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SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 01:11 PM

How good are these NeuEnergy or Neumotors Lipo's ?
 
First off I know I should be buying a Thunder Power, best quality longest life cycle. I have one now, but I need a large 5s and need to save some $. Tryng to pick a suitable Lipo for my 4wd 1/5 8lb revo losi hybrid onroad rally car

I heard from Castle that Neu motors batteries are very good quality and having a sale . http://www.neumotors.com/store/page12/page12.html
Anybody know the quality or have experience with the Neumotors or the Neuenergy batteries ? ? ?
Rc-monster store Neuenergy batt here http://www.rc-monster.com/batteries.php

5S 5000 mah 25c continuous discharge/50c burst Lipoly pack from Neu. 5s 18.5 nominal voltage. Includes 12g wire and female Dean's connector.
125 amp continuous discharge capacity. 250 amp short burst discharge capacity!

5S 5500xp NEU5500XP 5S1P 18.2volts
25/50C Discharge/5C Charge

Thanks

FastXR 04.08.2009 01:19 PM

I'm sure others will reply to this, but NeuEnergy batteries are great I have 3 of them and I got all of them at a great price and they really perform well. They use Enerland cells so they are a quality product.

Electric Eel 04.08.2009 01:30 PM

The Neu's are some of the best batteries I have ever used.

starscream 04.08.2009 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastXR (Post 277576)
I'm sure others will reply to this, but NeuEnergy batteries are great I have 3 of them and I got all of them at a great price and they really perform well. They use Enerland cells so they are a quality product.

I read that these cells are not Enerland but are a good quality cell though
I picked up a used pack and it works great

FastXR 04.08.2009 02:01 PM

I thought they were, my bad if they aren't but they are good regardless the brand they are.

jhautz 04.08.2009 03:14 PM

Every bit as good as TP or Flightpower IMO. I have or have had just about all of them and the Neu batteries are as good or better than anything else out there in my experience.

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 03:43 PM

Thanks thats very reasuring

I wonder is Neumotors batteries come from the same place as Neuenergy ??

so nobody has used or heard of Neumotors ?

jhautz 04.08.2009 04:05 PM

Neumotors are the motors made by Neu, and Neuenergy are the batteries made by Neu. Same company.

FastXR 04.08.2009 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 277623)
Neumotors are the motors made by Neu, and Neuenergy are the batteries made by Neu. Same company.

What he said!

And yes we've heard of Neu motors they are great motors, most of us use them in one form or another, Genuine Neu, Tekno Neu, Castle Neu.

No offense but a simple search will on these forums will provide you with tons of info on both of these subjects :mdr:

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 277623)
Neumotors are the motors made by Neu, and Neuenergy are the batteries made by Neu. Same company.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FastXR (Post 277624)
What he said!

And yes we've heard of Neu motors they are great motors, most of us use them in one form or another, Genuine Neu, Tekno Neu, Castle Neu.

No offense but a simple search will on these forums will provide you with tons of info on both of these subjects :mdr:


Actually Neumotors HAVE LIPO's so I was asking about that as well.

see what I can find on search
thanks
I'll post back the results

lincpimp 04.08.2009 04:42 PM

Neuenergy lipos are good. I have a few of their packs and have always been happy with the performance. I would say they are just as good as thunderpower.

I have not disassembled any neuenergy packs yet, so I am not sure of the cell manufacturer...

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 04:48 PM

Lipo Score keeper

Neuenergy 5

Neumotors 0

lincpimp 04.08.2009 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277637)
Lipo Score keeper

Neuenergy 5

Neumotors 0

Both are the same, but neumotors is not really a company name, neuenergy is. The actual business name of Steve Neu's products is Neutronics.

FastXR 04.08.2009 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277625)
Actually Neumotors HAVE LIPO's so I was asking about that as well.

see what I can find on search
thanks
I'll post back the results

Ah I understand what you are saying now, sorry for the misunderstanding. But I think its all one in the same company, just different divisions (not sure if thats the best description, but it was all I could come up with.)

Anyway if you buy a NeuEnergy Lipo I don't think you will be disappointed. There was a certain company that was blowing out a bunch of their lipos recently, don't know if they have any stock left but wouldn't hurt to check.

jhautz 04.08.2009 05:27 PM

Neutronics... Neuenergy...Neu Motors.... All the same company.

