My First Savage
 

i'm a bit rubbish at build threads as just jump right to it... never tried a Savage so thought what the hell I've got lots of elecs hanging around...

First thing to do was swap out the 1717 rotor for a 5mm version care of Thomas (thanks again...). Whilst I was at it I sealed the end bells with Aluminum tape care of E-Revonut...

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For the Elecs I'll be running:

CC MMM
CC 1717 1500kv
CC Bec on 6v
2 x 3s = 6s 5000mah 30c Lipo
Futaba BLS152 430 Oz
Spektrum

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For the Savage i hit up some ebay chop shops and came away with:

Flux transmission / Diffs
FLM Towers & LST Shock Adapters
Integy Knuckles/Hubs/Extenders
Aftershock shocks
Jammin X1 Wing Mount and Hyper ST Wing
Chassis TBD

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Quite a bit to finish...
- Chassis
- Elecs install
- Lighting

Looks good so far Chris. How is the wing mount? I used one from a HB LSP, but it was a bit short.

Those are the bp diffs right?

They are 4 spider gear in an alum cup with the steel reinforcing bits... I think they are the BP ones... The installer sadly decided to weld up the screws one of the diffs with green threadlock I think. I was unable to change the diff fluid - It seemed very light so threw it into the rear...

Wing mounts ok - Its what I had lying around so no harm done if it doesn't work...

I'll see what it looks like once chassis installed.

That may have been a factory diff - when I replaced mine I had to order complete new cups 'cause I couldn't get all the screws out with out stripping out the hex. But I seem to recall that mine were a steel cup...been a while, now.

Your gonna like this rig - don't let the handling fool you!

nice ill be watching this

Me too.

i noticed on the bottom of your list that it says lighting??? What do you mean??? Plus any reason as to why you went with the aftershock shocks rather than the lighter, stronger Big bores?

I have also wanted to do a Flux...just don't have the funds at the moment...my daughter's summer basketball camps take priority.

Cool looking project Chris..

Going to be running a castle BEC, why ? Is this better to do when running 6s ?

Nice start, looks stout already !

bec?

are you referring to what a bec is? Most of use a bec to regulate volatge to the servo as well as take a little pressure off of the esc itself

With a 400 Oz servo I'm going to pulling up to 3 amps - I'm gradually putting BECs on everything that is using UHT servos...

I got the led's installed - I was able to squeeze 4 12mm leds into each shock tower...

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On the LST/Aftershock shocks - This is going to be a big car I felt it needed big shocks... :)

the LEDs look good, but will you be able to see the front ones once the body is on????

Fair answer on the shocks...

i think the idea of these BECs is interesting... something i should be looking into...
Thanks

Makes sense to use a BEC since you have that whopper servo, then you can feed it 7-8volts :yes::yes:

This is going to be bodiless so no visibility issues - The Futaba's max a 6v but I think 431oz should be enough :)

Could be slow progress from now as waiting on chassis decision / order / shipping

I would highly suggest the dual rate springs from RC Raven for those shocks. Losi springs never felt right on there, esp as it got heavy. Power coated, but cheap at only $7 set. Many colors too.

Are you going to have something instead of the body to protect the F shocks? May get mangled a bit

Would you mind posting up a better pic of the wing mount? Curious to how you did it. The wing mount has a section that it supposed to go beyond the shock tower and have a crosspin go thru right? Did you just cut it off?

Chassis ....cant go wrong with the FLM if your looking at XL length. Or one of the CF makers might be an neat one to lighten it up a bit.

I'll second that the BEC's might be value added and worth looking into. I haven't had any issues so far on 5/6S on any of my trucks, but who knows how long that will last.

Thinking about it Ryan I'm guessing its an OFNA LX1 wing mount - I used to pick these up cheaply on ebay primarily for the wing.

It just bolts directly up to the shock tower - The mount doesn't extend through the tower... I just lined up the top screws and drilled new holes for the other positions.

For the chassis I'm hoping for an FLM XXXXL with a cab i.e. an FLM 5B style chassis...

For the shocks - i was thinking of something like this...

http://www.hostilehobby.com/ProdImag...%205B%20Lg.jpg

Question for the masses - but should I mount the rear shocks behind the rear tower or in front...

Any pro's / con's?

