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brushlessboy16 04.13.2009 08:12 PM

Some Neat new 1/8th conversions from Ne09
 
Durango-
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5044.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5045.jpg
The Durango electric 8th scale car is one of a kind and whilst it still features Losi suspension parts in this relatively early stage - the rest of the car is shaping up nicely.
The narrow alloy chassis is widened with carbon fibre side pods in this prototype




Gerd Pheifer and his custom Rc8 Buggy.-
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5048.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5049.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5052.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5054.jpg



Ishima Brushless Buggy- I love this one.

http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5060.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5061.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5064.jpg


Caster Racing Buggy
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5081.jpg

brushlessboy16 04.13.2009 08:12 PM

HotBodies D8-E (going into production)
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5093.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5095.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5097.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5103.jpg
http://www.oople.com/rc/photos/neo09...s/OOP_5104.jpg



THE D8E IS SEXY!

_paralyzed_ 04.13.2009 08:42 PM

that ishima iss a total rcm knockoff, Mike made that a looong time ago

hootie7159 04.13.2009 09:09 PM

+1 on the above, from the pictures it looks like the e-maxx center diff/single motor setup....but the others are pretty sick!...looks like bushless 1/8th scale racing is taking off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

brushlessboy16 04.13.2009 09:36 PM

The ishima also looks to have a rear mounted disk brake., look at the linkage goig past the motor to the back of the car

rootar 04.13.2009 11:53 PM

im in awe of the idiot who was allowed to desgin that hotbodies, WTH were they smoking when they decided itd be great to put ALLL the weight on the same friggin side of the car........

the ishima is what other already said something that has been done, the cg is higher and the weight is farther out to the edges of the chassis which doesnt help anyhting thing, there are much better setups than that.


that rc8 looks good!

and the durango looks like we'd expect "overly complicated" .

whitrzac 04.14.2009 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 279124)
im in awe of the idiot who was allowed to desgin that hotbodies, WTH were they smoking when they decided itd be great to put ALLL the weight on the same friggin side of the car........

the ishima is what other already said something that has been done, the cg is higher and the weight is farther out to the edges of the chassis which doesnt help anyhting thing, there are much better setups than that.


that rc8 looks good!

and the durango looks like we'd expect "overly complicated" .


but its ohh so cool:lol:

jnev 04.14.2009 12:07 AM

This is what Mike had to say about the new Hot Bodies buggy. May interest some of you...

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Monster (Post 5662014)
A servo weighs about 2 ounces(4 oz total). The Novak ESC weighs 5 oz. The receiver and box weighs perhaps another 4 ounces. 6 oz for the center diff - 19 oz total weight on the non-motor side.

The Novak HV motor weighs 8.5 oz.(most 1/8 motors are heavier yet - a 1512 Neu weighs in at 10+oz)) and the battery tray weighs perhaps 2 -3 oz. - this leaves 8-9oz for battery weight(or 6-8oz if using a 1512 Neu).

It is reasonable to conclude that if we can find a 7-9 ounce battery that can propel the 8 pound buggy to competitive track speeds for 10 or so minutes, the proposed setup is perfect.

Hot Bodies is simply ahead of its time - give it a few more years and this battery will probably be available. :)


slimthelineman 04.14.2009 12:29 AM

like the layout on the rc8!! better hope that battery doesnt move forward in the mount on the motor side.

hootie7159 04.14.2009 12:53 AM

i just noticed that the rc8 doesn't have a top plate over the spur gear..... hmmmm....that would suck if it chewed through his lipo wires...

Steve182 04.14.2009 02:20 AM

Those are some interesting designs.

Im diggin the RC8 though.

rootar 04.14.2009 07:39 AM

jnev i thought mike was being somewhat sarcastic in that post....maybe not i dunno, mike sells the lightest battery you can run in an 1/8th buggy for 10 minutes racing.....its a 6s 2500 pack and in josh's mp9 with a 1512 3.5d it is GREAT runs for right at 12 minutes doesnt get hot, has all the punch in the world, and isnt carrying around any wasted energy..... its the perfect setup, and josh's mp9 doesnt even make legal weight, its unders 7 pounds, he would have to add weight like a 1/10th scale 2wd lipo setup.

rc4x4nut 04.14.2009 09:03 AM

Im really digging that rc8. I have always been a fan of the side by side batt setup.

suicideneil 04.14.2009 11:49 AM

Im liking Gerd Pheifer's setup, but I dont like where he has that red wire runnig right in the 'notch' between spur and pinion- nom nom nom...

Some seriuosly nice setups though, even if the HB one does need some rethinking on the layout (stick rx and brake servo on the same side as the motor, leaving room for a large ~4s lipo on the steering servo side of the chassis, then move the CD further forwardss and flip the motor 180 so you have even more room for a lipo on the other side).

lincpimp 04.14.2009 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 279124)
im in awe of the idiot who was allowed to desgin that hotbodies, WTH were they smoking when they decided itd be great to put ALLL the weight on the same friggin side of the car....