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 05:32 PM

Well if that's all true that is great and would make sense.

Ya think an extra 500mah is worth it ? 5000 $205. VS 5500 $237.

Arct1k 04.08.2009 05:35 PM

I'd just spend $110 on two of these - Neu 30's 5s2p 5k

http://www.flydma.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=254

Arct1k 04.08.2009 05:36 PM

Or 5s2p 6.4k for 140...

http://www.flydma.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=172

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 277651)



splitting the weight sounds appealing. price sounds good, but that's only 80 amps continuous . Any other suggestions ? ?

mkrusedc 04.08.2009 08:07 PM

I love my 5s 5000 mAh. Excellent battery!

Finnster 04.08.2009 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277691)
6400 really price sounds good, and the 5 in series is not an issue ?

something does not add up 5s at 80c for only $70. :oops:

Inventory liquidation as no longer a Neu distributor. LOts of awesome deals. That is all that is left. I think I bought half the store lol

lincpimp 04.08.2009 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277735)
Per voltage and MAH the price is not comparable


Hear me out , a 3200 battery at 5s is cheaper to do twice than to build one at only 5000 mah ??

Is there a battery expert in the house ?
I 'll search in tutorials again


Sure dont make getting a battery easy do they :oh:

Those are closeout prices...

If you run a pair of the 3200 5s packs in parallel you have a 6400 25c 5s pack. For around 150 shipped. You cannot beat this deal. I am a battery expert (of sorts) and can safely say that...

I would buy some more lipos from there, but I have my money tied up right now...

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 277649)
I'd just spend $110 on two of these - Neu 30's 5s2p 5k

http://www.flydma.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=254

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 277651)


Man Talk about Confusing :oh: Hate to burst your bubble but You cant do that:
Found here http://www.robotwars.00server.com/tutorials.html
Lipos wired in series (+ to – ) will increase the total voltage. For example, two 2s lipos wired in series will create a 4s lipo. The mah capacity will remain the same.

Lipos wired in parallel (+ to +, - to -) will increase the total mah available, For example, two 2s 5000mah lipos in parallel will create a 2s 10,000mah lipo. The voltage remains the same.



Please explain how you series these batteries to get 5000mah but only get 5s ?



Per voltage and MAH the price is not comparable

Hear me out , a 3200 battery at 5s is cheaper to do twice than to build one at only 5000 mah ??

Is there a battery expert in the house ?
I 'll search in tutorials again


Sure dont make getting a battery easy do they

lincpimp 04.08.2009 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277749)
Man Talk about Confusing :oh:

Please explain how you series these batteries to get 5000mah but only get 5s ?



Per voltage and MAH the price is not comparable

Hear me out , a 3200 battery at 5s is cheaper to do twice than to build one at only 5000 mah ??

Is there a battery expert in the house ?
I 'll search in tutorials again


Sure dont make getting a battery easy do they

You run them in parallel, I messed up in my last post, fixed now. Sorry for the confusion, long day at work for me!

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 277751)
You run them in parallel, I messed up in my last post, fixed now. Sorry for the confusion, long day at work for me!

yep sorry , I had to read a few times sorry , I just returned from getting my taxes done, yawn headache.


EDIT correction:

It's a 64amp 20c each , if Paralleled it doubles to 128 amp continuous

Two 5000mah 5s 20c (64amps/128brst) / divide by 1000 is 128 amps continuous /256 burst
or
Two 3200 5s 20c Packs = 6400 5s 128 amps continuous

lincpimp 04.08.2009 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277756)
yep sorry , I had to read a few times sorry , I just returned from getting my taxes done, yawn headache.


It's 80amp c each , if Paralleled does it double to 160amp continuous ?

gonna need 120a

Yep double the capacity (mah) and you double the amp output. The C rating remains the same as that is related to the individual cells.

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 277772)
Yep double the capacity (mah) and you double the amp output. The C rating remains the same as that is related to the individual cells.

Wow man thank god you are here, seriously, thank you for explaining this. let's rap this up :party:
So it's a great package to run and it will produce how much continuous amps ? 160 amp or 125 ? or 128 20c + 64amp x 2 =128 .. which is plenty for a 2200-2383 KV to provide speeds above 55mph on a less than 10lb car ? ?

