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T-Bro 04.23.2009 07:52 AM

.32 Nitro VS Bigmaxximum (PULLOUT)!!
 
I'm about to have a pullout:whip: with my fully upgraded 1/8 E-Maxx and a 1/8 Savage with a .32 motor in it (3.6 hp).
I hear that nitro motor is a beast! I also am witness that when it comes to Brushless, the Bigmaxximum is a beast as well. This should be really fun:lol:
I will be posting a video of the challenge soon.

Who do you have your money on??:rules:

My bad folks
Here's my setup...
100% Aluminum from bumper to bumper (pretty darn heavy as is) but I'll probably add...
1/8 hybrids from fastlane machine.
1/8 hyper 7 spyder diffs
All aluminum gears in the tranny
Bigmaxximum Motor
Schulze 18.149 (149-200)amps
18 3700 NIMH Cells (Haven't bought my 2 11.1's lipo's yet)
16 tooth pinion & 72 tooth spur...(just for the pull-out)

brushlessboy16 04.23.2009 08:25 AM

Whats the setup on the emaxx?

Takedown 04.23.2009 09:06 AM

As long as your geared right, weigh as much or more that your opponent and have the torque "obviously" then you should do fine. I would throw some weights on your maxx just for this occasion. It will make it that much more difficult for the savage to fight back. The pletty shouldnt mind. Ive seen brushless e-maxx's outpull 1/5's because they are setup right. What setup are you running? 4s-6s, ESC, Tires, Gearing, Type of batts?

Takedown 04.23.2009 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Bro (Post 281681)
I'm about to have a pullout:whip: with my fully upgraded 1/8 E-Maxx and a 1/8 Savage with a .32 motor in it (3.6 hp).
I hear that nitro motor is a beast! I also am witness that when it comes to Brushless, the Bigmaxximum is a beast as well. This should be really fun:lol:
I will be posting a video of the challenge soon.

Who do you have your money on??:rules:

And 3.6hp is bull IMO...

RUSTY XL-5 04.23.2009 11:10 AM

Where are you in NC? I'd love to watch. :lol:

BrianG 04.23.2009 11:54 AM

Just gear that puppy down! Motor torque is multiplied by the total gear reduction, so the lower the gearing, the more torque it will have. Gear down, add lots of weight, and a let 'er rip! Maybe use a bunch of paralleled lipos so that the motor is free to pull whatever current it needs with minimal voltage drop.

brushlessboy16 04.23.2009 12:10 PM

Gear down because startup under load or rolling the opposite direction is iffy, try and keep a decent motor speed when pulling

BrianG 04.23.2009 12:19 PM

I have a feeling the BL will win easily. The electric will have 100% torque right off the bat, while the nitro has to build up the rpms for the engine to develop torque. Although, if this was a serious contest, the nitro would probably be better with a tighter clutchbell spring and grippier shoes. That way, the motor is free to spin up more before the clutch engages (getting further up the rpm/torque curve), and then engage hard when it does. Similar to revving a 1:1 car >=3krpm and then dumping the clutch.

Takedown 04.23.2009 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 281738)
I have a feeling the BL will win easily. The electric will have 100% torque right off the bat, while the nitro has to build up the rpms for the engine to develop torque. Although, if this was a serious contest, the nitro would probably be better with a tighter clutchbell spring and grippier shoes. That way, the motor is free to spin up more before the clutch engages (getting further up the rpm/torque curve), and then engage hard when it does. Similar to revving a 1:1 car >=3krpm and then dumping the clutch.

Imagine a brakepress on a nitro.:oh: Could set up the 3ch to be on/off brakes. Just hold full throttle and flip ch3 off when the flag goes down.

BrianG 04.23.2009 12:25 PM

lol, if the clutchbell lasts that long! Talk about lots of heat build-up...

Takedown 04.23.2009 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 281741)
lol, if the clutchbell lasts that long! Talk about lots of heat build-up...

Ya I was just thinking about that.:lol: Would still be neat to watch though.

lutach 04.23.2009 01:09 PM

Brushless rules...

Takedown 04.23.2009 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 281751)
Brushless rules...

