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lutach 11.10.2009 01:36 PM

What the hell is BK doing????
 
I was just browsing the shop to see if any new car controllers were coming out and surprise...surprise....

http://www.bk-electronics.com/catalo...p?cPath=36_212

What a shame BK.

skellyo 11.10.2009 01:49 PM

Wow, extremely overpriced Hobbywings!

lutach 11.10.2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skellyo (Post 332180)
Wow, extremely overpriced Hobbywings!

Exactly...I wonder how many have they sold at that price :lol:.

ANGRY-ALIEN 11.10.2009 02:24 PM

That's so sad... I wonder if they're using their own firmware... and they even branded them BK.:whip:

_paralyzed_ 11.10.2009 02:33 PM

but these have a sensored option. Last I checked the hobbywings didn't have that. Still looks like a hobbywing to me though.

Unsullied_Spy 11.10.2009 02:38 PM

:lol: That's really low, and very stupid if they actually think someone will pay that.

lutach 11.10.2009 03:12 PM

I really thought a company such as BK would do their own controllers. Now they sell Hobbywing stuff and Suppo as well.

Bondonutz 11.10.2009 03:22 PM

Never would have thought it :no:

Finnster 11.10.2009 03:46 PM

Lameass... what a fall

jhautz 11.10.2009 03:55 PM

Well.... Even though its low end hobby wing, its still a huge step up from the totally outdated products they were selling. I think the controllers they were selling before were designed in 1990. :lol:

snellemin 11.10.2009 04:04 PM

I saw that and giggled a bit. They still offer the older warrior stuff.

simplechamp 11.10.2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 332189)
but these have a sensored option. Last I checked the hobbywings didn't have that. Still looks like a hobbywing to me though.

I think the 150A and 80A ones do have sensor ports on the ESC, but the motors they combo with them never have sensors

coolhandcountry 11.10.2009 05:32 PM

I wouldn't buy nothing bk sells.
There customer service made me a not want anything they sell any more.

The prices doesn't help either. :grrrrrr:

scarletboa 11.10.2009 10:56 PM

considering their prices and failure rates, i think this is a step up for them:lol:

What's_nitro? 11.10.2009 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 332211)
They still offer the older warrior stuff.

I thought the same. Looks like they may be updated a bit, might just be looks though.

Finnster 11.10.2009 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhautz (Post 332208)
Well.... Even though its low end hobby wing, its still a huge step up from the totally outdated products they were selling. I think the controllers they were selling before were designed in 1990. :lol:

And to think these were top of the line at one time...

Ohhh I can run 20 nimh cells..crazy!

Dafni 11.11.2009 04:44 AM

They are scumbags anyway. Believe me, I know what I'm talking about. Stay away from them.

jhautz 11.11.2009 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finnster (Post 332285)
And to think these were top of the line at one time...

Ohhh I can run 20 nimh cells..crazy!


I remember when that was the case. It was either the BK stuff or a flaming Schultz....

nitrostarter 11.11.2009 02:02 PM

I had a BK18120 in my Emaxx that went into my Revo, that went into my Jammin buggy and that is now in my friends converted Revo... But I would never buy another...

PBO 11.11.2009 04:40 PM

This reminds me of the Traxxas/Castle/Neu overpriced black CC/MMM combos...what are they $510 from Tower versus $300 for a green can

himalaya 11.13.2009 03:39 AM

I wonder why don't they get the newest version, with much slimmer form factor, HUGELY improved 4 pole 12 slot high efficiency motor, and a extremely COOL programming box w/ dot matrix LCD and black anodized aluminum case(love that stuff). I am talking about this one(just look at the pics and numbers you can read):

http://bbs.rcfans.com/viewthread.php...extra=page%3D1

lutach 11.13.2009 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 332789)
I wonder why don't they get the newest version, with much slimmer form factor, HUGELY improved 4 pole 12 slot high efficiency motor, and a extremely COOL programming box w/ dot matrix LCD and black anodized aluminum case(love that stuff). I am talking about this one(just look at the pics and numbers you can read):

http://bbs.rcfans.com/viewthread.php...extra=page%3D1

That program box will make somebody really happy. Good thing I was behind it. I put that idea here for Castle, but at the same time I was talking with Pan about it and he liked it. The most I got from Pan was a thank you and a few out dated products that I gave to a few local drivers, but for racing application it wasn't like the Xerun. I still remember the days I kept bugging Hobbywing to make a car controller and they kept saying "no", but one day Pan started asking for help and he put my other ideas to work pretty well. Now we see a few companies following with similar technology. I do have a few ideas that I'll use one day.

snellemin 11.13.2009 10:44 AM

Sucks when one takes your ideas and don't credit you for it. Happend to me here at work. Some other fool got a patent for it. My contract fine print states that all "ideas" are my companies property.

lutach 11.13.2009 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 332826)
Sucks when one takes your ideas and don't credit you for it. Happend to me here at work. Some other fool got a patent for it. My contract fine print states that all "ideas" are my companies property.

I know it sucks, but it's ok as long as I know who came up with it. Good things might come out of it though :lol:. I didn't let my best ideas go though. I'm also waiting for the new heat sink to get done and if it works, it'll be just the beginning of things to come.

snellemin 11.13.2009 10:52 AM

The heatsink will do me good in my pan cars.

lutach 11.13.2009 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snellemin (Post 332829)
The heatsink will do me good in my pan cars.

I hope it works without the aid of a fan. The boat guys will be happier as I was told a hybrid design could increase the percent of heat dissipation to a much higher level. I will test it first without the fan to see if with little airflow over it will be enough to get rid of the heat extracted from the FETs.

himalaya 11.17.2009 01:24 AM

Are you talking about the copper-aluminum hybrid heatsinks? Generally seen in big IC thermal management such as the CPU, laptop CPUs even use pure copper heatsinks. LRP employed that tech in some of it's new ESCs.

BrianG 11.17.2009 01:29 AM

IIRC, copper conducts heat well, but doesn't shed it as well as aluminum. And it oxidizes. And don't dissimilar metals have different expansion rates? I would think that would lead to seperation. In practice, all that's needed is a slightly larger heatsink, anodized to reduce oxidation. Either that, or simply don't run it that hard. On second thought, all we need are FETs with extremely low rdson values and switch instantly on and off with no rise/fall time. Heatsinks would be a thing of the past. :smile:

lutach 11.17.2009 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by himalaya (Post 333590)
Are you talking about the copper-aluminum hybrid heatsinks? Generally seen in big IC thermal management such as the CPU, laptop CPUs even use pure copper heatsinks. LRP employed that tech in some of it's new ESCs.

It's a mixture of copper with some other material. I don't think aluminum is in there. All I know it's capable of dissipating almost 2 times more heat then copper alone.


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