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Metallover 08.22.2009 09:35 PM

Modern Metal Music Discussion
 
With all the new metal coming out, all I can say is :neutral:. The vocals are slower and they don't have any emotion behind them. I like the old stuff.

Some of this new stuff is losing the touch that made the bands popular.

Metallica (Death Magnetic)
Slayer (World Painted Blood)
Children of Bodom (Blooddrunk)
All That Remains (Overcome)
Avenged Sevenfold (Avenged Sevenfold)

Nothing against these bands, they are amazing bands, but the music has just lost its.. melody? Seems like the vocals don't go with the music on some of the songs. It's become more about speed then anything else. Some of the bands stop playing music and just try to play fast; some of them have softened up. It sucks.

Really the only new stuff I like is by lamb of god. Their new album is called Wrath, and it is avery bit as good if not better then their old stuff. Listen to Reclamtion. At about 3:40 in the lyrics are awesome.

What do you guys think about all the new metal music coming out Nowdays?

jayjay283 08.22.2009 09:37 PM

new metal blows, its all gummed up with pearl jam riffs

Slayer - Angel of death

Bondonutz 08.22.2009 10:01 PM

I'm so F'in old, I read the post and a Deep Purple riff just went through my head and it was undeniably better.
When I was a kid, I was lulled to sleep with Zeppelin via 45's. So what do I know ?

TexasSP 08.22.2009 10:35 PM

The problem with most new metal is that it's all drop d, noisy riffs with no really good rythms or melodies, and horrible vocals. I don't mine screaming and death metal style vocals, but make them good.

The other thing about most new metal is that it all sounds virtually the same and is predictable. I can't stand being able to predict where a song is going to go the first time I listen to it, I want some changes, some spontaneity, some creativity, and so on.

Of metal bands over the past 40 years here are some ones I think really have their own sound.

Obviously the Kings Black Sabbath,

Merciful Fate, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Deep Purple, Motorhead, Slayer, Anthrax, DRI, Suicidal Tendencies, Pantera, Metallica, Sepultura (after the first few slayer-esque albums), Soulfly, White Zombie (never will I understand why Rob Zombie went on his own, Sean, Jay, and John made that band along with Rob's vocals when they didn't crack), Korn, Corrosion of Conformity, Soilent Green, Clutch (these guys just put a whole new sound in the mix), Vision of Disorder, Prong, Zakk Wylde (Black Label Society), Mushroom Head, Meshuggah, Demon Hunter, The Dillinger Escape Plan (what a site to see live!), Norma Jean, Maylene and The Sons of Disaster, Faith No More (really anything with Mike Patton involved, he is one of the best vocalists ever, period)

There are many more but these are my highlights off the top of my head.

magman 08.22.2009 10:40 PM

I "grew up" in the 80's so the metal bands of the 80's and 70's are much better than today's metal IMO. I will listen to almost any music, but metal gets the motor running per say.

Funny this came up..late the other night I was listening to a Iron Maiden special when they were on tour a couple of yrs. ago...07' I believe. They played a 1/2 hr. mini. concert and they still can rock! Brought me back a decade or two...

jayjay283 08.22.2009 10:41 PM

CoC long forgotten now found, Id give $500 for my old jacket with a CoC sticker on it and the metallica patch. viva las 80's

magman 08.22.2009 10:51 PM

Yeah jaj jay I truly miss the 80's as well. Music and culture.

Foxracin 08.22.2009 11:21 PM

3 words. Lamb Of God.:yipi:

Metallover 08.22.2009 11:29 PM

I think lamb of god will be a classic metal band in the years to come. Really the only band making great stuff. Nothing really compares to Lamb of God either. Very unique.

One other band should be mentioned, System of a Down. One of my favorites. Not the most hardcore metal band, but amazing to say the least. Too bad they split; hope they re-unite some day.

Like the lyrics (politial views about government and iraq), image (biblical), guitar (awesome odd riffs), and just the style of music.

