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T-Bro 08.01.2009 09:17 AM

NEU 1527/1.5D + 6s = UNBELIEVABLE!!
 
I finally put my NEU motor in my E-Maxx with a 6s 5000mah 25c TP lipo and I'm speechless! I really have to be sensitive with the throttle because even with wheelie bars it will flip over like an acrobat! Also for the first time since making it soo heavy I can get it to pop wheelies, in second gear, with the truck already on the move. My truck weighs over 17lbs, and my gearing is 22/66 and this motor won't even break a sweat? (I can grab the motor after about 6/8 minutes and it's barely even warm).
I'm doing a major tune up on it today and I'll post some photos hopefully by the end of the day. If I run it Sunday at the strip I'll post a video so you can see this motor in action for yourself.
The hardest thing to believe is that this motor can handle up to 10s! Yeah and real soon, I'm going to get a esc so that I can do just that... run 10s. I know it will be uncontrollable...:whistle: but who cares! lol.

BL_RV0 08.01.2009 10:45 AM

Yeah, a 10S setup on that beast would be awesome. Which ESC are you going to use? A LT-10S?

T-Bro 08.01.2009 11:16 AM

Probably the mgm that can handle 30cells/10s. Don't know much about this one you named. Is it good? Also how much, and how many amps is it?

_paralyzed_ 08.01.2009 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Bro (Post 309261)
Probably the mgm that can handle 30cells/10s. Don't know much about this one you named. Is it good? Also how much, and how many amps is it?

Lutach, a long standing member here had some esc's made, a 6s 200 amp and a 10s 150 amp (I believe) Someone will provide a link, that is the LT10S he is talking about

Even a 100amp 10s is good for 3700 watts (37v x 100 amp = 3700 watts) which equals 4.9 horsepower. I doubt you will pull anywhere close to that kind of load with your setup.

Remember, as volts go up amps go down (with same gearing, higher gearing may be possible with increased voltage, but is unecessary due to higher motor rpm)

What's_nitro? 08.01.2009 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 309271)
Remember, as volts go up amps go down (with same gearing, higher gearing may be possible with increased voltage, but is unecessary due to higher motor rpm)

I'd like to modify that statement just a tad... I think it should read "when geared for the same speed". I know that's what you meant but some less experienced person might read it and have their truck unintentionally geared for 80mph. :smile:

T-Bro 08.01.2009 12:57 PM

Quote:

Even a 100amp 10s is good for 3700 watts (37v x 100 amp = 3700 watts) which equals 4.9 horsepower
This is the biggest area I'm studying right now. I am pretty green in this area but I'm learning.
So (37v x 150 amp = 5500 watts) which would equal around 6.6 Horsepower?

BrianG 08.01.2009 01:09 PM

Actually, 5500w is closer to 7.5HP; 1HP=746w.

But it's toque that's amazing, and right at 0 rpm too. 150A on that motor with your gearing is almost 6 ft-lbs.

At any rate, that's gonna be peak specs, you won't pull that during normal running.

T-Bro 08.01.2009 01:42 PM

ha ha always stick with your first answer! I thought it was around 7.2 or something like that. Wow that is a lot of torque! Now if I could just find this guy in my area ready to do this pullout with me, I can put it to the ultimate test!

brushlessboy16 08.01.2009 05:50 PM

what diffs are you running in that thing?

on 10s i dont think any set of diffs will enjoy it

Raze ST Truggy 08.01.2009 05:54 PM

The LT-10 that I have right here in front of me says LT-10S-120 amp. So only 4440 watts :-)

-Brian

What's_nitro? 08.01.2009 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raze ST Truggy (Post 309352)
The LT-10 that I have right here in front of me says LT-10S-120 amp. So only 4440 watts :-)

-Brian

Awe crap! ....... :na:

T-Bro 08.02.2009 09:26 AM

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what diffs are you running in that thing?
I'm using the 1/8scale Kyosho buggy diffs. They are pretty durable as far as I've seen so far. The trans is 100% aluminum gearing as well. In simple terms... there is not a part on my truck that hasn't been upgraded! From bumper to bumper it's upgraded.

aqwut 08.02.2009 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 309271)

Even a 100amp 10s is good for 3700 watts (37v x 100 amp = 3700 watts) which equals 4.9 horsepower. I doubt you will pull anywhere close to that kind of load with your setup.

True, even with 12S on my 22+ 1/5th scale with a low KV motor it barely pulled more than 60Amps... even tied to a poll and giving her full throttle... But with 8S and Hot motor on the firehammer 1480 (2280HA) it was pulling more than 200 Amps.. darn wires were hot as heck... And that's the 10 AWG from RobotMarketPlace... I'd love to see a videoo T-Bro... I have a 1527 (850Kv) all ready for 12S... on an 18 pounder..

T-Bro 08.02.2009 12:42 PM

That's good info. If it stops raining today I will have a video to post by tonight and that's a promise. Here's a couple of photos.
<a target='_blank' href='http://www.slide.com/s/IAO4cA9x0j-qj1dBhnYCilg9Ar6wxkro?referrer=hlnk'><img src='http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/1/W/160b3aeb/1/148/XJjx2x4H2j8uHYeY0115t7iqUdUAWK1U.jpg' border='0' alt='DSC09691motor' title='DSC09691motor' /></a>
<a target='_blank' href='http://www.slide.com/s/JJstFlCl6j-Q6fVhxNRZ_nf3UFS4Ny8b?referrer=hlnk'><img src='http://widget.slide.com/rdr/1/1/1/W/160b3aec/1/216/Z20P8zw36j_7Tbv8oJ45oeAV0qL9a80X.jpg' border='0' alt='DSC09688 truck' title='DSC09688 truck' /></a>

suicideneil 08.02.2009 01:55 PM

That motor is gargantuan...

