary the can length for KV/Torque. This makes the most since to me. I really don't see the reason for 30 different motor choices. Each motor can be set to run in its respective range however it needs be. If the 2650 will be too much on 4s then run 3s. If the 2200 is too much on 6s run 5s or 4s.

Tekin is Tekin and CC is CC, they will both offer what is they think fits their market best.

You completely missed the point. I have never driven my car anywhere but the track. I need a motor that will run cool and last 15 to 20 min on 4s. I currently run a Neu 1512/2.5d but I really like the endbell and wire design of the Castle. I am limited in length as to what motor I can run. The 2200 is too long. The 2650 is a juice hog.
I just want a 1900 or 2000 kv castle motor.

Well, I think based on CC's feedback this won't happen.

I know specifically that Patrick said they were only going to do 1y windings and vary the can length to change KV values.

The thing I keep saying which I don't understand is why people don't do more with the programming to correct the things they do not like. When I got my MM originally I was literally amazed at how much I could change the drive profile and feel via software without changing gearing or anything else with the setup. I could see drastic differences in run time and performance based on what type of setup I used via software.

+1.
No doubt CC would offer wider KV selection for the custmers, like their 1/10 motors does, but I guess something between Patrick and Steve Neu might be limiting this product line.

I think Patrick said Y winds only not "1Y only," the reason being that the magnet would be optimized for the Y wind instead of a compromise of both Y and D like the neus. A 1.5Y 1512 sized motor would be 1900 kv just like the tekin T8 4030 1.5Y, so I can't see why that can't be done. That would be perfect on 6s bashing, and 4s/5s racing, better than a 1y on 4s and 3s. I already consistantly get the mmm fan on in less than 5 minutes with my driving. I'm guessing there is some sort of delay anyway since I haven't even heard of any updates of the 1800 and 1500 kv long can motors for quite some time. I would expect a low kv short can motor to be a ways off.

We are getting ready to offer an 1800Kv 1.5Y motor in the same can as the 2650 -- expect it late July.

Thanx!

SWEET! thanks again Castle.

I will have to have one.

That's exactly right -- the magnets are optimized for a Y wind. That's why we don't offer a D wind.

Patrick

Will the 1518-sized motor be available then as well?

I don't have exact dates on the longer motors -- they require new magnets which have a fairly long lead-time.

But I would assume late July time frame is fairly accurate.

OK, Thanks. I'm looking to get one of those to replace the motor in my Muggy.

:party::yipi::yipi::yipi::yipi::party:

finally, a Castle motor I can use to replace my 1512 1.5y

btw, Neu downgraded their rating on this motor from 1900 to 1850 a while back. I wonder how much different the CC motor will be?

Patrick, is it possible the 1800kv is under rated?

Haha, thats what I want to here! Sorry tekin!!!

If you could also do 4mm mounting holes right next to the 3mm ones, that would be great as well.

The Castle 1512/1.5Y is 1850Kv -- I just double checked.

Hmmm -- that's not a bad idea. I'll check into it.

Very nice, thanks Mr C!

3/4mm holes would be a smart move too...

I would also like to see 4mm mount holes, both in 25mm circle and 30mm circle. With the CC/Neu motors it would be as simple as offering different front plates that can be swapped out by the end user. I personally think that M3 thread bolts are a bit small to hold up the large brushless motors.