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XXXDAD 05.16.2009 06:57 PM

Tekin help smoked my new rx8..
 
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Ok I,ve done electric installs before using tekin.. this time FAILURE! Was it me.. Can you look at my wireing>? Yes set to 4 cell lipo foward/brake only. values were all low... hooked it up , would not go.. pushed it went , then stoped .. Click Click Click...... then shut it off at the switch. Herd and saw smoke..! Pooof! Crap... Am I the first to fryone? And WHY! Yes I bought it from you at monster... just wanted you to see if I did something wrong from the pic... or ... I just dont know. This is not my first time using Tekin... never had a problem. I'm getting sick.... gonna puke... Why Why!!!!! :no:

E-Revonut 05.16.2009 07:13 PM

I don't know the layout of the tekin posts but generally the 3 wires going to the motor are all next to each other and the two power wires are next to each other, not the way you have it

rootar 05.16.2009 07:51 PM

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yup e-revonut said it..... my post arrangement on my tekin rs looks like this.......

skellyo 05.16.2009 08:15 PM

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Guys, his motor wiring is correct per the manual. The motor leads are separated by the power input leads.

Attachment 7010

rootar 05.16.2009 08:18 PM

yup..... i was looking for pics of jim's rx8 installed to check and was just coming back to say he has them right..... i wonder why they changed the post layout?????

BrianG 05.16.2009 08:50 PM

Is there a brushed mode on that ESC?

suicideneil 05.16.2009 08:54 PM

Different esc, different wiring.

I dunno, the wiring and soldering all looks sound in that picture, but it sounds like you had really bad cogging and it just went up in smoke. I would say double check and post all your settings just to see if something isnt quite right- it was set for BL and not brushed right (if thats even an option)? Just eliminating all the possibilities...

lutach 05.16.2009 09:27 PM

If things are not working the way they are supposed to, why not check everything over instead of trying to make it work? If something cogs or doesn't move, that means something is wrong and just trying to give it more throttle would just make it fail. Maybe something shorted some where. This thread would also be better in Tekin's page so Team Tekin can see it right away and help you with this problem.

BrianG 05.16.2009 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 287669)
...This thread would also be better in Tekin's page so Team Tekin can see it right away and help you with this problem.

Good point. Thread moved. :smile:

RUSTY XL-5 05.16.2009 09:49 PM

I had a similar issue with a mm. LOTS of cogging, no throttle etc. Turned out to be a loose motor wire solder connection. Fixed it, and mm runs like it did before. :intello:

XXXDAD 05.17.2009 12:19 AM

Had it together for 2 min, then it went bad... was checking things out with the batt. conected and the switch off.. then the smoke started. I am very capable... just not happy not sure what happend...
all the settings were tripple checked before even turning the esc on... i'm a a loss for words....

XXXDAD 05.17.2009 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 287676)
Good point. Thread moved. :smile:

Brand new here,,, thank you!

Freakycrawler 05.17.2009 07:17 AM

I sure hope its not Tekins fault, after all the mess CC made with their MMM's till now.

Btw, not bashing CC( i love cc products) only afraid that also tekin had released a product that isn't ready yet.

RC-Monster Mike 05.17.2009 10:22 AM

The wiring looks correct. I am sure Tekin will take care of you, but I am curious about a couple things myself.
Do you have a hotwire? If so, does it work? And if it works, what are the settings on the esc?
When you pulled the trigger and it didn't go, that should have been a clue that something was wrong. Did the ESC arm itself when you turned the switch on? If it was in the wrong "motor mode", there should have been LEDs 1, 2, 6, and 7 flashing(error code). Once armed, the LEDs should ramp up and down when you apply and release the throttle(and if a motor is connected properly, it should accelerate and decelerate).
If itl et out smoke, it is a mute point I guess, but I am Sure Tekin will be curious to know the chain of events that lead to the smoke for trouble shooting purposes.

TekinTeamMgr 05.17.2009 08:10 PM

I've answered this on a few other threads already but since it's here.

If the wrong motor type was chosen, the Rx8 will not arm.

It could have been either a bad solder joint but judging by the pictures alone this doesn't appear to be the case.