T-Bro 08.02.2009 05:54 PM

I finally have some video footage! not the best because i'm just getting a feel for the throttle but it'll do 4 now. I will do some editing after I cut my lawn and see if I can have it finished by 2nite.

What's_nitro? 08.02.2009 08:03 PM

T-Bro, is it possible to turn the ESC the other way and shorten the wires? It might just be me, but the 8" long motor wires make me cringe... :whistle:

T-Bro 08.02.2009 10:29 PM

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T-Bro, is it possible to turn the ESC the other way and shorten the wires?
Well as Obama has showed us "ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE" lol. Yeah I know they are extremely long I'm already on it... I have just been far to busy to do all the work it's gonna take to possibly relocate it right behind the motor where my receiver box is so they will be as short as possible. The only reason I hate to move it is because I have a fan mount and a fan mounted to the chassis on the side it's on. It's going to take a lot of time and work to get it to fit on the other side as well as it does where it is and time just hasn't been my friend lately lol.
Haven't got to edit the video yet but I will asap. Soon as I do I'll post the video on this thread.

What's_nitro? 08.02.2009 10:58 PM

You could keep it in the same spot to use the fan, just face the motor leads toward the motor so they can be shortened.

aqwut 08.03.2009 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by T-Bro (Post 309505)
I finally have some video footage! not the best because i'm just getting a feel for the throttle but it'll do 4 now. I will do some editing after I cut my lawn and see if I can have it finished by 2nite.

Awesome, I really want to see this...

dkexige 08.04.2009 12:39 AM

Tagged to see the video :yes:

.dk

BL_RV0 08.04.2009 10:27 AM

Where.... is.... the.... VIDEO! :angel:

T-Bro 08.04.2009 06:34 PM

I'm editing it now... not a pro at making vids so bear with me.

T-Bro 08.04.2009 09:09 PM

Here's the video. The next one will be much better because I think I know how to walk it now lol.
ENJOY!
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What's_nitro? 08.04.2009 09:44 PM

Yep. It does have a bit of torque. :mdr:

dkexige 08.04.2009 10:11 PM

Nice! Very good job to keep it rolling. I wonder what else you could do to keep it on the ground. Extend the wheel base with a monoblock and maybe setback arms?

.dk

BL_RV0 08.04.2009 10:15 PM

Very nice.

What's_nitro? 08.04.2009 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dkexige (Post 310187)
Nice! Very good job to keep it rolling. I wonder what else you could do to keep it on the ground. Extend the wheel base with a monoblock and maybe setback arms?

.dk

..... 3' long wheelie bar? :yes:

aqwut 08.04.2009 10:25 PM

Great Video man!!!.. Great sounds to go with it too...

Rivermaxx 08.05.2009 12:34 AM

Cool vid! What chasis is that ? It looks like a rare UE lightning chassis with somebodys elses braces. You should get a monoblock it might help with the wheelies not too mention the proper braces which by design made too increase the strength of that awesome chassis.

T-Bro 08.05.2009 07:03 PM

THANKS! I'm glad you like it. Like I said the next one will be much better...
Quote:

What chasis is that ? It looks like a rare UE lightning chassis with somebodys elses braces
You hit the nail on the head. I actually purchased the very last one they ever sold... (can you believe that)??
Now what the heck is a monoblock and where can I find one?? You uys have me really curious now... lol

suicideneil 08.05.2009 07:43 PM

UE mono block chassis extension:

http://www.unlimitedengineering.com/...ore/13236.html

T-Bro 08.06.2009 06:58 PM

HOT! Can 1 be put in the front and the back??

BP-Revo 08.06.2009 07:17 PM

Back only. In the front it would interfere with the steering bellcrank assembly. However, you could theoretically put two in the back, but it would put a lot of stress on things cause of the length. Personally, I think one would be plenty since your truck is so heavy and it will push the center of mass forward.

That's a huge motor and it puts out some power for sure!

Rivermaxx 08.06.2009 07:52 PM

Heres some on my trucks: notice the UE setback arms for use with racerx suspension only.Also helps with wheelies.
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...x/CIMG2126.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...x/CIMG2124.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s...x/CIMG0808.jpg

T-Bro 08.07.2009 07:01 AM

I will be getting one soon. does ue sell the longer drive shaft I will need?

Kcaz25 08.07.2009 09:24 AM

Yep follow the description and links to find the right one.

I can't see the video.

Rivermaxx 08.07.2009 10:13 AM

Will that drive shaft work with the lightning chassis? Im really not sure but I do think the thunder and the lighning are the same length but not sure about the placment of the trans. What length shaft do you have now? A UE rear titaniam shaft for a thunder is 100.5 mm I think.

T-Bro 08.07.2009 03:35 PM

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I can't see the video.
That's wierd... Everyone else can.... It's on the second page...

I'm not sure the length of my rear shaft. There's only 1 way to find out! lol.

Kcaz25 08.08.2009 10:49 AM

Yes I forgot I was on a crappy computer, on mine now... NICE! Wheelies EVERYWHERE

The UE mono block page explains everything...


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