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BlackedOutREVO 03.08.2009 10:37 PM

Got to drive the RX8
 
Well I went over to Cap city to get some wheel time in with my new mod truck, and who shows up? Randy Pike! Duh:lol:

First thing I see if his BL MBX5 and I was like OOOOO BABY! RX8 RX8 RX8:mdr::party:

So after talking to him for a few mins and asking questions he said you guys can drive it (my buddy and Randy are good friends) and he said we will go out and run it in a few mins and you guys can drive! SWEET! He pops in a proto Tekin 4s lipo and away it goes.

HOLY FLIPPING CRAP! It was faster then hell! And the best part, SMOOOOTH! Anyone that trys to tell me there MMM is going to beat this is stupid, im sorry but there is no way in heck the MMM even compares FOR RACING. It was just amazing, driving that buggy was like a giant wheeler. Never cogged, was insanely smooth, never got over 3 LEDS, ONE time and literally we pulled the body off and then it shut right off. Fan comes on at 140. So it wasnt hot driving it on a smaller 10th scale track. Motor I swear got colder after running it lmao. It was just crazy. So anyone that cant wait or something you better. Randy said 2 weeks, he was testing the new case o the ESC, I guess they had problems with it and thats why the release was delayed. But it WILL be worth the wait, I personally promise! And im not even a Tekin driver!

Setup was,

RCPD conversion
Tekin proto 4s lipos
RX8, and there 1512 sized 1900 KV motor I believe he said
Mugen MBX5 buggy


Pics...

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/q...O/IMG_0242.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/q...O/IMG_0243.jpg

http://i453.photobucket.com/albums/q...O/IMG_0244.jpg

Any questions, LMK and I can try and answer. I WILL be getting one ASAP:mdr:

Enjoy:mdr::mdr:

whitrzac 03.08.2009 10:43 PM

WTF is up with the phillps screws??? I mean come on there soooo tamiya rtr looking...

lol


other than that it looks sexeh

BL_maxx 03.10.2009 03:11 AM

what are the LEDS for? measuring heat or amp draw?

gixxer 03.10.2009 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BL_maxx (Post 268550)
what are the LEDS for? measuring heat or amp draw?

measures the temp. there are 7 leds and the higher the led count the higher the temp.

rhylsadar 03.10.2009 05:12 AM

i am also looking forward to the tekin RX8 system.
however such an overeuphoric comment does not really help much. it only boosts expectations and therefore increases the chances to be dissapointed. we will see when it hopefully comes out soon.

bye
rhylsadar

Metallover 03.10.2009 08:26 AM

I want to let you know of a macro button on your camera. It is great for taking pictures less then 2 feet away. It makes the pictures not-blurry.

teamtekin 03.10.2009 01:40 PM

That was a pretty enthusiastic opinion, but that is about how everyone has responded. Grip and rip… it just works and you do not have to think about it.

The 7 leds do a lot more than just show temp when in neutral. They also allow you to adjust almost all the user features, display a lot of diagnostics and ramp up with throttle and brake so you can see the throttle levels relative to the radio trigger position. All Tekin speedos use the same super quick and easy, at your fingertips user interface. The Hotwire takes it to another level of adjustability to really dial it in for spec racing.

Tekin Prez

Arct1k 03.10.2009 02:01 PM

The leds do take all of the guess work out of using the TX - I loved them in my mini rage..

magman 03.10.2009 04:53 PM

Anyone know if they are releasing a larger motor for say truggies or MT

skellyo 03.10.2009 05:44 PM

They have a 71mm long motor targeted for buggies and a 76mm long motor targeted for truggies. More info on kv values for each: http://teamtekin.com/t8.html

A RC Dude 03.10.2009 08:30 PM

wow, nice!
and when you said RX8, i thought you meant the car, the Mazda RX-8 lol

teamtekin 03.10.2009 08:45 PM

4030 buggy motors similiar to a Neu/Castle 1512 in size and winds, but sensored/sensorless and has solder tabs

TT2350 4030 1/8 BL motor 2D 2650kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2351 4030 1/8 BL motor 2.5D 2050kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2352 4030 1/8 BL motor 1.5Y 1900kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2353 4030 1/8 BL motor 3D 1700kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2354 4030 1/8 BL motor 2Y 1400kv Sensored/Sensorless

4038 truggy / monster truck motors similiar to a Neu/Castle 1515 in size and winds, but sensored/sensorless and has solder tabs

TT2360 4038 1/8 BL motor 1Y 2250kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2361 4038 1/8 BL motor 2D 2000kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2362 4038 1/8 BL motor 2.5D 1700kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2363 4038 1/8 BL motor 1.5Y 1550kv Sensored/Sensorless
TT2364 4038 1/8 BL motor 3D 1350kv Sensored/Sensorless

e-mike 03.10.2009 08:46 PM

i cant wait anymore:whistle:....when...when...whennnn:party:

magman 03.10.2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 268716)
They have a 71mm long motor targeted for buggies and a 76mm long motor targeted for truggies. More info on kv values for each: http://teamtekin.com/t8.html

Thanks for the info:mdr:...I missed that when I looked at their site 2 weeks ago.


