Savage X conversion thread
 

My Savage is going to under-go a conversion here soon... Just bought a 2075kv motor. It will run similar to an 8xl, but with a finned can, so hopefully cooler. Got that for $30. I also got some tires for $35. Nitro motor is going on E-bay soon, if I can get anything for it. Just sold my old phone tonight, made $70. My current cash is $70, but I was also planning on selling my rc18 bl, and my Xbox (which I am now debating...)

Thinking of running a plane esc with mech brakes. First thing I will need is a motor mount, a pinion, and battery trays. That is step 2 in the conversion. Looking for thoughts. FLM foward conversion, RCM conversion (both quite pricey), then there is the $30 Kershaw motor mount. Let me know of any others that are out there. As far as trays, Kershaw sells them for $47, but I think I can do better... Anyone know of a place? I need to order a pinion off tower, I am thinking 14/47 should be good.

Then there comes the driveline... I was thinking an all metal 2 speed... If you guys do not suggest that, I will probably just lock the truck in 1st.

Got a few things to put on E-bay. K4.1 star engine, and my stock tires along with my rc18 (p.m. me if you're interested in anything). Planning on a new body, and a wheelie bar from tower as well.

IMPUT APPRECIATED! :yes:

Ok, look in my thread for the hv savage. That is about as cheap as a savage can be done. You can cut up an old emaxx chassis (my favorite) or pede chassis for the battery trays. I used a 60amp plane esc for 8s and a 14xl. All of my lipos cost about 110 bucks. Made the mount myself, but the kershaw mount may be your best bet as you motor is larger in diameter than what I used and it will not fit easily inside the tvps and still offer decent gearing options. I used the stock 2 speed, never had any issues with it. I did upgrade to the dual steel disk brakes, that was necessary. And the bellcrank mounted servo saver too, not sure if you have that, it is needed IMO.

Something like a turnigy 100 amp esc, pistix adapter and 4s lipo for your "death toaster" would be good. Hobby City is the best bet for the esc and lipo, and OSE sells the pistix, I think.

Hey linc have you happened to try out the Hextronik 120a 6s esc or the Sentilon 12s 100?

I've tried the Hextroniks 120amp in my boats. Pretty good esc. Reuires PiStix. Overall pretty good for the prices.

Ive been wanting to try one.:yes:

Your quitting rc arent you?


Seems like a new thread from Always Dreaming everyday....:whistle:

Just some feedback for the Kershaw twin motor mount for the savy X. It works well, so well that I forgot to drill the one hole it requires for installation... :whistle:... it never flexed enough to ruin the plastic spur using a bunch of various rated motors from 1200kv up to 2800kv (XL size can) on a MMM using 4, 5 and 6s lipo. (respective to each of the motor's max rated RPM capability)

Not a bad mount for the price. I might drill that hole some day.:sarcastic:

I use them massive zippy-h lipo's and couldn't find a tray long enough, so I just strap the lipo(s) on the TVP's with velcro cable ties and a bit of thin foam to pad the battery from the chassis.

Bought the 44t metal idler gear and shaft for the flux tranny (HPI p/n: 100905), dropped it into the X tranny, now I don't need the servo brakes and now I have reverse,... I like reverse.

Solid truck, but not too fun at high speed. Better for sprinting, jumping, crashing, and really good at rolling over.:oops:

This truck was the cheapest to convert to electric out of all the conversions I've done so far. Gonna bolt on a pair of *cough* titans and an EVX2, pair of 6 cell nimh's, and some old crap Rx/Tx and jump it off the dock into the lake. Slap the paddles on, try to puddle jump it... I want to see how long it will run underwater before it takes a dump.:diablo:

Cheers.

Only want to do this once! :yes:

The 100a 6s plane esc might do well... for $50, and a $30 motor, it's a cheap setup that should get the job done. Still debating mech brakes and reverse...

