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Metallover 08.15.2009 04:33 PM

Getting into the 8th scale world
 
I'm getting tired with all my 10th scales, and my interests are changing. I'm really liking E-bikes. I want to get rid of $600 of 10th scale stuff and buy one 8th scale.

I would be bashing only. I want something really fast and durable for huge jumps. I was thining a buggy, mmm, 4-6s lipo.

Or maybe I'll want to go for a monster truck? A truggy? I want something durable and I heard the buggys are pretty good... Would that translate to truggies too? And a savage is pretty durable, but it won't be as fast as a buggy..

Let me know what your thoughs are. It's a pretty general thread, but I want some opinions. I'll probably run a MMM.

wallot 08.15.2009 04:43 PM

buggy = racer
truggy = racer

for huge jumps get monster truck. with high power Brushless it can be crazy and fun

BrianG 08.15.2009 05:01 PM

I had the same question a while back. I sold my converted revo because it was kinda difficult to work on and the diffs were weak. I wanted something monstertruck-ish (ground clearance, durability, etc), but with ease of repairs and simplicity. So, I opted for a truggy that I jacked up the suspension a little. I ended up getting an xray XT8 truggy, replaced the shocks with Jamming X2 shocks (longer and bigger bore), and removed the sway bars (has little benefit when the suspension is pretty stiff. I couldn't be happier now. It is very durable and easy to fix when things do break. WOrks very well for bashing, but still works good on a track when I'm just playing around (not actually in a race).

bigboi146 08.15.2009 05:07 PM

I'd say get a truggy best of both worlds. It has a little extra clearance over a buggy for bashing and they are extremely tough.

gtxracer 08.15.2009 05:15 PM

MTs are cool and have their place. A Savage Flux would suit you well but so would a truggy. You can bash them pretty well without breakage. It just depends on what you're going to do more - fast paced bashing and handling or huge jumps and large obstacles.

brushlessboy16 08.15.2009 05:16 PM

revo might be your truck then.. can be set up "sort of" like a truggy- low cg, flies well. and can take a beating.

Metallover 08.15.2009 05:32 PM

I haven't had good luck with revos.. Particularly the diffs. Right now I'm mixed between a MT and a Truggy. Would a truggy be noticably faster then a MT?

gtxracer 08.15.2009 06:01 PM

Truggies are meant to go fast and be stable at speed. They can handle MORE speed than a MT. The actual speed depends on your setup.

Metallover 08.15.2009 06:18 PM

I'm looking at the RX8 or the MMM. What could I get, over 50mph on 6s?

magman 08.15.2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 313392)
I haven't had good luck with revos.. Particularly the diffs. Right now I'm mixed between a MT and a Truggy. Would a truggy be noticably faster then a MT?

That is exactly why I opted for Mike's v3 diff kit:yes: when I did my conversion

gtxracer 08.15.2009 06:39 PM

Yes over 50mph on 6s. You would have a lot of torque too.

skellyo 08.15.2009 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 313398)
I'm looking at the RX8 or the MMM. What could I get, over 50mph on 6s?

Stock gearing on my Savage Flux with 6S using Badlands tires was 53.4mph across a low grass field. So yeah, I'd say 50mph is cake.

Metallover 08.15.2009 07:15 PM

The savage flux is looking really good because it's the best deal, really. If I end up buying new. Figure 280 for a MMM and then figure 400 for a kit, that's a lot more then the flux.

I do like the truggy idea because I can use my 4s zippy without splitting it up between the two trays if the battery is in just one tray. If I can find a truggy roller for $200, then drop $280 on a MMM, the Truggy is the better deal. I would want to lock the center diff and I'd be set.

Are you guys sure the buggy isn't bash worthy? It would have the most speed and I already have a set of tires I could use on it...

brushlessboy16 08.15.2009 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 313398)
I'm looking at the RX8 or the MMM. What could I get, over 50mph on 6s?

do the lst diff mod. 40 bucks for bullet proof diffs:yes:

gtxracer 08.15.2009 07:44 PM

Buggies are pure track machines. Sure, they'll do okay in bash mode, but you'll want the bigger tires, wider stance (stability), and ground clearance.

Check the forums at RCTech. There's a guy selling two brand new RX8s for $160 each over there!!! I can give you his email if you want, he still has both. Combine that with a used Neu or similar motor and you're all set. I would suggest a used MBX5T for a great basher.

Bondonutz 08.15.2009 08:01 PM

The buggys are super durable, but lack ground clearance and the little tires only can do so much when off roading/bashing. But with a Truggy you'd have the simplistic layout of the buggy and be able to incorperate much larger MT sized tires. The diffs on any truggy are going to be BL ready with out any mods unlike some MT's.
If you decide on a MT a LST2 or even a Losi Muggy is a fine candidate. Rollers can easily be scored cheap via Ebay as well as any roller Truggy.
I couldn't pick between a MT or a Truggy,they each have their own apeal. Thats why I have 2 MT's and 2 Truggys and 2 Revos:yipi:

Krawlin 08.15.2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by gtxracer (Post 313415)
I would suggest a used MBX5T for a great basher.

I second that. I have a Mugen MBX5-T and love it. Handles great, very very tough, great quality, and you can get them cheap on RCT.

drkdgglr 08.16.2009 02:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metallover (Post 313392)
Right now I'm mixed between a MT and a Truggy

=Muggy

TexasSP 08.16.2009 09:55 AM

MT+Truggy=Muggy

My next suggestion would be LST2 over a Revo, I have both and with the exception of running them on a track together the LST2 reigns supreme. I am also pretty sure though that with some suspension tweaks the LST2 could handle the revo just fine on the track as well. Never had a savage myself but from what I hear I think the handling issue would irritate me, other than that they seem to be stout trucks.

JThiessen 08.16.2009 02:24 PM

Flux, Truggy, or LST2.....

I'd like to figure out how to give my 8T more lift - Brian, did you do a thread on yours?

One option is to see if you can find front and rear diff/arm assy's off an RC8T on Ebay, and buy mikes chassis for it. I'd guess that would put you somewhere between 275 and 350 without electronics if you can get a deal on the front and rears.

In my own experience, the Flux is 100 times more durable than any 10th scale I've had, and the jury is still out on the Truggy, as I havent had enough time to run mine to get a good opinion. I can tell you that they dont have the jaw dropping wheely producing drivetrain that the MT's do, and at first I was a littel concerned about it, but after a couple times running the truggy, it is fast, just in a much smoother manner.


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