Random, But yes I agree...:yipi:

suicideneil 04.23.2009 01:58 PM

Electric vs Nitro = no contest:

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Good times, from back in the early days of BombProof and BL... :smile:

lutach 04.23.2009 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 281764)
Electric vs Nitro = no contest:

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Good times, from back in the early days of BombProof and BL... :smile:

BRUSHLESS RULES....:party:

bruce750i 04.23.2009 02:01 PM

I once modded a revo tranny to have a neutral instead of reverse on the 3rd ch(clutch) it was pointless for brushless application but for nitro it might be of some use? Red line rpms would come pretty fast.

brushlessboy16 04.23.2009 03:08 PM

im pretty sure this is what you guys are talking about on the clutch.

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Takedown 04.23.2009 03:40 PM

I dont get the point of that though on a brushless setup. It would be useful on a nitro.

T-Bro 04.23.2009 04:26 PM

Here's my setup...
100% Aluminum from bumper to bumper (pretty darn heavy as is) but I'll probably add...
1/8 hybrids from fastlane machine.
1/8 hyper 7 spyder diffs
All aluminum gears in the tranny
Bigmaxximum Motor
Schulze 18.149 (149-200)amps
18 3700 NIMH Cells (Haven't bought my 2 11.1's lipo's yet)
16 tooth pinion & 72 tooth spur...(just for the pull-out)

E-Revonut 04.23.2009 04:28 PM

those nimh are gonna hurt you!

T-Bro 04.23.2009 04:37 PM

Lol yeah I know... I got so much cash in the truck I'm too poor to afford the lipos for it! Lol. I'm on it... It's my next investment though, that's a fact!!
The only good thing is they weigh a ton compared to the lipos so they will help give me more weight for this pullout.

Also yes I'm in Charlotte Carolina... (Any locals are welcome to come watch)!
We are meeting up where we all drag race at to see each others trucks this Sunday. The pullout is scheduled for next Sunday if all goes well.

Delta Maxx 04.25.2009 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 281764)
Electric vs Nitro = no contest:

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Good times, from back in the early days of BombProof and BL... :smile:



i was there !

it was real early the savage run with two Bigmaxx and two schulze on 28nimh
and it eat spurgears also if you only look at the triger

:diablo: inside

Dafni 04.25.2009 11:25 AM

As for pulling stuff around (or pulling contests) a big factor is TIRES! Try to get the meanest tires you can find.
Are you pulling on the street? Dirt or grass?

A properly set up BL truck will outpull any nitro, no question.

SV6000 04.25.2009 11:53 AM

Hi T Bro what voltage are you running your Big maxximum on. I have one and am a little worried about running it on 6s

suicideneil 04.26.2009 01:01 PM

6s would be nutty, but apparently 5s is the sweet spot for the BM.

T-Bro 04.27.2009 10:50 AM

Pullout Delay
My truck is so heavy and that motor is so strong I can no longer use plastic wheels. I strip a new rear wheel EVERY RUN!!
I need some good looking (LARGE) aluminum wheels so I can play for more than 10 minutes before I shred another platic wheel hub!
Any suggestions???

Also, I'm running my truck on 18 3700 cells. If you have the shculze and the Bigmaxximum u can run 6s with no problem. I'm about to get some lipos and I'm going 6s str8 out da gate! lol.

E-Revonut 04.27.2009 12:20 PM

What size hex do you have? If it's only 14mm just move up to 17mm. I stripped a couple 14mm hexs with a stock revo 3.3, put 17mm hexs on my e-revo that has twice the torque and haven't had a problem

_paralyzed_ 04.27.2009 05:33 PM

stop double posting t-bro! skellyo is selling 17mm adapters in the general section

T-Bro 04.29.2009 07:13 AM

Lmao! Paralyzed... Are you asking me, or are you telling me??
(Who p*ssed in your cheerios)?? Wasn't me I swear! lol.
I think it might be best that you not respond to my posts from now on.
Peace.

crazyjr 04.29.2009 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by E-Revonut (Post 281800)
those nimh are gonna hurt you!