Just got all the shocks rebuilt, and truck is clean. need to list some items on E-bay hopefully tomorrow! :whistle:

You cant debate mech brakes with that esc. Its needed.

For now yes. To occupied with my real car atm.

Right. As long as no one seriously objects to a 100a, 6s capable plane esc, I am good to go.

Got badlands and a finned 8xl on order... The motor should do fine until It goes out. If it never goes out, then I will run it for a long time hopefully.

Should last a decent amount of time with a spare rotor. ;)

Motor, tires, and wheels will ship out tomorrow. he's including hex hubs so i can convert to 14mm, and a spare rotor. Step 1 - complete?

Now i need to order trays and a motor mount. Kershaw sells a mount for $30, but it requires some cutting of the stock x chassis, something I am not too sure about... Novak sells a dual battery tray kit: http://www.shopatron.com/product/par...er=S5050/135.0 part number s5050. Looking for the cheapest drop in mount for a Savage x, and battery trays. If i have to upgrade to 4.6 specs, i can.... Not 100% sure yet. Not sure on how i want to go about this. I thought about just getting the truck up to flux specs with the same chassis and setup... But then I figured, that's a lot of money just to get a truck up to another stock truck. So I think i want to do something that will be either nicer, or cheaper then the Flux setup... The X is a little outdated, so maybe get some X4.6 TVP's?

Looking for imput!

Novak trays are pretty nice, adjustable height and easy to mount.

as for a motor mount- make your own.

Novak trays it is.

Dunno about making my own mount... never done anything like that before.

1/8'' or 1/4'' 1x1 angle aluminum, a drill with a 1/8in or 9/64in bit for motor mounting screws. then a 1/4 or 17/64 bit for the shaft holes.


drill holes in a strait line and dremel out the excess material for slots.


Its pretty simple

I was wondering how this mount would even hold up "looks to be casted/to thin and not worth buying"- http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...od=ose-drmount

It would be neat if they made these in 36mm dia- http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/pro...jwr-mount-flat

Ben you could probably hook up AD with your old custom mount.

Novak trays for sure. Motor mount will either be custom or the kershaw one. That is pending...

I originally had a single brake disk, which broke. My second set was the HPI dual disk conversion set. One of the disks shattered, and they do not sell replacements unless I want to buy the entire kit over.

Who makes the best brakes? Integy sells some graphite ones, and some steel. HPI sells steel? What about 1 disk vs 2? Or even 3?

Need help, got money burning a hole in my pocket. THX

If you want to call this an update. today (thursday) the tires/wheels came along with the $30 motor. might just be me, but the stance looks wider...

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/n...n/DSCF2167.jpg
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Looks good AD.

Thanks.

Things I need to order:
wheelie bar
Plane esc (not 100% which one yet)
Lipos 5s 5000 mah zippy
Novak battery trays
SOME motor mount. Either Kershaw or custom.

Kershaw mount is ordered. got the 'x' version, so should just drop right in. hope they include screws. Trays will hopefully be ordered tonight. Xbox, rc18, and k4.1 engine are all up on flea bay.

Looks good. Why not just get that 100a car ESC that's on hobbycity now?

Which one is that?

I am debating how cool my planned setup will run....... was just reading a thread with a 8s Savage and how good it runs. Debating if i should've gone with more volts. the power of 5s should be plenty on a 2spd, but not sure on temps. Thinking it will run cold, but the motor is unsure. The plane esc i want is rated at 100A, but up to 12s. Which means, that if something was to go wrong, just buy another battery and run 6-10s Neu/medusa or even Kb45.

I was shopping for parts for my transmission... couldn't find a steel 2nd gear. I opened it up. found 3 gears in the center, one medium, one small, and the center one was the largest. then some gears on top, and bottom. seems pretty complicated, but not sure how i could get my hands on a metal one. I like the idea of a single speed, but from the way i see it, a 2speed will run cooler, and have better performance.

Only does 4s.

And 4s will not move a savvy around very well.

