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BrianG 09.21.2010 12:32 PM

LipoSack Material?
 
What material, specifically, are those LipoSacks made of? And where could I get the raw material?

Since my basement got wrecked, I keep everything in the garage now, and with the varying temperatures, I don't want to keep my lipos in there too. I've been putting them in a Liposack and storing them in a toolbox in my living area. However, I have too many lipos for one sack, and I'd rather not get numerous sacks. So, I want to get some of the sack material and make my own compartmented storage box, complete with charger/powersupply area. Makes it easier for travel.

Arct1k 09.21.2010 12:55 PM

I just use a fireproof document security safe.

Arct1k 09.21.2010 12:56 PM

Ps pretty sure you could just use a large fire blanket.

kraegar 09.21.2010 12:56 PM

I have a liposask, not positive of the material used, but I plan to get a military ammo can to store my lipos in when they're in the house.

You can get em for around $10 at gun shows, and I trust them a lot more then the lipo sacks.

josh9mille 09.21.2010 01:36 PM

X2 on the ammo cans. thats what i use, i even made 6 compartments in it by tack welding some dividers in it, that way if one lipo goes off there is a less chance it will take out the others. I also drilled some tiny holes in the lid so if one does explode it can release the pressure. Hopefully it works, but hopefully I will never have to find out!

What's_nitro? 09.21.2010 01:45 PM

My guess would be a tight-weave fiberglass mat... That's what it looks like in the pictures I've seen.

nitrostarter 09.21.2010 01:52 PM

Its fiberglass cloth per Mark Wood on rcgroups

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...78&postcount=6

molak 09.21.2010 01:56 PM

Lipo sacks seem to be made of Fiberglass or ceramic fibers with layer of high temperature silicone to keep fibers in place..

A metal box with a inner layer of "3m Nextel 312" should be more than enough.

I use nextel 312 on my turbo manifolds and that thing is Tough!

suicideneil 09.21.2010 02:14 PM

Wimps. I sit mine on a shelf in my bedroom- death by glory if it ever comes to it... :eyes:

BrianG 09.21.2010 03:00 PM

Fiberglass cloth eh? All the cloth I have seen is meant to have resin added. At least it gives me a place to look.

I have a container already, but if a lipo does go up for whatever reason (I do still have a certain ill-reputed brand lipo), I'd like to 1) prevent the other packs from going up as well, and 2) not get so hot that the metal can's surface doesn't combust whatever it is sitting on. I know there'll be tons of smoke, but if I can contain any flames and the majority of the heat, the container can be moved outside in short order.

The storage version of the liposack is kinda what I'm looking for, but it makes for a rather large item to move, and is still a "soft" container. My idea is to use any toolbox with fire-proof material lined compartments that I can slide lipos on-end with enough room at the top for the wires. Simply shutting the toolbox "caps" the compartments (but still allows some venting).

Neil: Death by glory or any other means is not an option. I don't know what I would do if my wife or kids were killed, or rendered homeless, because of a hobby. This is a case where an ounce of prevention is worth ten tons of cure...

Duster_360 09.21.2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrostarter (Post 380959)
Its fiberglass cloth per Mark Wood on rcgroups

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...78&postcount=6


Mark should know...he's the owner/inventor.

Bondonutz 09.21.2010 03:02 PM

Look at HaborFrieght and Tool for a small welding blanket, it's the same shiz and should be had cheap ?

BrianG 09.21.2010 03:14 PM

Good idea bondo! Did a quick search and found three fairly inexpensive blankets. Might have to swing by sometime and check them out in person to make sure it's what I'm looking for. 1000*F should be sufficient...

PBO 09.21.2010 03:40 PM

As an alternative contact sailmakers (in Chicago?) like Doyle, UK-Halsey, Norths etc. They should have old Kevlar sails sitting around that they could cut a strip off & would only cost shipping?

I know I've got some old ones around, happy to send a few metres if you want to use that?

Freezebyte 09.21.2010 08:18 PM

I'm gonna put mine in an old .50 cal ammo crate. If its good enough for the army, its good enough for me.

magman 09.21.2010 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 380980)
Good idea bondo! Did a quick search and found three fairly inexpensive blankets. Might have to swing by sometime and check them out in person to make sure it's what I'm looking for. 1000*F should be sufficient...

I use almost the same ones when I am welding..works like a champ.

molak 09.21.2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 380975)
Fiberglass cloth eh? All the cloth I have seen is meant to have resin added. At least it gives me a place to look.

For example ..
http://www.agismfg.com/html/cloth.ht...Fcde7AodLUGxFg

You can also use any exhaust wrap from ebay ...

Arct1k 09.21.2010 09:29 PM

http://www.adlinsulflex.com/fire-blankets

whitrzac 09.21.2010 10:37 PM

I use cheap welding gloves from F&F...

1 thing I found out the hard way, bags/containers need to be closed, I set I lipo off in a glove with a binder clip on the end, just smoked a lot until I opened the glove a 30s later... boom...:gasp:

if you do make a box, make each compartment sealed....

molak 09.22.2010 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitrzac (Post 381043)
I use cheap welding gloves from F&F...

1 thing I found out the hard way, bags/containers need to be closed, I set I lipo off in a glove with a binder clip on the end, just smoked a lot until I opened the glove a 30s later... boom...:gasp:

if you do make a box, make each compartment sealed....


You cannot completly contain a lipo fire. The container MUST be vented..

Jahay 09.22.2010 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 380963)
Wimps. I sit mine on a shelf in my bedroom- death by glory if it ever comes to it... :eyes:

damn right neil! i sit my lipos next to 5gallons or fuel and a set of fireworks in my garage... that way i know if the lipos blow up, there will be an indication of an explosion and a spectacular fire work display!

But seriously... i think im going to find a metal box as i just dont trust the lipo sack!

What's_nitro? 09.22.2010 11:43 AM

I store mine in the open on my charging table. The table is painted metal so there's no risk of shorting out and no risk of it catching fire.

reno911 09.22.2010 03:57 PM

How many here have had a lipo explode on you during plain storage? I have only seen bad things when abused and or ran too hard.

Bondonutz 09.22.2010 04:03 PM

Back befor I knew better I'd put them on the shelf for weeks fully charged, I never had one "blow up" but a few dam sure swelled like a ballon.

BrianG 09.22.2010 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by reno911 (Post 381136)
How many here have had a lipo explode on you during plain storage? I have only seen bad things when abused and or ran too hard.

None have exploded yet, and I don't honestly expect them to. But, then again, no one expects to get into a car accident, yet we all carry car insurance (or should).

Like Bondo, I have had a few swell up quite a bit. If they swell enough, the cell casing could break. I just prefer safety since they are being stored in a somewhat volitaile area.

reno911 09.22.2010 04:58 PM

Truth there!

I have always thought to take more precaution measures towards my lipos.

Maybe I will have to get myself a metal container or something.


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