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damon 01.22.2006 03:44 AM

Brushless set up for a new guy
 
I am a new E-Maxx owner. It is a stock set up running on 12 cells, though I would like to go to 14. I am looking for a simple brushless system. What is a good basic system? I am looking at the HV Maxx. Also what other modifications do I need to make? I have proline CVD's (came in a package deal with shocks and turn buckles). Is there other equipment I need to have? Thanks!

captain harlock 01.22.2006 06:23 AM

Go for a 9920 and a 8L Wanderer motor. You only have to run 12 cells with this system along with a receiver pack, if needed. The setup might cost around 300+ dollars. Modifications should go for a set of CVDs like MIPs. A strobe slipper kit to tolerate wear a bit longer than the stock slipper. Not alot of mods as a beginning.

boss 302 01.22.2006 09:20 AM

Re: Brushless set up for a new guy
 
Quote:

Originally posted by damon
I am a new E-Maxx owner. It is a stock set up running on 12 cells, though I would like to go to 14. I am looking for a simple brushless system. What is a good basic system? I am looking at the HV Maxx. Also what other modifications do I need to make? I have proline CVD's (came in a package deal with shocks and turn buckles). Is there other equipment I need to have? Thanks!
please dont by a HV-Maxx brushless

maxxdude1234 01.22.2006 09:34 AM

For 12-14cells, look at a warrior 9920, and a wanderer 8XL (you will also need uBEC). This set-up will give you much better runtimes, and a lot more power than an HV-Maxx, plus temps will be very low. I will re-instate what captain harlock said, "Dont buy an HV-maxx." I would also say that the 8L is too hot a motor, go for the 8XL.

boss 302 01.22.2006 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by maxxdude1234
For 12-14cells, look at a warrior 9920, and a wanderer 8XL (you will also need uBEC). This set-up will give you much better runtimes, and a lot more power than an HV-Maxx, plus temps will be very low. I will re-instate what captain harlock said, "Dont buy an HV-maxx." I would also say that the 8L is too hot a motor, go for the 8XL.
that was me who said dont by the HV-Maxx(i made the mistake of getting one)and an 8xl will smoke an HV

coolhandcountry 01.22.2006 10:50 AM

The 8xl will have more power than two hv maxx. I have tried and know.

RC-Monster Mike 01.22.2006 10:52 AM

I won't add to the advice the others have already posted(I agree with them!), but I would like to say one thing, Damon....Welcome to the forums! :)

damon 01.23.2006 06:09 AM

Thanks for the input and the welcome!

I am pretty new at this, so two more basic questions, will the shifting servo still work with the 9920?
And what is a uBEC?

I really appreciate all your help!

boss 302 01.23.2006 07:57 AM

a ubec is an external bec device and the shifting servo should still work

squeeforever 01.23.2006 10:22 PM

first with brushless is almost pointless.

Papa 01.23.2006 10:27 PM

BEC= battery elimination circuit
UBEC= ultimate battery elimination circuit

damon 01.23.2006 11:27 PM

Wow! Thanks for all the great input!

I have a couple other new guy simple questions:
Does the gear (pinion gear) off the titan mount directly on the Wanderer 8XL?
Do I need any thing like a screw set, wires, etc for mounting the motor?
The strobe slipper kit on this site said T-Maxx - will it work for the E-Maxx as well?

I am hoping to have everything in hand when I order the motor. I live in Okinawa Japan, so it takes 1-2 weeks to get stuff here. It would drive me crazy having to wait for a screw set to get the motor mounted.

squeeforever 01.23.2006 11:34 PM

no, the stock pinion wont fit because the xl motors use a 5mm pinion instead of the 1/8th inch as well as the strobe slipper uses mod 1 pitch gears not 32p.

no screws, wires, ect for mounting the motor.

and yes, the slipper will work just fine.

RobK 01.24.2006 05:32 PM

Hello guys,

I'm new here too and am looking for the same thing--my 1st brushless setup to go into my new electric Revo conversion. It's basically a stock Revo with all the Emaxx electronics (EVX, titans, etc.) & tranny.

BTW, let me know if you think I'm hi-jacking this topic.

My question is about the HV-MAXX. So I understand it's not the most powerful (by far). My needs are for bashing & racing. I have access to 3 dirt tracks in my area (lots of dirt around AZ :) and most of them are pretty technical, but all have 1 good straight.

Is the 9920 a good option if racing is important? If yes, then what motor? I would like to get Lipos one day, but that'll have to wait until later. I might want a G2R chassis 1st after the brushless--I modified the stock Revo chassis.

For bashing, I need something that's pretty powerful, but can handle the high Phoenix summer heat (110+ ambients during racing hours), and have fun in mowed grass fields.

Thanks.

-Rob

squeeforever 01.24.2006 06:06 PM

how many cells? i would say the 9920 with a wanderer xl motor. which one depends on how many cells. the 9920/xl will run very cool usually so you should worry about it getting to hot with 110+ degree weather.

RobK 01.24.2006 06:58 PM

To keep racing weight down, I'll probably start with just 12race matched cells (GP3700+). It's no problem to buy another motor when I make the switch to lipos.

So how many turns should I be looking at in an XL can? 8?

-Rob

boss 302 01.24.2006 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RobK
To keep racing weight down, I'll probably start with just 12race matched cells (GP3700+). It's no problem to buy another motor when I make the switch to lipos.

So how many turns should I be looking at in an XL can? 8?

-Rob

an 8xl would do or you could get a lehner 19 series but they are more expensive but are built better :cool:

Toyman 01.25.2006 12:29 AM

What tooth pinion do you recommend for this set up 9920 and 8xl, I'll be using the stock slipper for now.. thanks Steve

g man 01.25.2006 05:08 AM

i agree with the other guys about the novak hv. i have got one my self and have had nothing but trouble . thermal shut downs even when use the reconnend pion and spur gears from novak . had to go to 12pion and 72 spur to fix problem .but then you lose speed and get alot of torque . iam also looking at going to the 8xl and warrior .

RobK 01.25.2006 04:31 PM

Thanks for all the comments, but I have to ask how many of you race? Is the 8XL too much for racing a small tight track designed for stadium trucks & 1/10th scale buggies? When should one consider an L can, or even something like the HV-MAXX? My electric Revo weighs 10.5lbs loaded up with 12 cells & 23MM/40 series bowties, and I haven't really tried to get the weight down yet (still has all steel push/steering rods/pivot balls). I know some of the nitro guys have Revos down in the low 6lbs range.

-Rob

boss 302 01.25.2006 04:47 PM

never consider something like the HV and what tooth spur are you using

damon 01.25.2006 05:46 PM

What is the difference between the 8/9/10 XL?

boss 302 01.25.2006 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by damon
What is the difference between the 8/9/10 XL?

the number is the turn an 8xl would be faster than a 10xl and a 7xl would be faster than a 8xl
but with a 10xl you would get better runtime than with a 7,8,9xl


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