However good lamb of god is, I don't think any music period will compare the the glory days of Metallica, Slayer, Pantera, Bodom,,,, I'd mention Sabbath but I haven't listened to much of them... All I know is that they make some great music and you can pretty much say they started the metal genre.

emaxx 101 08.22.2009 11:40 PM

I agree with Metallover, Lamb of God is classic. However, I went to the death magnetic concert and quite liked it, but I couldn't hear anything for a couple of days after :lol:

simplechamp 08.23.2009 12:10 AM

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There's a special place in my heart for Dio :whistle: This video is awesome

redshift 08.23.2009 12:15 AM

A small sampling of my late 80s early 90s, minus a lot of the more obscure bands... followed by my album picks.

Savatage- every album up to "Streets", Mr. Oliva passed soon after
Faith No More- Angel Dust, Epic
(and yes Mr. Bungle :)
King Diamond- Them, Abigail, The Eye
Coroner- Grin, Mental Vortex
Death- Spiritual Healing, Leprosy
Kreator- anything pre-2000
In Flames- pre-2000 better IMO
Arch Enemy- older and newer (Angela would eat James Hetfield for a snack)
Carcass- mid 90s
Prong- Beg To Differ, Rude Awakening, Sirius Rising
Soundgarden- Badmotorfinger, Louder Than Love
Joe Satriani- ALL
Deftones- the "Around The Fur" years
Type O- most of it
Pantera- CFH, Vulgar Display
Slayer- Reign In Blood, Hell Awaits, SoH, SitA
Megadeth- Peace Sells, SFSGSW, Rust In Peace, Countdown
Annihilator- Alice In Hell
Hypocrisy- mid 90s and up
Amorphis- Tales From The Thousand Lakes
Warrior Soul- Drugs, God and the New Republic, Ghetto Nation
Maiden- Seventh Son, Somewhere In Time, Piece of Mind, Powerslave
Testament- late 80s to mid 90s
Napalm Death- early 90s
Metal Church- Blessing In Disguise
Cro-Mags- late 80s
Ministry- Psalm 69
Overkill (the supposed fathers of thrash) late 80s to early 90s
Kyuss- mid 90s

I am forgetting so many....

I'll throw in one of my old favorite slowgrind tracks...

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What's_nitro? 08.23.2009 05:33 AM

Talk about going soft, have you heard Fear Factory lately? :no: Horrible...

I definitely like the newer metal better than pre-90's stuff. Most of my collection is post-2000 though. If you like lots of melody look into Hell Within and/or The Autumn Offering. If you prefer hard and/or heavy sounds (like me) check out Kataklysm and/or Misery Index.

PBO 08.23.2009 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by TexasSP (Post 315206)

Obviously the Kings Black Sabbath,

Merciful Fate, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Deep Purple, Motorhead, Slayer, Anthrax, DRI, Suicidal Tendencies, Pantera, Metallica, Sepultura (after the first few slayer-esque albums), Soulfly, White Zombie (never will I understand why Rob Zombie went on his own, Sean, Jay, and John made that band along with Rob's vocals when they didn't crack), Korn, Corrosion of Conformity, Soilent Green, Clutch (these guys just put a whole new sound in the mix), Vision of Disorder, Prong, Zakk Wylde (Black Label Society), Mushroom Head, Meshuggah, Demon Hunter, The Dillinger Escape Plan (what a site to see live!), Norma Jean, Maylene and The Sons of Disaster, Faith No More (really anything with Mike Patton involved, he is one of the best vocalists ever, period)
.

Definitely

shaunjohnson 08.23.2009 07:11 AM

i like a GOOD song but it has to be old and a well known classic. i'm still 17 but for some wierd reason i dont do what other kids do, dont like parties (drunkeness etc), dont like "scream-o" music and i dont smoke dope LOL

i like the best songs that Queen made...they rocked!!

_paralyzed_ 08.23.2009 07:36 AM

not sure where primus fits, not really metal, but when I hear "Jerry was a racecar driver" I want to fly man.

Love SOAD

Zeppelin forever

I do miss actual vocals.

Just played the "Airheads" soundtrack yesterday. Lots of old weird rockin' songs. I miss playing drums, I had fast feet man............


oh yeah, Mettalica One!

Bondonutz 08.23.2009 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 315282)
not sure where primus fits, not really metal, but when I hear "Jerry was a racecar driver" I want to fly man.

I'm a super big fan of Primus and I don't know where they fit in either ?
Les Claypool is in a world all his own ?