I would just buy a decent speed control. I have a feeling you may have issues with a 100 amp hv plane speed control running it on 5s in a MT. I would say to use the HV speed control as a HV speed control and run 8s or more.

Nothing wrong with running 5s, but I think you would benefit from using a car esc, the burst rating of the fets will be higher, and it will handle the abuse better. I would get a MMM and just run a single speed. Much simpler than the 2 speed and mech brakes. I am guessing the 8xl will be enough motor, keep overall speeds under 40mph and it should do fine.

Running a car esc will make it so I dont have to buy pistix adapter, which I couldn't find... Or a new set of mech brakes ($20). That does ruin my entire "budget" plan... Then I will just want a nicer motor later. There is just something about making my car the same as the flux that I don't like...seems...lame. I am fine running single speed, as long as it runs fast, I am good. I thought it would run cooler? And better speeds? Thinking of gearing 15/49......

Makes me thing about this whole "budget setup," and being "unique and more powerful" then a stock truck (Flux).

You're probably right, linc. MMM is the way to go --- trusted, and powerful.

Edit....my K4.1 nitro engine is up to $41 on E-bay. The Xbox and Rc18 I am not worried about, but the motor I am pretty stoked on.

I am going to start a list. The motor I bought limits my battery to a 5s.... :whip: which means that if I do decide to upgrade in motor, another 3s pack, (combined with the one I already have) would give me 6s. OR, I could get 6s from the start, run balls-on-the-wall, and when it goes out, get myself a real motor. The way i see it now: The motor has already costed me $30, no reason to spend the price of a 3s on it....

Savage roller - check
Kershaw mount - check
Novak trays (going to drill holes in them and mount) - check
Tower order - misc parts, balancing adapters, wheelie bar, etc. - ____
Zippy 5s (wanted 6s, but due to my motors ideal RPM range being under 40k, that will not happen) - ____
MMM esc - ____

I was thinking either a MMM setup on 6s, or a unique setup... for the price of the MMM setup, I could run a 80MM medusa on 8s with that $100 plane esc.....

I got it! here it is... Get 2 4s 5000 mah zippys. Then a 100a plane esc. I can run the packs in series (14.8v i think) for the 8xl, and hook them up in parallel to run the 80mm or similar motor when i get it. that covers me for now, and for later. mech brakes of course...

Anyone else think that is a good idea? i could just buy the mmm and call it a day, but for only a tad more, i could potentially be running an 80mm on 8s in a savage.... don't know how that would compare to the standard 6s setup... but should run pretty good i would think.

Got that backwards.


series give you double the voltage (what the "s" in 4s means)


parallel will give you double the runtime and no voltage change.

Seems like it could work:yes:

I always get the two mixed up.... :whistle:

I listed the BP 8xl for sale. Seeing if I have any interest in it. If so, might just go with the MMM combo. seems safe, proven, and more then enough power to push a Savage around. Still thinking on that though. :yes:

Got a box today! Novak battery trays. They are super adjustable. Need to figure out how I am going to mount them. Also, need to lock the tranny first. Don't want to zip tie the trays on until I get the internals setup. Don't want to drill into the battery tray more then once. :yes:

Good choice on the MMM combo.

Pretty easy to mount them.. IIRC the holes to mount them are on 6in centers.

BB has been trying to pound that into my head for... quite a while now. :oops:

Woah, too fast. IIRC = ?

And what about the 6in centers? Guessing you are suggesting I drill the chassis, and mount with screws?

No, mount your motor with snot. Works great! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Alright. I will try to get as low CG as possible, with them as far front as I can... :lol:

I noticed stock Flux gearing is 25/44. Seems a bit high. Could that be right? It's what it says in the Flux manual. And I will be running the same setup... (6s, 2200kv mmm)

Go with a 17t pinion for 6s usage, the manual is wrong. It lists the 25t pinion for use with phatline tires for the max speed.