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josh9mille 03.14.2010 01:06 AM

Please help me stop breaking axles!
 
seriously on the average i break an axle with every set of batteries i run on my E Revo. today it was 2 axles with one set of batteries, and yesterday it was one axle (actually the axle yesterday and the 2 today were on the same charge) the day before that i didnt break any but the day before that i did break one. I have seriously broken soo many that i have lost count. Its getting old. ive got the slipper so it slips, my brakes are set at 30%, punch control set at 50% and i only run 4s. I dont drive my truck very hard with fear of breaking more axles! In fact axles are the ONLY THING i have broken on this truck. I am pretty close to buying a savage flux just so i can break something besides axles all the time! lol. But seriously....are you guys breaking them all the time too? or is it just me? .

nitrostarter 03.14.2010 01:12 AM

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXPNJ8&P=ML

Problem solved.

josh9mille 03.14.2010 01:20 AM

i think i have read a few different places that those are not as strong as the plastic ones.

revo guy 03.14.2010 01:35 AM

I have used them for almost a year with no serious issues. Although I did bend one when my friend drove my ERBE (BAD IDEA) and hit a soccer goal post at 3/4 throttle, along with breaking a pushrod. RPM arms didnt break tho. And other than that two of the dust boots tore.

I would strongly recommend them.

BUT, they can not be used if you are using LT rockers or your pushrods in the innermost hole.

josh9mille 03.14.2010 01:46 AM

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Originally Posted by revo guy (Post 354881)
I have used them for almost a year with no serious issues. Although I did bend one when my friend drove my ERBE (BAD IDEA) and hit a soccer goal post at 3/4 throttle, along with breaking a pushrod. RPM arms didnt break tho. And other than that two of the dust boots tore.

I would strongly recommend them.

BUT, they can not be used if you are using LT rockers or your pushrods in the innermost hole.

Why is that? Im running both the LT rockers AND have my rods in the inner hole lol.

George16 03.14.2010 01:48 AM

It's all about how you drive. You might not be driving it hard but you might be jerking the throttle instead of smooth and finesse touch. I still have to break any driveshafts on my converted revo which I ran with either 5 or 6S. Landing on throttle also will break your shafts and even diffs which I still have to break any either.

josh9mille 03.14.2010 01:53 AM

I dont jerk the throttle around, i like to think i opperate the throttle with linear motion. I have landed on the throttle accidently a FEW times, but only to correct myself when in the air and landed before i could get my finger to the nuetral position. BTW nice 'Runner you got there!

Semi Pro 03.14.2010 02:24 AM

loosen your slipper, that is what its for


i have been racing my brushless revo on 6 cell for 2 years and i have never broken an axle

josh9mille 03.14.2010 02:52 AM

i have it set so it slips, but i guess i could loosen it more.

simplechamp 03.14.2010 03:45 AM

I would try loosening the slipper first like suggested. You could get steel CVDs, but if you don't fix the true underlying problem you will just be fixing one weak point and the breakages will start happening at another point in the drivetrain. Diffs and trans gears are a much bigger PITA to replace than driveshafts.

shaunjohnson 03.14.2010 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 354878)
i think i have read a few different places that those are not as strong as the plastic ones.

i found them a lot tougher but didnt like them baceause when racing, if the bearing carriers came loose ever so slightly BAM! the dog bone hanf fell off and you just lost all drive (center diff).

i have been having continuing success with summit driveshafts, ive got about 6 months or more racing on them and they are only just starting to show signs of ware :yipi:
and since i run a center diff, i run my slipper all but locked, no it wont slip unless you put it up against a wall on bitumen on soft race tires and ping it.

revo guy 03.14.2010 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 354882)
Why is that? Im running both the LT rockers AND have my rods in the inner hole lol.

Because the design of all CVD's are unable to work with the huge amount of articulation the revo has when using LT rockers or rods in the inner hole.

Bondonutz 03.14.2010 12:19 PM

I run 5s w/plastic axles and only have broken 3 in the last year ?

I drive like a madman,jump,climb all the fun stuff.

Try loosening the slipper a bit more !!!!

Semi Pro 03.14.2010 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by simplechamp (Post 354894)
I would try loosening the slipper first like suggested. You could get steel CVDs, but if you don't fix the true underlying problem you will just be fixing one weak point and the breakages will start happening at another point in the drivetrain. Diffs and trans gears are a much bigger PITA to replace than driveshafts.

exactly


its alot cheeper to replace the slipper pads every season, than to replace the diff or a cvd every time you take it out:lol:

Deahttub 03.15.2010 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 354935)
I run 5s w/plastic axles and only have broken 3 in the last year ?

I drive like a madman,jump,climb all the fun stuff.

Try loosening the slipper a bit more !!!!



+1 slipper is too tight....I break axels...it's inevitable, but i havent broken an axel in months...

suicideneil 03.15.2010 10:13 PM

Is it cold where the OP lives/ snowing etc?

sikeston34m 03.15.2010 10:46 PM

I like stunt driving and POWER!

I've had several setups put together for the E Revo that seemed to break a plastic axle every other run.

The plastic axles ARE the weak point. My Truck always has the slipper really tight. That's the way I like it.

I don't use a slipper, I use tires. LOL

Over the past two years, this E Revo has seen many motor setups including some REAL power houses.

After breaking 4 plastic axles and a diff, the traxxas cvd's were installed, along with new diffs. No problem since!

The plastic center drives were replaced with new plastic center drives because the holes were getting stretched out.