Maybe not, with lipo's he'd be lighter and just blow the tires off. Not to mention the NIMH will choke power to a manageable level to control

_paralyzed_ 04.29.2009 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Bro (Post 283157)
Lmao! Paralyzed... Are you asking me, or are you telling me??
(Who p*ssed in your cheerios)?? Wasn't me I swear! lol.
I think it might be best that you not respond to my posts from now on.
Peace.

Ha! I just saw you double posting a few things! We all see all of the boards and will see your questions. I'm just a smart a$$ I mean no harm :yipi:

lincpimp 04.29.2009 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Bro (Post 283157)
Lmao! Paralyzed... Are you asking me, or are you telling me??
(Who p*ssed in your cheerios)?? Wasn't me I swear! lol.
I think it might be best that you not respond to my posts from now on.
Peace.

Hey T-Bag, stop whining about the poor bastard in the wheelchair and put some decent hexes and wheels on your truck... And keep your junk out of the cereal!

If you keep whining your status will be permanently changed to "traxxas forum moderator":rules:

Takedown 04.29.2009 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 283247)
Hey T-Bag, stop whining about the poor bastard in the wheelchair and put some decent hexes and wheels on your truck... And keep your junk out of the cereal!

If you keep whining your status will be permanently changed to "traxxas forum moderator":rules:

Thats an alltime low linc.:eyes::rofl:

lutach 04.29.2009 03:42 PM

T-Bro,

Don't mind those 2....(Here it comes), you should know that lincpimp is a pimp and _paralyzed_ is his favorite you know :yipi::party::whistle::gasp:.
You should make a song about them 2 blokes, should be something hilarious, I'll even ask my friend to play something with his "cavaquinho" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaAyqiHLduw.

I can't wait to see you put on a whooping.

E-Revonut 04.29.2009 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 283247)
Hey T-Bag, stop whining about the poor bastard in the wheelchair and put some decent hexes and wheels on your truck... And keep your junk out of the cereal!

If you keep whining your status will be permanently changed to "traxxas forum moderator":rules:

Nice one Linc:lol:

Some 17mm hexes will make a huge difference. Double posting is shunned upon here, and if you can't take some heat....stay outta the kitchen! We aren't all serious here, some like to play more than others, LincPimp and paralyzed just happen to be two that like to joke around alot. You'll have to get used to it if your gonna hang out here:na:

mkrusedc 04.29.2009 05:43 PM

There are some aluminum wheels for sale on the UE forum. I'l check to see if they are still for sale.........

T-Bro 05.01.2009 10:33 AM

Oh joking is my profession! I just try to stop it b4 somebody get's their little feelings hurt.
I'm right here! Just don't joke with me if you can't take some raw disses in return.... N I do mean R.A.W.
P.S.
Lutach, I would if it was worth it, but I don't communicate with, or make songs about lonely, ensecure forum groupies who want some special attention. Sorry lol...

_paralyzed_ 05.01.2009 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Bro (Post 283710)
Oh joking is my profession! I just try to stop it b4 somebody get's their little feelings hurt.
I'm right here! Just don't joke with me if you can't take some raw disses in return.... N I do mean R.A.W.
P.S.
Lutach, I would if it was worth it, but I don't communicate with, or make songs about lonely, ensecure forum groupies who want some special attention. Sorry lol...

good to see you back, I thought I scared you away.:lol: Lincpimp's the king on raw disses, what you got?:oh:

nitrostarter 05.01.2009 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by T-Bro (Post 283710)
Oh joking is my profession! I just try to stop it b4 somebody get's their little feelings hurt.
I'm right here! Just don't joke with me if you can't take some raw disses in return.... N I do mean R.A.W.
P.S.
Lutach, I would if it was worth it, but I don't communicate with, or make songs about lonely, ensecure forum groupies who want some special attention. Sorry lol...

That was RAW? calling him a forum groupie?

BTW: I'd love to hear some of that rapping you do as you state in your profile interests...

T-Bro 05.09.2009 06:52 PM

Naw that wasn't raw that was real... lol. You'll know raw when you hear it. (Hopefully you never will have to). We'll see...
Go to my website (it's my signature) then click on my myspace page at the bottom. You won't hear nothing x-rated or raw because my music is clean.
Whenever the time comes, I do have that 50cent/T.I. hardcore rap on stand-by lol.


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