Foxracin 08.23.2009 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 315227)
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There's a special place in my heart for Dio :whistle: This video is awesome

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jUkkhs3NCE

Here is the Killswitch Engage version if you havent heard it. First time I seen the video and its pretty cool. Ole boy drop kicks that ole bitch to the face. lol

Foxracin 08.23.2009 09:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 315273)
Talk about going soft, have you heard Fear Factory lately? :no: Horrible...

Have any links to some of there new stuff? they havent came out with a CD since 04/05.

That seems to be the new thing though. Going soft. Distrubed and Slipknot suck these day. They went wayyyy soft.

TexasSP 08.23.2009 10:13 AM

Primus has to be put in an eclectic little genre really all it's own, kind of like Les himself. The discussions between Metallica and Les about his original try outs with them after Jason died sums it up well. I love Primus, it's nice to have really talented musicians that don't fit any mold.

I also must put up that even to this day Ozzy is one of the best lyricists and vocalists ever. The poor guy can't speak worth a turd but when he sings it's just amazing. His lyrics always continue to be awesome and one of my favorite non-Sabbath songs is "I Just Want You".

What's funny is Ministry used to be my favorite band, but after Psalm 69 they have never put out anything else truly different or innovative. Of course Al Jourgensen being unable to stay off heroin has never helped. Al's biggest problem is he is continually running from a demon he can't seem to kick. But better than Psalm 69 was The Land of Rape and Honey and then The Mind is a Terrible Thing to Taste. I also think Al losing Paul Barker was a major hit as well.

eovnu87435ds 08.23.2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Foxracin (Post 315309)
That seems to be the new thing though. Going soft. Distrubed and Slipknot suck these day. They went wayyyy soft.

I have to agree with you there. To me, none of Disturbed's albums really compare to 10000 fists, only 1 song on that album could be considered 'soft.' I like the fact that it is metal, yet you can comprehend what theyre saying. I listened to some of their new stuff(post-Indestructible) and I didn't even finish listening to the song, let alone even consider downloading it.

Some of my favorite metal bands include
Metallica(the older stuff, the only song I like off of Death Magnetic is suicide & redemption)
Iron Maiden(You just can't not listen to songs like the Trooper, and Iron Maiden)
The Sword(the songs may all sound the same, but some good riffs)
SOAD
A7X(mostly the city of evil album)
Breaking Benjamin(yeah, alot is soft, but songs like blow me away are good)
Godsmack(Mostly the IV album)

You can't leave out the true classics like
Black Sabbath/Ozzy osbourne
Blue Oyster Cult
Deep Purple
Def Leppard
Guns n roses
the hendrix experience
Led Zeppelin (of course)
If someone were to ask me what my all time favorite band is, I'd have to say it's Zeppelin.


And if any metal band members see this, NO MORE WHINEY EMO SOFTIE CRAP! We don't care who's polls say whats better, stick to what you're good at.

simplechamp 08.23.2009 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxracin (Post 315308)
Here is the Killswitch Engage version if you havent heard it. First time I seen the video and its pretty cool. Ole boy drop kicks that ole bitch to the face. lol

Actually this is the real video for the Killswitch cover. Not sure who made that other version.

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Foxracin 08.23.2009 11:44 AM

Well I stand corrected. Cool song either way.

MetalMan 08.23.2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Foxracin (Post 315309)
That seems to be the new thing though. Going soft. Distrubed and Slipknot suck these day. They went wayyyy soft.

Slipknot has definitely gone soft... I like their newer album for the most part, and really wish they would remaster Iowa and their self-titled albums. The main reason I don't listen to those older albums is 'cuz their quality (and volume level) is so crappy.

Anybody listen to All Shall Perish or Whitechapel? They are both more modern death metal/deathcore, and are my favorite bands right now. Kataklysm is also great, as is Chimaira, but I've listened to those bands a bit much :neutral:

emaxx 101 08.23.2009 03:29 PM

Born of Osiris is my favorite hardcore metal band, awsome music. They're young so they'll be making good music for a long time.

rabosi 08.24.2009 11:17 AM

Tool
Alice in Chains

Not your classic heavy metal but unique sound none the less.

hemicuda11 08.24.2009 01:28 PM

I agree most new metal sucks, but I do like Augury.


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