New Traxxas BL Boat
 

Just saw this. Anyone else know anything?

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Dang! What's the big secret?

Hmmm.........a Traxxas setup for 6s? Did I hear that right?

Looks interesting to say the least

mmm powered?

Can't wait to see this! I was thinking of geting a Supervee27 but they are now discontinued. I like that it's big cause 27" just isn't big enough for a boat going that fast, and dare I say it, it actually looks good, especially for a Traxxas designed vehicle, very sleek and stylish

Also can't wait to see the waterproof 6s esc and what the motor is

Could this be a sign of things to come? :yes:

http://i160.photobucket.com/albums/t...elCastillo.jpg

I would argue that there are no secrets. Its an MMM of course. However I am very excited to see this. Maybe they've made something that can stay under a MMM in stock form. I would like to own one if so.

My question is why anyone would suspect and MMM which is clearly not made for boats and not the hydra which clearly is made for boats. Makes more sense to me.

I don't know the contracts between the two giant RC companies nor would I understand if I had them laid in front of me but I was thinking more along the lines of TRX ordering extra MMMs or having a surplus, maybe even suppling them with water cooling, and slinging them into a boat hule(a nice looking one at that). Although, I'm aware that the Hydra would be better suited.

I half way think it will prove to be slightly dishonest when the release it and it is not their own ESC and motor as to me in the video he seems to be in favor of expousing that it is. IDK I don't love traxxas anyway so I'm not be objective.

According to Traxxas, this is an in-house controller. It has nothing to do w/ Castle. Don't know if that is true or not, but that is what they said at the show.

Did some searching and it is being said that it is a Velineon power system, so no CC stuff in there

I'm pretty sure this will be my next boat, being 6s capable out of the box will be awsome 'cause then i can use the same batteries im going to use for my LST2/XXL

You think they would be so dense as to use the twin VXL concept then?

It only has one prop.

Did I hear right in the video? Top Speed of over 30 mph?

That's not really very fast.

Thats on the 2 traxxas battereis that they are going to include from what i heard, apparently out of the box it will do 50+ just by throwing a 6s in there

I thought he said 50MPH out of the box with 6s lipo. 30MPH with just a couple of 7 cell NiMH packs. I could be mistaken though. And 30MPH is actually a good bit faster than you'd think in the water. Don't know if you've seen Lou's Villain converted to single prop with brushless. 36 NiMH cells in that would only get you about 35MPH.
Traxxas sure has a very nice looking boat! Makes me wish I could sell my Villain IV lol.

Brijar!!!

A friend of mine spoke with Joe Ford today who stated they have nothing to do with the BL system in this new Traxxas boat.

But for $400 and 50mph out the box on 6s, I'm sold. It would take some cash to set up a boat properly for 50mph.
I'm wonder if this BL system will be limited to water usage? Or could we see them crawl into the MT's and Summits?

50MPH is a feat no matter what the vehicle is. It takes a lot of power to move something through water. My Dad has a ~3200lb boat with 200HP, top speed is 42MPH. That same 200HP in a 3200LB car would easily break 100MPH. As I already said, I was ready to drop money on a SuperVee27 when Tower got them back in stock, but rather than informing me they where in stock I was informed they where discontinued. The SuperVee wasn't lipo ready, no 2.4Ghz radio, 3/4 the size and I'm pretty sure it would have cost a lot more than $400 just to get it to 40MPH. I think they are a little late releasing this though as boating season has already begun, but pretty good timing with the SuperVee off the market.

Well the Supervee would do 40 easily with lipos and a new prop. But no 2.4ghz radio and only 27". The SV was pretty nice when it first came out. Many clubs started classes based on the SV27 and the BJ26. I wouldn't doubt this new Traxxas boat to start the same revolution and have a Traxxas boat spec class.

Boats are nice and fun! But they drain batteries MUCH MUCH quicker than land r/c's. I would get a maximum of 7 minutes of runtime in a 2p 8000-10,000mah setup. That got old fast for me so I gave up on the boating world.

Yeah, that same boat of my Dad's has a 55Gal gas tank, you could easily burn all of that in an afternoon, ho far would that get you in a car? A typical day out in the boat which was about 75% just sitting, a little cruising just on plane and some kneeboarding and/or tubing was a minimum of 20 gallons. So with an Electric boat I can see runtimes would be poor. Good batteries would be a must, although I wouldn't expect that it would need much for burst C rating, I would think that the lack of a grip ( rubber on ashphalt vs prop in water) would dramatically lower amp bursts.

Water is 1000 times more dense than air, this is why the top BL boat guys are arguably closer to the cutting edge than BL vehicles. I know that won't go down well but boat guys definitely have a take no prisoners attitude when it comes to their racing

This is the local boat guru & some of his projects and/or customers in action http://www.youtube.com/user/fastelectrics

This is the "fastest" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA3y_gyX3m8

When you consider how much drag is on the entire vessel these speeds are fairly amazing. 50mph from Traxxas (if it's true) is no mean feat...they'll sell thousands

Here's another vid...