Sweet...I might forgo the mmm Medusa set up I was planning on for my Revo 3.3 conversion if the reviews are good!

TekinTeamMgr 03.10.2009 09:38 PM

Those were taken with a cell phone.

I handed my radio to at least 5 other drivers there that day. The all said about the same thing "It's like a super fast huge 1/10 4wd buggy!" which isn't too far from the truth.

magman 03.10.2009 10:47 PM

We all really look forward to people getting their hands on these and putting them through some "torture" tests

rhylsadar 03.11.2009 04:49 AM

Quote:

"It's like a super fast huge 1/10 4wd buggy!"
yeah nice. but thats how it always was since the 8th scale buggys were converted years ago.

i have to say i like it very much that team tekin offers that many motor options in kv.

bye
rhylsadar

BlackedOutREVO 03.12.2009 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 268577)
I want to let you know of a macro button on your camera. It is great for taking pictures less then 2 feet away. It makes the pictures not-blurry.

Tekin Prez[/QUOTE]

Quote:

Originally Posted by e-mike (Post 268774)
i cant wait anymore:whistle:....when...when...whennnn:party:

Haha same here:mdr:

Quote:

Originally Posted by TekinTeamMgr (Post 268787)
Those were taken with a cell phone.

I handed my radio to at least 5 other drivers there that day. The all said about the same thing "It's like a super fast huge 1/10 4wd buggy!" which isn't too far from the truth.

Yup! Thanks:mdr: Thought it would of been obvious they were cell pics, I dont usually have a camera on it:lol::na:

Thanks again Randy! Had alot of fun, let me or Sawyer know if your going back over there. Was nice to have someone that actually know what there doing at cap, not a VXL slash or something LMAO..

BlackedOutREVO 03.12.2009 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rhylsadar (Post 268870)
yeah nice. but thats how it always was since the 8th scale buggys were converted years ago.

i have to say i like it very much that team tekin offers that many motor options in kv.

bye
rhylsadar

You will see when this system comes out....

The way this combo drove was amazing. Sensored 8th scale is whats up for racing! If you dont race it, you will never be able to take advantage of the combo

teamtekin 03.12.2009 09:24 PM

Looks like we are going to have Rx8 systems running at the Silver State race in Vegas. The big names will be running as well with over 40 entries so far. We are certainly not Amain drivers at an event of this level, but we will be there smiling and letting the system speak for itself. We are bringing 3 buggies and setting up a few for others.

Ty turns 21 that weekend so it should be all good in the fun department:party::party::party:..... and believe me we deserve some:whip:

Tekin Prez

TekinTeamMgr 03.13.2009 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamtekin (Post 269420)
We are certainly not Amain drivers at an event of this level, but we will be there smiling and letting the system speak for itself. Tekin Prez

Hey man speak for yourself! LOL

I will be testing at Rescue Mini Speedway this weekend.

Electric Dave 03.15.2009 09:11 AM

I'm very curious how you guys would compare Sensored to Sensorless in 1/8th applications. What would the racer notice as different? Also is there any efficiency difference in the two?

lutach 03.15.2009 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Dave (Post 270129)
I'm very curious how you guys would compare Sensored to Sensorless in 1/8th applications. What would the racer notice as different? Also is there any efficiency difference in the two?

Sensored knows exactly where the rotor is and fire the correct coil, so no guess work and you get a smooth stutter free start up. With the new hybrid technology, you get both. At slow speeds or just on start ups you'll be in sensored mode, but then it just goes to sensorless which takes advantage of timing and maybe some other engineering things I'm not aware of. I think that sensored might offer a better efficiency because it reduces the starting power needed. I'm not sure how the RX8 will be, but I've noticed that sensored uses less start up AMPs then sensorless with some of the hybrid ESCs I have used. So the difference between the two is basically a sensored set up will always start your motor with no stuttering issues which could come handy for speed runs.

TekinTeamMgr 03.15.2009 02:30 PM

Lutah is on it. Sensored is a perfect start EVERY time. The added control in the air and having the consistency is so important during racing. I know when I squeeze the trigger or tap the brakes and get back on throttle that the motor will respond to my every command.