Hard to say much more without seeing it. But like I said in the other thread, we will stand behind our products and make it right.

Contact me and we'll take care of it:

support@teamtekin.com or Rpike@teamtekin.com

XXXDAD 05.17.2009 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lutach (Post 287669)
If things are not working the way they are supposed to, why not check everything over instead of trying to make it work? If something cogs or doesn't move, that means something is wrong and just trying to give it more throttle would just make it fail. Maybe something shorted some where. This thread would also be better in Tekin's page so Team Tekin can see it right away and help you with this problem.

Went for a test... had just turned it on after tripple checking everything... it was sitting on my lap with the Batt. pluged in and the switch OFF..... Went up in smoke in my lap..... was set to brushless, 4 cell, all low values, ... did the claibration and I'm experenced... So Mon. I send it next day with hopes of getting it back for the end of the month! I have Tekin in two other cars. I love there product and Tekin has great customer service.. ! :intello: I have no dought they will come through for me! It's my Birthday weekend and it's for the Jconceps weekend here in Coral Springs Florida! :party:

lutach 05.18.2009 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by XXXDAD (Post 287649)
hooked it up , would not go.. pushed it went , then stoped .. Click Click Click...... then shut it off at the switch.

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Originally Posted by XXXDAD (Post 287894)
Went for a test... had just turned it on after tripple checking everything... it was sitting on my lap with the Batt. pluged in and the switch OFF..... Went up in smoke in my lap..... was set to brushless, 4 cell, all low values, ... did the claibration and I'm experenced... So Mon. I send it next day with hopes of getting it back for the end of the month! I have Tekin in two other cars. I love there product and Tekin has great customer service.. ! :intello: I have no dought they will come through for me! It's my Birthday weekend and it's for the Jconceps weekend here in Coral Springs Florida! :party:

I used to go to the track in Coral Springs when I used to live there and I also went a lot on the track in West Boca.

Maybe it's just one of those units that might have a faulty components somewhere.

Now for Tekin, why have a brushed setting on the RX8? Keep it brushless only. On the R1/RS that setting would be good since it's small and if there's anyone out there still running brushed in a race they can use it and later upgrade to a brushless, but it doesn't make sense in the RX8.

BrianG 05.18.2009 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by lutach (Post 287981)
...Now for Tekin, why have a brushed setting on the RX8? Keep it brushless only. On the R1/RS that setting would be good since it's small and if there's anyone out there still running brushed in a race they can use it and later upgrade to a brushless, but it doesn't make sense in the RX8.

I say, "Why not?". All that is required is a tweak to firmware, so there aren't any extra components needed. And it creates yet another selling point (even though it may never be used). I'm sure some of it is marketing and some is just offering features comparable to the competition. Might be useful for special projects where you want to hook up several medium-power brushed motors to one ESC...

lutach 05.18.2009 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 287987)
I say, "Why not?". All that is required is a tweak to firmware, so there aren't any extra components needed. And it creates yet another selling point (even though it may never be used). I'm sure some of it is marketing and some is just offering features comparable to the competition. Might be useful for special projects where you want to hook up several medium-power brushed motors to one ESC...

Tekin made a racing system for 8th scale brushless racing and one that brought back a 4 pole sensored motor which is already a selling point. As for marketing, they would be better by stating a higher AMP rating like many do, but Tekin is better then those other guys, so the brushed setting on the RX8 does nothing for the product. The R1/RS Pro could pretty well handle those several medium-power brushed motors if a project needs it. I see more and more people just using brushless and don't get why a brushed setting in a brushless ESC is needed. Tekin already has brushed ESC on the market. Now I don't know how much space on the software a brushed mode takes, but it could be space for other option that could improve on the brushless side.

BrianG 05.18.2009 11:45 AM

I doubt that brushed mode takes up any appreciable room in the firmware though. And if they want to add more features, I would think that with todays flash memory capacity/price, that wouldn't be an issue.

I hear ya though. I doubt it makes any different for the final sale. I still think it's just a matter of offering similar capabilities as the competition. Probably never will be a deal-breaker if it wasn't included, but looks better on a spec sheet when comparing to other manufacturers.