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Those are some fast boats PBO.

Hmm, will it be fiberglass?

I have a supervee. Out of the box with the stock prop and lipo we got 35+ out of it. With an octura prop that I sharpened and balanced I got 44 mph out of it. This was with some 12c 3600mah lipos, 4s total. I can imagine I had a few mph tucked away with some better lipos. So 100 bucks for the lipo, paid 300 for the boat and 15 bucks for the prop.

Traxxas boat looks cool. Would be nice to see the setup, off to the OSE forums...

There's a reason people mostly run 2p lipo setups. Boat draw far more amps and far higher bursts than a normal land vehicle. There is the added runtime as well, but mainly for safety in the setup and having the available amperage to run some of these setups. 1 change in the prop could drastically spike the amp draw.




Much of the boat community have come to the consensus that this boat will be constructed in ABS for cost reasoning. In the video, you can clearly see the lip of an ABS mono hull.

I love the graphics and layout on that hull.

I think with the performance and looks coupled with the price of 400 this will be a hot item. It will do what Traxxas does best and get people into the hobby.

No matter how you feel Traxxas is responsible for getting more people into the hobby than all the other companies combined. (opinion based on what I have seen, not a fact based on numbers I have)

I will probably purchase one as it will fit my boating needs perfectly. I don't plan on racing and a $400.00 complete package (minus batteries because I won't keep the trx ones) is perfect for my wants.

BTW, thanks for the vid PBO, it looks plenty fast for me.

It does look like fun, and 50mph out of the box is nothing to sneeze at. I would like to see the internals and will wait till some of the OSE guys get a few "miles" on theirs...

There are a few guys on OSE not agreeing with the decision for an ABS. But many others are in consensus of this boat bringing more people into the hobby! Which it will! Traxxas is excellent at this and have an excellent marketing strategy.


I can't wait to see what under the cowl!:gasp:

I already have one of these on order, from the what the guy in the TRX video described it they sound pretty much the same as far as ESC ?

http://www.venom-group.com/itemdesc.asp?ic=1816

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No clue why 2 video's I meesed up somewhere ??

Good luck with it. Most of the folks on OSE have had horrible luck with Venom boats.

Yeah, read much the same about the KOS cat boats.

Once I get this thing the ESC and motor are getting yanked out and my stuff is going in.
I already have a 120amp speedo and a NEU waiting, will be trying up to 8s in it.

Venom stuff has always been shady for my understanding.

The website recommends 3s on their setup. The video shows it running on 4s and states its capable of 6s.
I'm sorry but most 6s setups in a boat will draw more than 60amps...

Unless it has a 1.4 pitch 32mm prop!!!

TRX finially got the boat on the website and I have to say, I'm sold !

Just emailed Horizon and scratched my P1 preorder and added the Titan. This boat is NICE !. The TRX boys have some really inovative ideas and the ESC/motor combo looks stout for RTR. Still curious about the Amp max on the ESC but will readily handle 6s ?

http://www.traxxas.com/products/mari...5708_titan.htm

Second video with camera installed is really cool !
http://www.traxxas.com/products/video/5708titan/

I can't wait !:party:
I have to admit tho, the P1 is a much nicer looking boat but I can remedy that !

I don't like Venom, but they make two boats that I love...the huge gasoline-powered King of Shaves (58", 26cc 2-Stroke Gasoline Engine) and the smaller twin-brushless-powered King of Shaves "C1" (34", Twin V380 2880kV BL Motors [3S Each] & Twin 60A Pro Marine BL ESCs [3S Each])...the ESCs can be wired together to run on a single 6S Pack!

Edit: Venom also makes a Single-Brushless Powered King of Shaves "P1" (35", V500 BL Motor [6S] & 60A Pro Marine BL ESC [6S])

We sell a lot of Venom boats at the LHS I work at, was never to inspired about much of them except the big ass KOS boat. I just fell in love with the look of the P1, I thought I had to have it but the TRX boat is much nicer designed and I think I can trust the electronics more with the TRX warrantee/customer service.

Yep, I am moving to the east side of Reno, known as Sparks where I will be a mile away from the local Marina. This will definitely be my next purchase in RC. Now if anyone would buy my freaking 8ight.

Now listed on Tower, albeit with their typically inflated initial pricing.

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...I=LXAAUF**&P=7

Sheesh, Thats pretty F-in' stupid ? You'd think they would put "PriceToBe Anounced" rather than a price that'll scare everyone off to not come back and look again ? I figure this is NOP for them but I never shop w/Tower.

My boss at the hobby were i work partime, has 3 of the Traxxas boats on backorder. We also have 5 of the Probaot stilleto tunnel hulls on backorder as well.

And you know not all of them are available. :na: