Savage Flux Vs. E-Revo BL edition
 

Well, I am looking at buying my first monster truck.

The savage is appealing because I think it would be a bit tougher than the revo, and is made more for straight bashing.

However the revo has the 2.4 radio which is a huge plus. But I am not sure how well it will hold up to bashing? I never intend to race, although I am not sure I'd like to have a strictly bashing truck. I am having a hard time finding as much info on the revo as I did for the savage.

So I leave it up to you guys to discuss, I'd like opinions from owners from one or the other or both. I know a lot of people have revo conversions, but I am looking for the BL edition. Thanks for any input!

-Matt

You'll be happy with either.

ERBE can do bashing and racing, Flux is more for bashing only.

The E Revo can be set higher for bashing, and lower for speed runs, and in the middle for racing, it can do it all!
The E Revo also has more options to tune the suspension and handling.

They are both VERY tough. The E Revo is very durable and has no real weakpoints where everybody has problems with.
I don't know if the Flux has weakpoints though.

Don't look at the radio to buy an RTR truck ever. Unless they start coming with DX3R's, there's always something to upgrade to.

2.4ghz in a TQ3 case is hardly a decent radio. It's Traxxas' way of controlling the glitching that arose from using the MMM/2200 combo. The Savage Flux has an FM radio system that, if memory serves me right, is made by Futaba. Both have entry level radios.

The Savage will be more durable in stock form, but the Revo is no slouch in the durability category either. I have raced a nitro Savage before, and against a Revo. This was back before the days of BL RTR's were even thought of. My Savage was ALWAYS behind the Revo, and when I drove the Revo, it was ALWAYS in front of the Savage. The Revo's handling is far superior to the Savage's no matter what you do in the way of setups. I tried, and ended up bashing the crap out of the Savage instead of racing it.

Basically, if you're bashing, get the savage. Racing, get the Revo. If you want to bash and race, get the Revo.

Do you already have a 2.4 radio? If not I think you should get the Flux and put that money saved over the E-Revo and get a NICE 2.4 radio. The E-Revo's radio is still a (IMO) crappy radio. You'd be much better off (again, IMO) with something which has more features than Traxxas' 2.4.

Radio aside... I've had a 3.3 Revo converted with an old-style "slipperential" setup, and I currently have a Savage with FLM extended (nitro) chassis and center diff. The Revo was a great truck but I got bored of it, and ended up trading it, although I never had any problems with it. My Savage had held up great and has proven to be more fun. It's also pushing FAR more power than my Revo could have handled (8s 3700mah Lipo) but then again it is a few pounds heavier than my Revo was.

In short, unless you're only racing MT class, I'd say the Savage is the better choice.

+1 - This guy knows what he's talking about. :yes:


They are both great trucks. Have owned both and they both take a bashing like nothing else. The one thing I didn't like about the savage is the steering setup as you need a really strong servo to turn the truck; the stock doesn't cut it. In stock form the revo handles great. The one thing I don't like about my revo is the diffs. They aren't as strong as the revo diffs, however both diffs could be improved. I think the lst diffs fit in both?

I also hated the shocks and the gimmicky pushrod system on the Revo after a while. Diffs are also a pain.

Overall both are good trucks tho. I perfer the Sav for pure bashing tho.

the savage flux has a much better servo than the previous savages.

the drivetrain on the savage isn't perfect, but it is still much stronger than the revo's drivetrain. the ERBE still uses plastic drive shafts. the savage has thick, almost bulletproof shafts. the diffs on the flux are the weakest points, but usually have no problems unless you like to land jumps at WOT. also, the standing backflips aren't that bad if you know how to do them right. too many people keep the throttle going as the truck is landing and THAT is what is making the diffs shred. my converted savage's motor has more power than the CC/NEU motor and my stock, non-hardened, non-shimmed, standard savage x 4.6 rtr diffs are still going strong. (knock on wood)

If the revo was noticeably more than the savage, I wouldn't be thinking about the radio, however it is only a $30 price difference. The closest thing I will be doing to racing is farting around on the local bmx track. What bored you about the revo, and why do you consider the savage more fun?

Thanks for all the replies guys, I don't usually do any homework before I buy an rc but this one won't exactly be cheap lol.

Hi how's it going dude! I work at locol hobbietown and I own a savage xl. From what I the have seen, I think the savage stay's planeted a little better. I Was watching them race.The monster truck class.and noticed the Revo's inside rear wheel lift's abit cousing it to roll.There was a savage x,Revo 3.3 & Revo bl edition.

I hate plastic ANYWHERE in the drivetrain on anything lol, however is anyone having major issues with breaking driveshafts? Those things are HUGE, but do they hold power?

The Revo driveshafts hold up fairly well, and when they do break can be replaced cheaply with deals off ebay, they can also be upgraded. I would estimate that I have about 150hrs or so on my E-Revo now. I have replaced 3 shafts I think. I will admit that they don't hold up well when it's about 10*f outside! I broke two of them in the winter when it was freezing out and the plastic is more brittle.

Overall the E-Revo is a pretty solid truck. I have never owned or even seen a savage in person so I can't comment on them.

erevo / flux
 

i own a erevo and have a friend that bought the flux. all i have to say is every time we go out he breaks. i actively try to break my revo and the only thing i have managed to break is the rear body mount.
i will say the flux handled much better than i expected however the revo is more capable.

The flux has a few weak points, as does the revo. The flux will be able to handle larger tires than the revo, as large tires kill revo diffs (due to the small 2 spider design).

