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Mentat 07.15.2009 02:51 AM

Pinion Gear... Whats up?
 
After running this 15t pinion gear for the last month or so with a 48t metal Spur gear, i noticed today that it started making a funny noise. after closer inspection i found this. Did I have the meshing to tight? Or did it just wear out? I ran it alot over the last month and always on the track. Thoughts, Ideals? Stock Losi Electric Conversion Pinion.



http://lh5.ggpht.com/_bLNWMgNn8IU/Sl...s800/Gear1.JPG

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_bLNWMgNn8IU/Sl...hmsE/Gear2.JPG

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_bLNWMgNn8IU/Sl...s800/Gear3.JPG

http://lh4.ggpht.com/_bLNWMgNn8IU/Sl...s800/Gear4.JPG

OZ-RUSTLER 07.15.2009 03:06 AM

What brand pinion is that? Is it Hot Racing?

Mentat 07.15.2009 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OZ-RUSTLER (Post 304619)
What brand pinion is that? Is it Hot Racing?

As stated above its a stock losi pinion it came in the Losi Electric Conversion Kit 15T

OZ-RUSTLER 07.15.2009 03:18 AM

I dont think that pinion is hardened.

Mentat 07.15.2009 03:27 AM

Yeah i dont think it is either, is it normal for a pinion to wear like that against a metal spur gear?

OZ-RUSTLER 07.15.2009 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mentat (Post 304623)
Yeah i dont think it is either, is it normal for a pinion to wear like that against a metal spur gear?

I wouldn't think so, after just a month.
How many packs have you run in a month?

Mentat 07.15.2009 04:13 AM

a good 15 or so

Arct1k 07.15.2009 06:48 AM

Yes if it isn't hardened well - Get an RCM pinion = problem solved

Dafni 07.15.2009 06:51 AM

Yep, it does look like it was not (properly) hardened. Just get a pinion from RC-Monster and you'll be fine.

brushlessboy16 07.15.2009 08:05 AM

Have seen many of thse, as stated-it comes from a poorly or un-hardened gear


like this:
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...1117081706.jpg

Finnster 07.15.2009 09:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dafni (Post 304635)
Yep, it does look like it was not (properly) hardened. Just get a pinion from RC-Monster and you'll be fine.

Yeps, buy cheap, buy twice. I have RCM pinions a few years old and have little wear. Don't bother w/ Losi, HPI, novak, etc.

nitrostarter 07.15.2009 10:35 AM

Maybe because those pinions are made to work with the Plastic 45T spur gear that comes with the kit.

lincpimp 07.15.2009 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 304650)
Maybe because those pinions are made to work with the Plastic 45T spur gear that comes with the kit.

Bingo...

As stated a rcm pinion will be your best bet. I had a talk with Mike a few weeks ago and he gave me the inside scoop on his pinions, and why they are superior. The metal that they are made of is better than any of the the other pinions, including rrp. Also consider that if you are running a 15t pinion with a 48t spur you have around 3:1 ratio, so you will have 3 times the wear on the pinion teeth vs the spur teeth. That is why the pinions wear out. Your mesh may have been a bit tight, I usually set the mesh by sound, if it is very noisy 10 to 1 it is a bit tight.

aqwut 07.15.2009 12:08 PM

RCM pinions are awesome!, works like a charm..

BL_RV0 07.15.2009 12:19 PM

I third that. RCM pinions are the best. RRP are also good, but support the monster! Novak pinions are also OK, they do hold up, but for the price just get a RCM pinion.

FG101C 07.15.2009 12:21 PM

I've never had a problem with Losi's, that's with a ton of track time using metal spur's. Plastic spur does not come with the kit either. In fact the Losi pinions are quieter for some reason too.

nitrostarter 07.15.2009 12:24 PM

You've also had your gear mesh set properly more than likely.

zeropointbug 07.15.2009 01:02 PM

Same here. I have pinions that are 2 years old now, and you would never be able to tell they are used.

Brian 07.15.2009 03:16 PM

my losi pinion wears alot too, not that much :surprised: but i have been kinda concerned. good know i can fix it :smile: hey Mentat, just curious, but have the dogbone ends of your or anybody else's center drive shafts worn very much on the pins? especially the front one. i've only had mine for acouple month and if U look at the pin from the top, it looks like its nearly half gone. you can definitly see a gap between the outdrive cup and the pin. just curious if this is common aor what i should do to fix, grease maybe, idk. thanks :mdr:

Mentat 07.15.2009 04:11 PM

i just ordered 2 more rcm pinions. thanks guys

FG101C 07.15.2009 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian (Post 304697)
my losi pinion wears alot too, not that much :surprised: but i have been kinda concerned. good know i can fix it :smile: hey Mentat, just curious, but have the dogbone ends of your or anybody else's center drive shafts worn very much on the pins? especially the front one. i've only had mine for acouple month and if U look at the pin from the top, it looks like its nearly half gone. you can definitly see a gap between the outdrive cup and the pin. just curious if this is common aor what i should do to fix, grease maybe, idk. thanks :mdr:

Yes the front center pin wears fast because of the angle it sits at. Mugen makes some nice pins you can use the repin the driveshaft with.

Brian 07.15.2009 05:20 PM

Thanks fg101c, ill look into it :)

himalaya 07.16.2009 02:13 AM

brushlessboy16, what brand pinion is it in your pic? That doesn't look like a Losi one for it has a much larger set screw ?


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