SpeedAssault 04.08.2009 11:05 PM

So now it's a matter of deciding on

Two packs of 5s 2500 at 30c 70amp = 5s 5000mah 140amp
or
Two packs 5s 3200 at 20c 64amp = 5s 6400mah 128amp

What amperage is good ?
does the 140 give more available power or speed and cooler temps but less run time than the 6400 ? ?
or is the 6500 128a plenty of needed power for motors and cool temps ?

lincpimp 04.08.2009 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277783)
So now it's a matter of deciding on

Two packs of 5s 2500 at 30c 70amp = 5s 5000mah 140amp
or
Two packs 5s 3200 at 20c 64amp = 5s 6400mah 128amp

What amperage is good ?
does the 140 give more available power or speed and cooler temps but less run time than the 6400 ? ?
or is the 6500 128a plenty of needed power for motors and cool temps ?


The 3200 packs are actually 25c, the pic is wrong. So they would be good for 160 amps cont if you run 2 5s packs in parallel. If I were you I would get the 3200 packs. Longer runtimes, more amp capability and the price is not much different.

125 amp capable 5s lipo is good for just about anything up to 8th scale geared for less than 50mph. ( I have figured this with multiple setups in dozens of vehicles) Neu lipos are good for their rated specs, unlike other brands.

Finnster 04.09.2009 01:20 AM

As linc said, you are not going to really tell a diff in punch between the two. I would just go by what fits your app better. The 2500 cells are good (I have some) but they are short packs and somewhat tall. The others will lay flatter.

The 2500 packs is what got my crt.5 past 60mph. Either those packs will get an 1/8th to 50 if the motor and gearing is right.

SpeedAssault 04.09.2009 10:07 AM

Sounds good.
it's so weird though to see a 5s 5000 25c 120a for $189. but be able to buy two lipos to get 6400 25c x 2=160a at only $140. :surprised:

how is that possible ? this should be over $200.

lincpimp 04.09.2009 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedassault (Post 277853)
sounds good.
It's so weird though to see a 5s 5000 25c 120a for $189. But be able to buy two lipos to get 6400 25c x 2=160a at only $140. :surprised:

How is that possible ? This should be over $200.

dude, read this carefully ---- it is a closeout sale, dma are clearing out their neu stock

FastXR 04.09.2009 10:36 AM

Im not really sure on this, but are they having some sort of sale? :na:

BrianG 04.09.2009 10:45 AM

I'm starting to get than impression as well. Linc really needs to stop beating around the bush...

FastXR 04.09.2009 10:54 AM

Quote:

I'm starting to get than impression as well. Linc really needs to stop beating around the bush...
Pun intended! :surprised:

lincpimp 04.09.2009 11:42 AM

HAHA, I only put it large font as Speed did not seem to notice that myself and a few others had previously mentioned it....

As far as bush beating goes, well I usually try to keep out of the woods. I prefer a well manicured lawn, with a good view of the mountains.

FastXR 04.09.2009 12:42 PM

Quote:

As far as bush beating goes, well I usually try to keep out of the woods. I prefer a well manicured lawn, with a good view of the mountains.
:yes::yes: :mdr:

SpeedAssault 04.09.2009 01:13 PM

:lol::lol:
thats funny

I analyze things and want to know why, because there usually is a hidden reason. And for lipo there is older versions, different charge rates
The other battery has the XP added in the part name, so I was wondering if it was better ?

I having been trying to talk to the first place but no answer.

edit add, the second place guy, I emailed him but he ignores my question of the XP and he does not know what the V1 listed on his own site is . LAMO

spcpicard 04.09.2009 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpeedAssault (Post 277919)
:lol::lol:
thats funny

I analyze things and want to know why, because there usually is a hidden reason. And for lipo there is older versions, different charge rates
The other battery has the XP added in the part name, so I was wondering if it was better ?

I having been trying to talk to the first place but no answer.

looks like the xp's have a higher charge rate

SpeedAssault 04.09.2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spcpicard (Post 277967)
looks like the xp's have a higher charge rate



so it could be charge at what rate ? charge time ? a lot faster ? worth buying

The neuguy is not anwsering my question, just says "All the 3200s are XPs. The newest ones are 5C and the earlier generation is 1C charge. The other specs remain the same."

What does it Mean ? ? ? ? ? ? trying to learn here


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