Traxxas CVD's are a good step in bullet proofing your drivetrain. :yes:

josh9mille 03.17.2010 06:29 PM

Its not an issue anymore, i found out what the problem was. It turns out I had a traxxas product and I was driving it like it was an HPI product (i should have known better). So I bought a Savage Flux and I havent had any problems since. I must have fixed it!

Deahttub 03.17.2010 09:20 PM

Nice that's like going from a super model to a fat chick! Good luck with that !:lol:

josh9mille 03.17.2010 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Deahttub (Post 355909)
Nice that's like going from a super model to a fat chick! Good luck with that !:lol:

I guess I must have hit a nerve, sorry lol. But the new fat chick hasnt broken anything yet, I would have broken the "super model" at least 3 or 4 more times by now :na:

Deahttub 03.18.2010 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 355946)
I guess I must have hit a nerve, sorry lol. But the new fat chick hasnt broken anything yet, I would have broken the "super model" at least 3 or 4 more times by now :na:

Naa no nerve! Goodluck riding the moped!

shaunjohnson 03.18.2010 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 355885)
Its not an issue anymore, i found out what the problem was. It turns out I had a traxxas product and I was driving it like it was an HPI product (i should have known better). So I bought a Savage Flux and I havent had any problems since. I must have fixed it!

best quote ever :rofl:
i'm also looking to change up from revo platform, not because of weakness but because of landing large jumps, it comes down real hard compared to, say, an LST.
hehe....wonder if you can get a savage flux to handle!? :lol:

josh9mille 03.19.2010 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shaunjohnson (Post 356006)
best quote ever :rofl:
i'm also looking to change up from revo platform, not because of weakness but because of landing large jumps, it comes down real hard compared to, say, an LST.
hehe....wonder if you can get a savage flux to handle!? :lol:

It handles just like i remember a savage handling.....decent. Not great but just decent. I dont care that much about handling, I just like the fact that the Flux can actually handle the power it came with STOCK and then some.

shaunjohnson 03.20.2010 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 356065)
It handles just like i remember a savage handling.....decent. Not great but just decent. I dont care that much about handling, I just like the fact that the Flux can actually handle the power it came with STOCK and then some.

true true.
too bad the destructions are a shortcut to getting a noob into an ESC failure :neutral:
"can take more NIMH batteries than will even fit in the savage"...common HPI...WTF!! (traxxas too... :whip:)
to see what i mean, just look at the HPI or traxxas forums...noobs burn up a monster then blame it on castle because they were using 2x 6 cell 1600mah venom nimh batts :sarcastic:

josh9mille 03.20.2010 04:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaunjohnson (Post 356221)
true true.
too bad the destructions are a shortcut to getting a noob into an ESC failure :neutral:
"can take more NIMH batteries than will even fit in the savage"...common HPI...WTF!! (traxxas too... :whip:)
to see what i mean, just look at the HPI or traxxas forums...noobs burn up a monster then blame it on castle because they were using 2x 6 cell 1600mah venom nimh batts :sarcastic:

what are these NIMH batteries you speak of? I thought those things went out of style years ago? Its all about the NICAD's now! :rofl:

JThiessen 03.20.2010 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 355885)
Its not an issue anymore, i found out what the problem was. It turns out I had a traxxas product and I was driving it like it was an HPI product (i should have known better). So I bought a Savage Flux and I havent had any problems since. I must have fixed it!

Hmmmm - I was actually going to suggest just that, but held off 'cause I didn't want to ruffle the feathers here.

In the last year, I've just about cleared out my pile of spare Traxxas-Fix Or Repair Daily-Cant have enough spares-gotta run to the LHS stuff. Feels kinda good to go out and beat the living daylights out of your truck, and go home with your rig intact.

JThiessen 03.20.2010 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaunjohnson (Post 356006)
best quote ever :rofl:

hehe....wonder if you can get a savage flux to handle!? :lol:

That ain't gonna happen.....You can put better tires on it, lower it, and length the chassis, but then you have something that kinda hanldles, but has zero personality!

If you want handling AND reliability, get a truggy and convert it. You save a ton of money just in the first year.

josh9mille 03.20.2010 06:16 PM

honestly now that i have a few more hours runtime on the flux i am not complaining about the handling at all. It jumps a lot better than the revo did, and it doesnt do the gay "three wheel" around corners. Plus it doesnt break just by looking at it. I guess i just cant say that enough lol

JThiessen 03.20.2010 07:11 PM

I see that you also have an LST. What are your thoughts on the difference between the Flux and the LST?

George16 03.20.2010 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by josh9mille (Post 356359)
honestly now that i have a few more hours runtime on the flux i am not complaining about the handling at all. It jumps a lot better than the revo did, and it doesnt do the gay "three wheel" around corners. Plus it doesnt break just by looking at it. I guess i just cant say that enough lol

FLux jumping better than a revo :lol::lol:? It's all about the driver :yes::yes:.

josh9mille 03.20.2010 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JThiessen (Post 356367)
I see that you also have an LST. What are your thoughts on the difference between the Flux and the LST?

the LST is a great truck, handles very well, the arms are kinda weak but rpm arms took care of that. Its a lot bigger truck than the savage and its faster also. Mine has been sitting for about 4yrs and im about 80% sure im gonna do a BL conversion along with the XXL conversion. Already got another MMM laying around so i figure about 250 bucks should get me there.

edit: oops, i was kinda comparing the nitro savage to the LST. the flux is way faster than an LST. all the other stuff applies though lol


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