Some video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Dlbl5rtaXs

Electric Dave 03.15.2009 02:55 PM

Thanks for the comments. I suppose I never really felt the startup issues with the Senseless stuff but since you mention brakes to throttle, one complaint I do have about my current setups is that it seems like when I brake, there is a pause, very slight but in racing every 10th counts, before the truck begins to move out again. Is this slight lag something I may not feel with the Sensored RX8?

TekinTeamMgr 03.15.2009 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electric Dave (Post 270209)
one complaint I do have about my current setups is that it seems like when I brake, there is a pause, very slight but in racing every 10th counts, before the truck begins to move out again.


That is exactly what I'm talking about. No delay, perfect everytime. When races are decided by tenths it does matter.:mdr:

magman 03.15.2009 08:13 PM

I can't wait to try it in my Revo!

Electric Dave 03.15.2009 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TekinTeamMgr (Post 270224)
That is exactly what I'm talking about. No delay, perfect everytime. When races are decided by tenths it does matter.:mdr:

Now that is music to my ears!

whitrzac 03.15.2009 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamtekin (Post 269420)
Looks like we are going to have Rx8 systems running at the Silver State race in Vegas. The big names will be running as well with over 40 entries so far. We are certainly not Amain drivers at an event of this level, but we will be there smiling and letting the system speak for itself. We are bringing 3 buggies and setting up a few for others.

Ty turns 21 that weekend so it should be all good in the fun department:party::party::party:..... and believe me we deserve some:whip:

Tekin Prez

cars go faster, and your alwase in 1st, when your hammerd:lol:

bradfox2 03.15.2009 10:33 PM

I would go to the silver state race with my tekin setup if only I had my tekin setup.


I dont think it will be out on time. Everyone is leaving april 1st for silver state race.

big greg 03.16.2009 02:16 AM

i really dont notice a "pause" in any of my nonsensored setups, im am optimistic on this one, its nice to have more options for people, but i dont think that its sensored will be that much of a difference

jhautz 03.19.2009 12:37 AM

Try racing a 1/10 with a sensorless system then try a sensored system. Sensored is just smoother and a little more precise feeling in both acceleration and (in my opinion) even more importantly braking. Not as big of a deal in the 1/8 size vehicles, but on the track any little bit helps.

teamtekin 03.19.2009 02:30 PM

This is why we are going to release the systems and motors first. Our motors will run great with any sensorless controller and our esc will run great with any motor. However to truly apreciate the advantages you need to run our motor with our controller.

It will speak for itself. Everyone that has ever driven it says the same thing. Wow! No sense in us cheerleading too much at this point. Some non-biased users will have them soon and I am sure we will hear lots of feeback.

Sparky 03.19.2009 04:07 PM

I did not believe there would be much difference between the LRP and the Tekin RS Pro, but I tried it anyway. I was very surprised how much better the RS Pro was and both of them are sensored controllers. I’m sure I will notice the same difference or more with the RX8 vs other sensorless controllers. But then again for a lot of people that are not racing, they will be happy with the sensorless. I’m running in the expert class and I need every advantage I can find. I hope the RX8 delivers.:whip:

big greg 03.19.2009 04:30 PM

i wonder if the drivetrain slop in 1/8 scales will limit the real benefits? you know 1/10 scale stuff is usually really tight, which most 1/8 are loose brand new lol

teamtekin 03.19.2009 04:56 PM

The free rolling T8 motors with lack of cog torque also make the Tekin system a lot smoother. There are a lot of areas that this system has advantages. All of them together makes it butter....

Obviously some will fail. This is a very abusive application, but in general we are very confident people will be pleased overall. I know we are and I am very hard to please:whip:

e-mike 03.19.2009 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teamtekin (Post 271457)
I know we are and I am very hard to please:whip:

me too:yes:



so no temps issue without the fan on the esc?????

teamtekin 03.19.2009 05:12 PM

I do not know about no temp issues with no fan. Anything can be pushed hard enough to overheat. We do not use a fan testing so we can see the real heat and find limits. I think you might find thermal shutdown on really hot days and aggressive setups without the fan, but we have not yet. It is designed to have a fan and handle any setup. It does not save size, wt or power to not use it so I am not sure why you would not use it. It only comes on when it needs to.

crazyjr 04.28.2009 12:20 PM

Is the motors a slotted design or a slotless design? I have run neu motors for a year or so now and my problem is that on jumps, if i let off the throttle, the car rotates due to the rotor being manipulated by the magnet and the slot design of the motor. It's like you hit the brakes hard, Does tekin have that problem?

TekinTeamMgr 04.28.2009 12:25 PM

Our motors are slotted however we have far less cog torque that the Neu's. This means that we coast way more. You will most likely add a bit of drag brake with ours if you're used to the Neu's. My car is not affected by the natural drag of the Tekin T8 motor.


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