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BP-Revo 05.29.2009 12:25 AM

Thinking of getting a second charger (to be my primary), recommendations?
 
Hey all, right now I have a Hyperion LBA10 Balancer (6S capable) with an ICE charger (only 4S capable).

Before, this was plenty when I would run my E-Maxx, then after, G2R on just 4S. I could still charge the packs as one.

However, since then, I have expanded my electric fleet to include my CRT .5 (which runs 3S, though occasionally I'll throw a 2S pack in there), and I have a 1/16 E-Revo VXL pre-ordered, which I plan to run a paralleled set of 3S packs. And I have since upgraded my G2R to run on 5S and 6S.

So, between all those trucks and battery configurations and my charger's 4S limit, charging takes a long time, which leaves field charging almost a non-option.

So, it leaves me wanting a second charger.

Here are my requirements.

First off it must be quality! I don't want to buy a $15 dollar charger only to have it ruin my FlightPower packs. Under the circumstance I want to charger my two 3S packs in 6S, that's 360 dollars in packs being charged.

Second, it must do 6S at 4.5A so I can charge my G2R packs as one.

Lastly, I'd like it to be a balance charger to simplify things, but if not I will likely buy a FlightPower balancer to go with it (unless you have a balancer to recommend with the the charger, then please do so).

Thanks everyone!

BP

lincpimp 05.29.2009 12:27 AM

Sounds like a 610i or 720i hyperion would be the best bet. I have 2 of the 610i chargers and would recommend them to anyone.

BP-Revo 05.29.2009 12:29 AM

I forgot to ask...

Would this be a charger that I could trust my FlightPower packs to or no? Seems a bit on the cheap side...but you never know.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...idProduct=7523


Linc, where can I get those chargers? Only place I know of is Crap Amps...I'd rather not support them. They get enough money from the noobs.

jnev 05.29.2009 12:42 AM

Mike has a bunch of them:
http://www.rc-monster.com/chargers.php
Including the one lincpimp mentioned. I think the 610I DUO is the ultimate charger. Although steep in price, I don't think you even need a second charger if you have one.

lincpimp 05.29.2009 12:49 AM

Sell the ICE and the LBA10 and get something with a built in balancer... You can get around 70-85 bucks for the ICE and 25-30 for the LBA 10. I did this a while ago, sold my ice and 989 charger sand went hyperion. I have 2 610i and 2 1210i chargers... Plenty of options!

BP-Revo 05.29.2009 12:55 AM

Does the Duo do 6S per side?

lincpimp 05.29.2009 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 290987)
Does the Duo do 6S per side?

Yes. 180 watts of power per side, as long as you have a double extra gangster power supply...

180 is getting kinda close to the 6s at 4.5amps you want. I would want the charger to do at least 5amps at 6s, which is why I bought the 610i non-duo as it can do 250watts. And 2 of them was not much more than the duo...

BP-Revo 05.29.2009 01:24 AM

I don't think so linc? 4.5A x 6 x 4.2 = 113W. Far from it, in fact.

Hmm...time to put the ice up for sale when I get home...

nitrostarter 05.29.2009 01:25 AM

I'd recommend the 720i also. I have it and it works like a charm. 250watts as well, 1-7cells, 20amp max charge, built in balancer. Beautiful charger!

lincpimp 05.29.2009 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BP-Revo (Post 290999)
I don't think so linc? 4.5A x 6 x 4.2 = 113W. Far from it, in fact.

Hmm...time to put the ice up for sale when I get home...

Nothing is 100% effecient. Try factoring 80% effeciency in and it starts getting close...

180 x .8 = 144... Getting closer than I like but if it is ok for you, then go for it!

Keep in mind that you will need a power supply that can output a bare min of 360 watts, at 14v (most hobby power supplys are putting out 14v or so) that is 25amps, but factore in the magic 80% and you get 30+ amps necessary.

I use modded server PS, that are good for 40+ amps at a little over 12v. I have 2 to serve the 4 chargers with a combined potential of 860 watts...

rootar 05.29.2009 01:38 AM

the duo will do a 6s at 5amps on each side, ive done it, make sure you got a hell of a PS because the 30amp unit we were using crashed afterwards...

but agian anything other than hyperion is just about sub-par these days, once you get a hyperion nothing else compares....

nitrostarter 05.29.2009 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 291010)
but agian anything other than hyperion is just about sub-par these days, once you get a hyperion nothing else compares....


And thats an understatement.....

But like mentioned, make sure that your powersupply is up to snuff as well.

BP-Revo 05.29.2009 01:50 AM

Yeah...those are some insane power supply needs. What about a regular computer power supply? Like this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139005

It's really cheap and has a 52A output on its 12V rail. I think that would be MORE than enough. I don't think I'll ever actually ping the 360watt maximum anyway, but this should be plenty if I do.

Has anyone ever modded a CPU power supply? I probably should be opening her up and soldering some bigger gauge wires onto the 12V output huh?

I'm thinking I might just go ahead and keep my ice. It'll be a good back up charger.

But I do need to get rid of some other crap I have lying around...

nitrostarter 05.29.2009 01:55 AM

Something doesnt sound right to me. I have quite a few computer powersupplies laying around. All of them have higher amp ratings at lower voltages. The 12V rating is the lowest amp rating on all +. But this supply, 12+ is the highest amp rating. But I may be wrong...

Most computer supplies are good for 10-12+/- amps. Not enough for most Hyperions...

lincpimp 05.29.2009 02:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rootar (Post 291010)
the duo will do a 6s at 5amps on each side, ive done it, make sure you got a hell of a PS because the 30amp unit we were using crashed afterwards...

but agian anything other than hyperion is just about sub-par these days, once you get a hyperion nothing else compares....

This is true, I have used most of the decent chargers available, and hyperion is my choice. I have about $450 in chargers and 60 in $PS (hehehe)

BP-Revo 05.29.2009 02:04 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817139009

There is one with 70 amps on the 12V rail.

The difference is that many of the newer, high output power supplies use multiple 12V rails. Since I didn't want to deal with the complication of possibly having to parallel those into one output (and not knowing the power supply would be OK with me doing this) under the search I set the filter to show only power supplies with a single 12V rail. And a 650W power supply with only a single 12V rail will have some hefty current ratings.

Freezebyte 05.29.2009 12:42 PM

I love my Triton2 EQ and they make very good quality stuf. Everything I wanted including high amp charge rate. I didn't wanna deal with having a seperate PSU just to power the charger, I prefer ease of use in all one package.

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m.../emptybats.jpg

mistercrash 05.29.2009 01:12 PM

This is the charger I use and I like it a lot. Very simple to use, up to 10S and up to 3C charge.

http://www.fmadirect.com/new_applica...0s_charger.htm

TexasSP 05.29.2009 01:51 PM

The tritons are nice but I still prefer the hyperions over all else. I have used MRC chargers, ICE chargers and Tritons along with the hyperions.

My hyperions are just stout and simple. MRC are just junk. I have owned several and all have failed. The only thing I don't have is the higher wattage because I have two AC/DC 0606I's. At them time I was in an apartment and didn't want to take up more space with a PS. Now however I would opt for the duo and a PS.


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