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FastXR 04.13.2010 12:44 PM

Cheap Brushless for Crawler ???
 
So I'm looking for a cheap brushless system for my crawler. Has anyone tried the ez run 35 amp with 32T motor in a crawler? I have a basically stock AX-10 that I use around the house and bring with to races to goof around with between races, so I dont need anything big dollar or competition but I dont want complete junk either. It looks like the ezrun can have 100% drag brake and the 32T motor looks about right too, what are your thoughts?

Arct1k 04.13.2010 12:52 PM

Sidewinder and a small outrunner perhaps or a used 2s goat

FastXR 04.13.2010 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 360065)
Sidewinder and a small outrunner perhaps or a used 2s goat

The ez-run won't get the job done? I previously had a Rooster and Integy 55t in it but traded the rooster for something else that I really needed at the time. I can get the ezrun combo for about $65 shipped? I have to think the sidewinder will run me more than that alone?

Semi Pro 04.13.2010 02:46 PM

sidewinder and a scorpion outrunner gets the job done nicely (scorpion is the manufacture that made the out runners for homes hobbies)

Arct1k 04.13.2010 03:06 PM

But you might as well get something that has support and will last when you want to get something better... I'd by Castle

FastXR 04.13.2010 03:26 PM

I agree that the castle would have the support and most likely be a much better choice, I was curious if anyone had tried the ez run.

So anyone got a sidewinder for sale cheap?

FastXR 04.13.2010 06:38 PM

OK so update here on this thread, I just picked up a used Mamba Max from Rawfuls on here, I think that will work nicely in my crawler (I hope so).

Can someone provide me with a link to a nice brushless motor, maybe the scorpion that was listed above or perhaps a part number for one that will work nicely on my AX-10? Im thinking of running on 2s, currently its setup for 6 cell Nimh, but if 3s is the way to go let me know and recommend motor for that setup. Thanks

FastXR 04.14.2010 10:44 AM

Arct1k, Semi Pro, anyone, what motor should I get to go with the MM in my crawler?

Arct1k 04.14.2010 10:51 AM

Check out holmes hobbies. Holmes is the man.

lincpimp 04.14.2010 11:21 AM

I like an 1100kv outrunner on 3s. My comp crawler had a 833kv motor on 3s, but it was a 28 series motor so it was a "bit" oversized. Finding an outrunner with a 25mm mount pattern and an 1/8 shaft is difficult, that is why holmes may be your best bet. Most 25mm pattern outrunners have 5mm shafts. I used 32p pinions and spurs on my comp crawler, but you have limited gearing going away from 48p.

I have used the small axi outrunners with an adapter plate to mount to the axial tranny. My little 6x6 tlt axle crawler does grreat with that motor. Pretty sure it is a 2217 1100kv motor. But you do need a 19mm to 25mm adapter plate to mount that motor on a axial/pede tranny. I made one out of a steel washer.

FastXR 04.14.2010 06:23 PM

So I'm best to go with the HH 1100kv revolver then? Im sort of confused though, will that bolt directly to my axial or do I need an adapter plate to match it up?

lincpimp 04.14.2010 06:44 PM

The holmes hobbies revolver should mate right up, 25mm bolt pattern and 1/8(3.2mm) shaft is what you need.

FastXR 04.14.2010 08:25 PM

Perfect thats what I'll go with then and run it on 3s. Thanks for all your tips guys.

lincpimp 04.14.2010 08:51 PM

No prob, I am full of tips (and hot air)

What's_nitro? 04.14.2010 09:07 PM

Just FYI, BL crawlers tend to cog quite a bit more than you might be used to with regular trucks. I would plan on adding a couple more capacitors and/or using a smaller pinion.

lincpimp 04.15.2010 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 360307)
Just FYI, BL crawlers tend to cog quite a bit more than you might be used to with regular trucks. I would plan on adding a couple more capacitors and/or using a smaller pinion.

Latest update from cc for the esc, high/max start power, normal timing and 100% drag brake. I can shear the driveshafts off my comp before it cogs, and that was with a sidewinder esc.

Semi Pro 04.15.2010 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by FastXR (Post 360280)
So I'm best to go with the HH 1100kv revolver then? Im sort of confused though, will that bolt directly to my axial or do I need an adapter plate to match it up?

thats what i am useing now and im very happy with it
HH doesnt sell them anymore but you can still find the same motor made by scorpion

you dont need to use an adaptor

FastXR 04.15.2010 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Semi Pro (Post 360361)
thats what i am useing now and im very happy with it
HH doesnt sell them anymore but you can still find the same motor made by scorpion

you dont need to use an adaptor

They are listed on his site? That sucks if he doesn't sell them anymore, can you provide a link or P/N for the scorpion version? No adapters is good!

Aslo the HH website recommends 3s lipo, which is fine I'll pick a couple of cheapies up from HobbyCity or Hobbypartz. What Mah packs are you guys running for a decent run time and still keep the size/weight down?

FastXR 04.15.2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 360341)
Latest update from cc for the esc, high/max start power, normal timing and 100% drag brake. I can shear the driveshafts off my comp before it cogs, and that was with a sidewinder esc.

I will use those exact settings, Thanks Linc. Im not too worried about cogging as I'm not competing with it just having fun around the yard and at the races.

I'm actually worried about popping the stock driveshafts apart at the "U-Joints", it happened occasionally with the Rooster and 55t, I can imagine with the new setup its going to be worse. Any suggestions on a driveshaft upgrade?

lincpimp 04.15.2010 01:12 PM

MIP driveshafts are solid. My buddy uses those. Less driveshaft angle usually does more good than anything else.

FastXR 04.15.2010 02:30 PM

I'll look into picking the MIP shafts up and hopefully that will help eliminate the driveshaft issues. Any recmmendations on what size packs to run?

Arct1k 04.15.2010 02:41 PM

3s 40c hobbyking 1050mah - 69mm long which fits alongside the servo if you use the long front servo mount

FastXR 04.15.2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Arct1k (Post 360419)
3s 40c hobbyking 1050mah - 69mm long which fits alongside the servo if you use the long front servo mount

What kind of run time can I expect to get out of that pack?

What's_nitro? 04.15.2010 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lincpimp (Post 360341)
Latest update from cc for the esc, high/max start power, normal timing and 100% drag brake. I can shear the driveshafts off my comp before it cogs, and that was with a sidewinder esc.

Good to know. Sometimes I like being wrong. Sometimes... :intello:

lincpimp 04.15.2010 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by What's_nitro? (Post 360480)
Good to know. Sometimes I like being wrong. Sometimes... :intello:

Gearing and good batteries are still very important, sometime I take for granted that others will run good lipos and great correctly... Guess I should not do that, huh!!!

What's_nitro? 04.15.2010 10:30 PM

Yeah capacitors can only make up for so much before they become bigger than the truck they're in! Better batteries are they way to go in the long run.


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