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secondgear 09.29.2010 09:35 AM

MMM took out rx and servos
 
Ran 6S for the first time on my E-Revo. NeuCastle 2200kv motor 18/68.

Ran really nice and made nice power, but I ran into problems.

5 minutes into the run, the truck stopped responding.
Disconnected the battery and started looking around for what failed.
Found that the BEC on the MMM had failed. The RX was burnt out from over voltage. Both servos had failed.

The only thing I can see that caused this is the BEC failing and sending pack voltage through the rx to the sevos. Assuming the rx took the voltage, the servos failed and drew more current which took out the rx.

Anyways, this MMM was purchased back in 2008.
Is Castle replacing these older units? I assume that this is V1 or V2

secondgear 09.29.2010 09:43 AM

Also, I updated the firmware earlier this week to the latest non beta version.

suicideneil 09.29.2010 07:20 PM

Yep, if its a V1 or V2 ( wires for batt and motor side, or bullets for batt & motor side ) its a free replacement. Not much that can be done for your servos or rx saddly- BrianG has a design for a failsafe of sorts to prevent the same thing happening again ( stop full voltage being sent to the rx, even if the BEC fails )..

secondgear 09.30.2010 01:06 AM

Do I just send it in to Castle, or can a lhs take care of the return?

Arct1k 09.30.2010 06:21 AM

Normally direct with castle unles lhs will do that.

BrianG 09.30.2010 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by secondgear (Post 382148)
...The RX was burnt out from over voltage. Both servos had failed.

The only thing I can see that caused this is the BEC failing and sending pack voltage through the rx to the sevos. Assuming the rx took the voltage, the servos failed and drew more current which took out the rx...

That sucks. That happened to me too, except it was an external BEC. I was able to fix both the rx and servo though.

If the actual rx circuitry survived the overvoltage, then the rx's PCB traces connecting the power and/or ground pins may have simply burnt from overcurrent. If this is the case, try soldering a wire across all the power (middle) pins and another wire across the ground pins.

On the servos, I assume you are using stock Trx servos? Probably not worth fixing, but sometimes you can pick up the driver board for much less than a whole servo. Then it's just a matter of removing the old board and soldering in a new one. In my case, it was a $100+ servo that blew so it was worth it for a new driver board for $26.

Unfortunately, this type of failure can happen to ANY switching BEC. It's just how they work. Hope things turn out good for you and are able to get things fixed with minimal cash outlay!

secondgear 10.01.2010 01:30 AM

Thanks for the input, guys.

The components on the board of the rx are cooked.
I've got a new 2.4GHz module system for my Hitec tx on the way anyways that uses high voltage receivers good to 16V, so I should be good there. The fact that the rx is under $20 makes it easy to keep spares on hand as well.

I'll have some servos on order shortly as well. Was just hoping that the truck would be running longer before anything like this happened...

suicideneil 10.02.2010 09:20 AM

$20 receivers? Wowzers- what radio is it you're using again?..

secondgear 10.02.2010 03:21 PM

Hitec Agressor.

The module I've ordered will let me use the cheap receivers.

secondgear 10.02.2010 03:24 PM

I've seen it work with other guys using a 3PK.
Normally, it's used for planes, but they've found it to work really good for surface vehicles.

This video is what peaked my interest.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkZz8...9&index=15

suicideneil 10.03.2010 09:50 AM

I'll have to watch the video at home later. A few people have commented how strange it is that aircraft receivers, often with multiple channels, are cheaper than the ground receivers; I use a Speky DX6i & the 6-8 channel rxs are about £35-40, vs £40-80 for ground models with only 2-4 channels at most..

magman 10.03.2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 382579)
I'll have to watch the video at home later. A few people have commented how strange it is that aircraft receivers, often with multiple channels, are cheaper than the ground receivers; I use a Speky DX6i & the 6-8 channel rxs are about £35-40, vs £40-80 for ground models with only 2-4 channels at most..

Wonder if they have a rx that would work with the spektrum series of controllers

secondgear 10.03.2010 12:46 PM

It will for sure not work with the Spektrum txs. I would be all over it if I could.

There are compatible rxs for Spektrum from China now.
Flew a plane for the first time with one yesterday with my DX7. All the range you need for a park flyer at $15 a pop.

suicideneil 10.03.2010 04:23 PM

Argh, stop being a tease- what rxs from China work with the DX7? :lol: Too late for me really, but for future reference atleast..

secondgear 10.03.2010 05:58 PM

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...&ParentCat=190

The trick is finding them in stock...

BrianG 10.03.2010 06:20 PM

Will they work with surface Spektrum radios?

Bondonutz 10.03.2010 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 382643)
Will they work with surface Spektrum radios?

+1
Would be great for micro's ?

secondgear 10.03.2010 06:33 PM

Sorry, but they don't.

BrianG 10.03.2010 06:40 PM

Figures...

Bondonutz 10.03.2010 06:43 PM

If both are DSM2 how does it not work ??

secondgear 10.03.2010 06:49 PM

You can buy one and try, but from what others have said, the surface and air systems of Spektrum do not play together.

Bondonutz 10.03.2010 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondgear (Post 382649)
You can buy one and try, but from what others have said, the surface and air systems of Spektrum do not play together.

I just might, Going to be placing a order sometime this week when I figure out what exactly I'm needing.

secondgear 10.03.2010 07:14 PM

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...e#post15788639

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showt...e#post12047951

5 minutes of reading for you...

Bondonutz 10.03.2010 07:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondgear (Post 382651)

Thank You

suicideneil 10.03.2010 09:36 PM

Indeed, thankyou very much for sharing that info- answers some questions that have been floating about for a little while now.

Seems being a stick radio guy has its advantages, but I knew that already- this is just a nice bonus :lol:

Hands up whos thinking about switching to stick radios now?

BrianG 10.03.2010 10:45 PM

Why switch? Just move the internals from a stick radio to a custom pistol grip case...

secondgear 10.03.2010 11:57 PM

Or put this module in your pistol radio...

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...w/_Module_&_RX

Receivers are cheap as well...

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...&ParentCat=190

I've got one coming with a spare 7 channel rx on the way. I'll let you guys know how it works in my Hitec pistol radio.

If you're tricky, you can hack it into any radio you want as long as you can find the power and PPM terminals. They even make a kit for it.

http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...hz_DIY_Module_

Reviews are amazing for this system as well. Tied with Hitec for the link it provides.


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