BL Revo 3.3 compared to 8ight-T
 

Hello !
I have a Revo 3.3 converted with MM and Medusa 36-60-2000 (IIRC).
Now I have the option to buy a 8igth-T 1.0 Roller, plan would probably be to run MMM, Medusa from above and 4S.

Would the 8ight be a better (more robust) basher, jumper ?
Would the Medusa be up to the task ?

The 8 will be a ton stronger, better handling, fliy straighter and more level!

The 8ight-t is all around better. I used to be a MT guy but ever since I've gotten into truggies I never even thought of getting a MT again. The 60mm will be up to the task if you keep it light, but if it's over 10 or 11lbs consider getting a 70mm.

With the 60mm keep the speeds low and it should be ok, I have a 70mm 1600kv that I have run in my RC8T on 5s, it gets into the 150's on the track geared for about 35. I would recomend no more than 30MPH for the 60mm to keep things cool.

Just from my experience watching the Truggy guys at the track... they are WAAY better handling, WAY tougher, like E-revonut said, they fly STRAIGHT off the jumps, and seem like they have some sort of anti-gravity device in them that keeps them level and always landing on their feet!

I am getting a truggy soon. Most likely a 8T 2.0

Where are you planning on getting the roller, btw?

Truggy...period. Revo is nice for a MT class or for beginners. If you plan to get serious in bashing or doing any club racing, the 8T 1.0 is a serious machine. Will turn on a dime.

Just for comparison's sake, I turned out a for my quickest lap time, a 44.9 sec lap... and the best lap I saw for the truggies was 39.8 secs. That's huge.

I run my Revo 3.3 BL usually about 1 sec behind my truggy on average lap times.

I'm a beginner... and the truggy guys are extremely good, well practiced! The track is set up for them, IMO.

1 second behind? Either you are really good with the Revo, or your tuggy driving skills aren't the greatest. :whistle:

Yup...only 1 second behind. :eyes:

Anyone else going to barnstormers for the 12th or the 26th?? Should be a blast.. I will be down most likely w/ my 8b & 8t w/ the anti-gravity and turbo brushless stabilizers charged and ready.....

May even bring the e-revo and hyper mini STe just in case :)

Thanks guys, the 8-T it is then, the truggy will be bought locally here in Sweden.
Can I use the same motor mount as for the 8-B ? I cant find any 8-T specific one in the shop.

The 8b motor mount will bolt right up.

PS ya i've been racing my e-revo for about a year now and can beat most truggies but I'm also a full second faster when I drive my 8t truggy vs my erevo... 8t takes a TON more of a beating vs the erevo as well.. e-revo is a great truck, but on the track even dialed in, she breaks too much vs a good truggy (8ight-t in this case). Having a 8ight buggy, truggy and the e-revo for racing on a track the e-revo is my last choice.

PS that medusa 60mm motor is great in the buggy, but it's not quite enough for an 8ight-t iMO, so gear it down to 35mph max top speed if you want it to last for any length of time.

Thanks for the info on the Medusa.
I got a 8-B with a Neu 1512 2d/s and the current Revo with my Medusa 36-60-2000.
Would the it be good idea to run the 1512 in the 8-T and the Medusa in the 8-B ?
Or would the Neu also be a bit small for the 8-T ?

The 1512 would be better than the medusa in the 8ight-t on 4s. The kv is a bit high but it'll work until you can get a larger motor.

Well since I am very happy with the Neu in my buggy and I dont want to fry it I guess it will have to stay in the buggy.
What would be a good choice for the 8-T on 4S, CC 2200 ? or a Medusa ? (Neu is a bit pricey since I will bash it only).

Depends on how good your packs are. I'd choose a medusa 70-2300 for 4s or a CC 2200.

I run Zippy 4S 20-30C, they tend to run a bit hot in my 8-B with the 1512.

What mah?

Ahhh sorry 5000 mAh

Yeah, that pack would get warm I am sure. Have you thought about picking up a bigger battery, or just better quality/higher C rating?

Well not really unless I have to, I got 4 of them and one PQ 5000mAh.
For my use PQ is too pricey.
I guess I might have to go for new packs with the tryggy, any suggestion on Zippy or similar cells for the truggy. I will use the MMM so 5S or 6S is ok.

Bashing with the 8T, I'd use a 1515/2.5D on 5s geared for 40. That would be a killer combo.

How many packs do you need/want?

Well depends on the mAh rating and run time, I would say 2 or 3.

Go for some neu or hyperion packs, both well priced.

If you want one of the best packs, go for Hyperion, very good prices. These things will throw your truck around like a hairy monkey would throw around a lazy hooker.

4s 5500mah 35C/65C pack - $172

5s 4200mah 35C/65C pack - $165

4s 5000mah 25C/45C pack - $128

5s 5000mah 25C/45C pack - $160

I run 5s Zippy-h 5000mAH packs in my 8ight-t on a Neu 2.5d every day racing, they are more than enough and only 100ea if you want to save money. Ive had these for about 1/2 a year now anyway.

Hyperion also claims 4x (up to 5x) longer cycle life with the G3 packs. They are superbly matched packs, and use a new nano-manufacturing technique(although not 'truly' nano tech).... if that entices you at all.

Thank for all the suggestions, I guess I will sell the Revo with either a 8XL or my Medusa. And then get a new motor and new lipos for the truggy. I will probably stick with Zippy's.

Would it be a bad idea to swap out all my 4S pack to 5S and also run my 8-B with 1512 2d/s on 5S ? (I like the idea of sharing packs between my cars)

5s on 2550Kv 1512.... it will work yah, might run a tad warm, however. That's 47,000rpm.

I'm running a 1512/3D (1700kv.) on 6s (40,000rpm), and it runs 130F at the track... and around 140F - 150F max bashing. It should be alright, not ideal, but alright.

I guess taking shorcuts will only be more expensive in the long run.

If I go with the CC 2200 motor on the 8-T would 5S be ok or is a lower kv Medusa 70 a better option ?
STUM: What ratings are your 5S Zippy's ?

Zippy-h are 20-30c

so w/ 5k (5000*20c=100amps, 5000*30c=150amps)

On a 4s setup as these are borderline depending on your gearing, but w/ 5s (18.5v) they are perfect w/ my Neu geared for around 38-40mph. I would be cautious using any battery around this level (20c) if you are going to be doing crazy gearing go for land speed records as the sustained and burst could exceed what the battery can provide.

Any suggestion as to what motor to run in an 8-T on 5S, CC 2200 or a Medusa 70mm ?
Please also suggest what Medusa, if that is the perfered choice.

With a CC2200kv motor you won't be able to gear it low enough on 5s for usable speeds on a track, might be ok for bashing though. 1600kv Medusa is a good canidate for 5s, the 2000kv might work with a 9T pinion but I would try the 1600kv. I have run the 1600kv in my RC8T truggy on 5s and it was almost perfect on 54/17 gearing, 54/16 would have been ideal though. If you are running a 46T spur 13 or 14T pinionwould prolly be ideal on a track. However this is all just my opinion and varies greatly depending on driving style and track or bashing use

The Neu 2.5d is ideal... the best motor around on a 5s setup. You may want to look at the tekin t8 kits too..