If I had to choose (I have owned 2 erevos, and 2 converted 3.3, plus 3 savages) I would most likely pick the savage. The diffs are better, and the only drop in diff solution for the erevo are Mike;s hybrids which will set you back 2 benjamins... You can pick up a set of flm or GH 1 piece bulks for the savvy for about 100 bucks, and they will help keep the pinion from flexing away from the ring gear, and allow for good tight tolerances while shimming. Diffs are the worst part of going large scale brushless.

Bottom line, if you plan to race and use truggy lpr lightweight itres, go with the revo. If you think you may want to put some big joe's or large 40 series tires on, go with the savage. I have broken both of them, but the savage gets the nod for durability over the revo. You will never break a savage chassis, and it has a full steel drivetrain. Plus hpi parts seem to be a bit cheaper, IIRC, and the savage uses more common parts front and rear so you can stock less spares. All of the arms are the same, as are the diff bulks, hinge pins, etc.

erevo
 

I do run 1/8 truggy tires not the 40s so maybe thats why i have never had drive train issues.

The price difference is less than I thought... the Flux went on sale at the LHS I work at for ~$580, and the E-Revo brushless is usually about $660. But when priced normally I see what you mean.

There's more I can do with my Savage than I could with the Revo. Some bashing I would never try with the Revo because I knew it couldn't take it, while I do the same stuff with my Savage (although not presently because it's in pieces). I dunno, maybe it's also because of the shock setup on the Revo, which seems like it's never smooth, while my Savage has LST shocks which are amazingly smooth.

Yep, heavy large tires are a quick death to emaxx and revo diffs

Get a LST and convert it!

I did not want to throw that in... Since you cannot get a rtr bl lst I figured it might be more than he wants to tackle. But it is the superior basher to either truck already mentioned.

I'm sold on getting a LST. I'll probably sell the Revo to make room for it...

Get the revo it last forever

No contest

A revo just doesn't last the way I drive.

The Savage is still begging for more.

Hmm, leaning back towards the flux now lol. The radio can't be that bad, I have never used 2.4ghz before and I seem to do just fine!

Another vote for the Flux... It's built very well...

The answer is easy get one of each, (E-Revo, Savage XL BL, LST2)thats what I did.
I would make the flux into a XL version as the stock flux looks to short for me.

don´t forget the mounting of the motor and esc are way better on e-revo then the flux..
and e-revo have more handling then the savy....

my vot goes to e-revo.
flux only have a better diffs acess but for the rest e-revo is still the most powerfull electric monster to date!!

when will losi launch one monster electric too??

regards

What are you smoking? The Flux has the same motor and ESC as the BL E-Revo.

The e-revo is faster than flux.
e-revo does 65 mph the flux does 62 mph
the e-revo is lighter and more aerodynamic then the flux
plus the handing on the revo is a lot better then a rollover prone savage flux
BUY A E-REVO

both of them need $50+ in repairs after you crash at that speed:lol:


you can't realy go wrong with ether.

Not overly concerned with top speed, anything 40mph or over is going to make me giggle. I think I have been talked into the savage...If I REALLY wanted too I could buy a new radio for it..However the revo..The diffs would be a pain in the arse to upgrade by the sounds of things.

Also, wasn't looking to start a flame war here lol. Play nice.

Yeah everyone should play nice, or I will starting throwing in random stuff like onion facts or how-to-s on cottage cheese gargling...

You have been warned:rules:

Cottage cheese gargling sounds like a dirty movie gone terribly wrong...


I'll stop there.

Wise choice!

I think part of it has to do with the way you drive. Even when I bash I drive in a very controlled manner (no just full out "lets just nail this jump as fast as I can" type of driving).

This really prevents me from doing a whole lot of retarded stuff that ends up broken things when you miss the jump and careen off into a wall at 40mph.

So, in reference to that, the E-Revo is much easier to keep under control at just about any speed. Its suspension is far superior to anything I have driven.

However, I will say that it is a complicated truck so you have to be very familiar with it and think hard about how changing one thing will effect the truck as a whole (this is mostly in reference to the suspension adjustments).

Other than that, I have pretty much had 0 issues with my Revo 2.5R, and if there are any issues with my G2R it is only the result of running 6S Lipo on a 1940/7 and doing (HARD) runs on pavement where there is gobs of traction causing me to blow drivetrain parts (so I just got Mike's V3 diffs).

The Revo is a very solid truck and will need minimal upgrades to keep complete reliable.

what i mean is that on the flux the esc and motor don´t get much cooling air as on the e-revo because the way they are mount...
and more air means more cooling for both!!

The metal chassis on the Savage is a plus, I've seen people snapping the chassis on the E-Revos (and I snapped a metal nitro chassis on my conversion). The Revo's handling is a ton better, but the Savage is tougher. The plastic driveshafts on the Revo are durable enough IMO, and when they finally let go they're cheap to replace. I don't know if HPI has updated their driveshafts for the Flux or not, but I know people with Savages that shear the ball end of their dogbones right off.

I think they're both solid and it kinda boils down to which you like the best. I know people with nitro Savages and they're always rolling them over, and I hate running out to prop a truck back up. The Revo has a weaker chassis and bad diffs. With an aluminum diff case you don't get nearly as much case flex which is the big killer of the Ring and Pinion gears on the Revos and the new I-beam style diffs are a huge leap forward from the old ones but in the future you may need to upgrade them. The Savage diffs are a little tougher out of the box but if you see the videos of the standing backflips on 6s and think that would be cool to do all the time you will quickly be shearing teeth off of the pinion gear. Again, they're both good trucks and each has their weaknesses so I'd go for the one that tickles your fancy. I personally like the "truckiness" of the Savage yet the sophistication of the E-Revo.