Who makes those mounts???? They look nice. Shocks aint all that bad either!

Re; front or back mounting. If you go for the front, you need to change the carrier to one like the Integy that eliminates the tie rod. Not sure about on the rear - I never even looked at it to see if it could mount there.

Finnster - have you actually used these? Now that I have a mini-fleet of these shocks, I need to get a spring selection going. Guess at seven per set, can't go wrong with trying them.

Those mounts are designed for the 5B - I neem to email them to check on the whole spacing to see if I can make it work...

I just ordered a pair of springs in silver to try... 12.50 with shipping...

YEs, I have these on my savage now. I had Losi yellows. silver, black and white springs (came w. the used shocks I bought from a trader here) but none of them were ever quite to my liking. Plus I hated having two different color springs F&R. ;)

The Ravens are plush and fairly soft for small bumps, but get quite stiff and stop bottoming out the chassis even off big drops. (my truck is quite heavy also w. 1kg of batts, FLM bits, and a big 1521)
I have never gone back to the Losi's.


Thanks on the wing mount info. Most mounts I saw either didn't have the correct mounting holes or some wierd tab. The LSP mount was the only one I ever saw that worked, but was short and the wing was under the top of the shock tower and silly looking. I'll have to keep my eye out for an LX-1 mount.

G/l on the chassis. Perhaps you can convince Jaime to make some XXL ext Savage arms as well. A 1" extension per side would be really nice for the longer chassis ;)

BTW, since I have 4WS, I mounted the shocks in the rear. They work fine either direction.

the only thing I don't like about the LST/AS shocks on the savage is that the lower shock end only mounts w. a 4mm screw and hangs away from the arm a bit by a spacer. As a consequence, the 3mm screw gets bent over time. I don't see that the FLM arms really change this either.

Add a better lower mount the the list of possible improvements to some FLM arms. :)

Hmm I'll have a look at my setup as only used the space in the arm not an extra one on the outside...

Mine would not fit in the std mounting location, as the sring would rub the upper arms. Then again I have the adj arm kit, so IDK if that makes a diff or not. LMK how it works

Something is backwards then - I had to use the spacer on the outside. If yours clears, post up some pics of how they are mounted....might save us all some grief!!!

I emailed them awhile back about it... they said maybe they'd have something of the sort by RCM, but nothing showed up.

I'll try to get a picture up tonight but I double checked last night and I have no clearance issues with just mounting the shocks to the outside of the arm.

I am using the FLM towers with the LST2 shock mounts and everything just seemed to line up...

I think I lied to you - mine are mounted behind the axle, the spacer on the bottom goes inside of the arm.
http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...&highlight=FLM

No progress on the chassis yet :whistle::whistle::whistle:

However i received a Turtle Racing Baja Front shock mount - With a little tweaking it bolted straight up... these should so a great job of protecting the tops of the shocks and tie the front of the shocks together.

The Baja mounts were perfect for mounting another set of LEDs... :intello:

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ooo looks really gd... can you tell me where from and how much please?
Thanks

here you go...

http://www.turtleracingproducts.com/..._hd_braces.php

$28 - In comment can you say Chris Long pointed you to them - thx

I just found my way to this thread. It's looking awesome, can't wait to see what you've got up your sleeve, especially with no body. What are you up to?

I'll be lurking:yes:

Tire suggestions... Hunting around and have found/have...

- Set of 4 "front" Baja bowties - Worried too narrow only 2.5inches vs 3.3 for terra pins / or proline rears
http://prolineracing.com/images/products/1150-13.jpg

- Set of Baja bowties (front and rear)
http://prolineracing.com/images/prod...ondary/228.jpg

- Set of Excavators (only come in rear - worried a little about weight -
http://prolineracing.com/images/products/1148-13.jpg

- Terra Pins
http://www.hpieurope.com/graphics/pa...65/4465_03.jpg

i'll but using a different chassis i hope but this is it with Terra Pins the same tires front and rear...

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Does this suck?

Looks ok in video form...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpD_thI6OPo&feature=fvw

I have a set of these on PL 23mm hubbed Maxx sized rims on my E-Revo and they grip awesome and are very light indeed. I belted them with nylon packing tape and balanced after installation. They do not expand and are steady at high speeds (45mph)

See them at work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPfBq_hGn1w