Overdriven 05.18.2009 11:50 AM

I personally like the brushed mode feature, but I see your point. I tried a dewalt drill motor ($30 why not) in my erevo when the titans smoked. If it wasn't for me changing my mind all the time I may have only bought an esc instead of the esc/motor combo. I'd still like to try a dual drill motor setup on the 5s packs I have now but I don't know what the motors will draw and if there's an esc that can handle it.

TekinTeamMgr 05.18.2009 12:02 PM

The brushed mode takes up little to no space in the firmware. The reason why it's there is because someone might want an esc that can do 6s on brushed motors. I've got an Rx8 in my Emaxx running dual brushed motors, because I can.

The software is there to prevent the wrong motor type being chosen and then operated.

SpEEdyBL 05.18.2009 08:25 PM

I use brushed mode and 5s on my MMM to power my expermental electric scooter than I found for a dollar at Good Will, so don't say people don't use it!

lutach 05.18.2009 08:34 PM

If the R1, RS and RX8 can be used with a brushed and brushless why have a line of brushed only ESCs? I would live to see how many people will use a brushed motor with 6S lipos and race it successfully. A lot of people have gotten tired on messing with a brushed motor and I don't see the brushed technology getting any better, so why make a brushless ESC run it specially when the company already has brushed only ESC.

TekinTeamMgr 05.18.2009 09:43 PM

Size and cost. The FX line is near half the size of the R1 or RS. We make purpose built products for certain applications. Any brushless controller has the ability to run brushed should the manufacturer choose to add the software.

XXXDAD 05.26.2009 02:19 PM

Sent the RX8 in for service... got it back lightning fast. Always loved Tekin products I go way back with this company. They never let me down! AA++ Service! Thanks to all involved! :yipi:
Now post some Hotwire set-ups for the RX8 w/2050 4 cell.... Please!

XXXDAD 05.29.2009 04:24 PM

Tekin rocks... thanks! I love the feel and control of your system! You guy's came through %150 Thank you Randy!:party: It's my B-Day Today!!

TekinTeamMgr 05.29.2009 04:27 PM

Happy Bday!

We try to offer the best support possible. The thanks should really go to Ty in support though. Without him it would not be at such a high level of customer satisfaction.

Bolt_Crank 05.30.2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TekinTeamMgr (Post 288168)
Size and cost. The FX line is near half the size of the R1 or RS. We make purpose built products for certain applications. Any brushless controller has the ability to run brushed should the manufacturer choose to add the software.

Exactly!


My FX is currently in my RC18MT, because my indoor track only allows stock motors... And it has way more punch and speed than the stock ESC ever had.
Having the LiPo cut off is really nice, as well!

When I get my RS-Pro setup, the brushed mode will be useful, as my TC races in 13.5 BL and 27T brushed GT class.

All brushless ESC's should have the option for brushed motors! Not only is it really convenient, but brushless ESC's also have MASSIVE power for brushed mode!

BUSAFIED 06.16.2009 08:11 PM

burned up the RX8 just this last Sunday. Plugged in the battery, turned on the switch and heard a popping sound. Crap. That can't be good.

The RX8 still turns on, but now there's no chiming from the the motor and it doesn't move the motor at all.


I know it's not the motor. I took out my R1-Pro and connected it, and we got power. Plenty of it too, it seems. At least I know the motor is still good.

So...rather than fiddle with it, I'll be boxing it up and sending it off to Tekin. Just thought I'd report that. :)

BUSAFIED 06.16.2009 08:13 PM

and just to clarify, it was a NeuEnergy 3S 25/50 that I plugged in.

magman 06.16.2009 09:47 PM

I also had a prob. w/my RX8 esc on initial start up....smoke, dead esc...spoke w/Ty and my new esc will be here on Thursday....thank you Tekin!:mdr:

XXXDAD 06.17.2009 11:14 AM

I'm 150% happy with Tekin they are #1 with Service and satisfaction!

XXXDAD 08.03.2009 05:51 PM

Just a quick update my RX8 2050 combo is still going strong no problems what so ever. Smooth and fast! Happy is an understatement! Thanks Tekin!:yipi:


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