Oval dirt track racing???

Getter Robo 04.14.2009 04:22 PM

The shock towers on the ishima aren't the stock ones, are they?!

Dafni 04.14.2009 05:07 PM

Nice stuff.

Don't like those narrow bodies tho.

Nek 04.14.2009 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 279172)
jnev i thought mike was being somewhat sarcastic in that post....maybe not i dunno, mike sells the lightest battery you can run in an 1/8th buggy for 10 minutes racing.....its a 6s 2500 pack and in josh's mp9 with a 1512 3.5d it is GREAT runs for right at 12 minutes doesnt get hot, has all the punch in the world, and isnt carrying around any wasted energy..... its the perfect setup, and josh's mp9 doesnt even make legal weight, its unders 7 pounds, he would have to add weight like a 1/10th scale 2wd lipo setup.

Do you stop running it at 12 minutes or does the low voltage cutoff kicks in at 12 minutes?

From what you are saying Mike's 2500 (weird it says 2600 on the site now and I am sure I always saw 2500!! :neutral: :neutral: ) can take the amp draw of a 1/8th system. Now I was wondering if I could pull off a 10 minute run on a smallish track using the 5S 2500(2600?) pack on a 1900kv engine in a rather light buggy like the mp9 or 808.

The 5S packs come in at 314g (380g for the 6S). This is close to the motor weight alone! Finned Neu 1512 is 290g and Tekin's T8 4030 is 341g. Using that 5S could make balancing the buggy even easier right?

Semi Pro 04.14.2009 10:09 PM

im loveing the D8 E, i really dig the narrow buggy look

Modding_out 04.15.2009 03:59 PM

whats up with the D8? from the looks of it that motor mount is gona suck

rootar 04.15.2009 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nek (Post 279273)
Do you stop running it at 12 minutes or does the low voltage cutoff kicks in at 12 minutes?

From what you are saying Mike's 2500 (weird it says 2600 on the site now and I am sure I always saw 2500!! :neutral: :neutral: ) can take the amp draw of a 1/8th system. Now I was wondering if I could pull off a 10 minute run on a smallish track using the 5S 2500(2600?) pack on a 1900kv engine in a rather light buggy like the mp9 or 808.

The 5S packs come in at 314g (380g for the 6S). This is close to the motor weight alone! Finned Neu 1512 is 290g and Tekin's T8 4030 is 341g. Using that 5S could make balancing the buggy even easier right?


from our simple math of power consumption per minute in watts compared to the total watts of power the lipos contain we opted for the 6s because our math put us at 9-10 minutes on the 5s while the 6s put us at 11.5-12.5 and yes itll hit the cutoff right after 12mins the 5s would be cutting it extremely close and wouldnt garuntee the runtime needed, while the 6s leaves a perfect amount of room of "saftey". its the same size as a 3s5000 pack and with a 1700kv or lower the power-to-runtime-to-temperature setup is dead on.

MTBikerTim 04.16.2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 279661)
from our simple math of power consumption per minute in watts compared to the total watts of power the lipos contain we opted for the 6s because our math put us at 9-10 minutes on the 5s while the 6s put us at 11.5-12.5 and yes itll hit the cutoff right after 12mins the 5s would be cutting it extremely close and wouldnt garuntee the runtime needed, while the 6s leaves a perfect amount of room of "saftey". its the same size as a 3s5000 pack and with a 1700kv or lower the power-to-runtime-to-temperature setup is dead on.

Some nice buggies. I prefer the standard mike setup though. It seems simpler and simple is best in RC. I'm going to be running 6s 3000mah packs in my buggy as I already have them for my trex 500. I'm glad to here this is a setup that can work well. Just waiting for the tekin motor and esc as I want to try something different.

Nek 04.16.2009 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 279661)
from our simple math of power consumption per minute in watts compared to the total watts of power the lipos contain we opted for the 6s because our math put us at 9-10 minutes on the 5s while the 6s put us at 11.5-12.5 and yes itll hit the cutoff right after 12mins the 5s would be cutting it extremely close and wouldnt garuntee the runtime needed, while the 6s leaves a perfect amount of room of "saftey". its the same size as a 3s5000 pack and with a 1700kv or lower the power-to-runtime-to-temperature setup is dead on.

Thanks for the info!

I ordered a couple 5S Neu packs from flydna at a killer price so I planned my system to run on those and ordered a 1900kv system. When it is back in stock I'll probably order one of mike's 5S 2500 and give it a shot. Saw some nice 5S 25C 3300 over at rclipos.com and they only weight about 50g more than RCM 6S 2500. Could be a good buy for my setup :)


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