Finally giving 6s lipo a try!
 

Allright, I figured that I waited long enough and with the RC season wrapping up.I decided I really wanted to find out what 6S feels like on a Flux after thinking about doing it since owning my first Flux last year

I had some credit money at HK and I didn't wanna waste it so I figured it was now or never to get a great deal on some 3s lipos and see if its worth it. Plus, I want to see if FB2 works better with 3s lipos vs struggling on 2s lipo with heat issues. I managed to snag these bad boys and hopefully they will be here by the end of the week.

Needless to say, i'll have a vid of my running of my first drive with 6s powa, should be interesting!


http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...dProduct=11939


http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store...0-3S-25(1).jpg

looks good.
 

Looks good. Finally battery prices are getting within reason, but how well will they hold up is the question? From what I have been reading its a crap shoot on whether you get a good pack or a bad one. Once you receive the packs it is hard to justify shipping them back if there is a problem. With prices like what Maxxcramps charges what choice do we have? I just cannot justify spending $150 on one battery regardless of their claims. For an E-Maxx truck thats $300 just for one setup. Thats just stupid if you ask me, or more so just greedy on their part. I feel like the basic 300% mark up that the USA uses is pretty greedy in general.

Anyway good luck with your purchase and have fun playing with your toy.

I won't feel so depressed if for some reason $100 worth of turnigy 3s lipos don't work out vs the ass rapeage of $300+ that Maxcraps woulda cost me.

My first batch of turnigy 5000 2s lipos were puffed outa the box but apparently ALOT of peeps have had that issue with that model. My hardcases 5200mah 2s turnigys are holding up well so i'll give these new nano tech ones a shot. Only way to find out for sure is to try em and see how both they and my Flux hold up to 25 volts.

You will be happy but for the love of God please remember to re-gear for 6s.

Im down to a 18t

Holy crap! 6000's how long you plannin on runnin this thing? Temps were fine on 4s, my guess is they will be higher on 6s due to extra wheelspin but go for it. As long as you stay under 175 you will be fine. Get ready for that thing to move with authority.

Well if the theory is correct, I shouldn't see much change in temps due to the higher voltage being able to move the truck easier vs on 2s. And Maxcraps makes 9000mah so 6000 isn't that much

Yes but don't forget you will be makin more power at the same time. Run 4 and 6s in my racing setup and 6s is always a little warmer. My thoughts are the power surges are much higher but like I said it's not much hotter. If you can keep the wheels from spinning You shouldn't notice much of a difference. Especially if your geared for the same speed as on 4s. Only one way to find out for sure! May I sugest having someone else film this time, will be harder focus with a $!&@eating grin on your face with 6s whippin that thing around like a rag doll.

6s is always fun to watch. I only did it once on my E-Revo, simply a one word expression...

Wow!

Be interesting to find out if RCM's pinion will last under 6s power, its already getting kinda worn.

WOW, the amount of power this thing is putting out is flat out insane! :oh: Despite my gorilla taped tires, they still balloon like crazy with 6s! I nearly smoked the slipper clutch pad right off the bat as I didn't have it cranked down all the way and it was making a gawd awful noise and it smelt bad.

Luckily, I caught and fixed it before I think I ruined the pad as now it wheelies with just a slight flick of the throttle now. This damn thing will now do backflips no questions asked, even with the XL conversion. I noticed checking the temps that the motor is running pretty cool but the ESC fan is kicking on pretty early though it might have something to do with 0% punch control and full throttle starts on the concrete.

I'll need to do some more testing in actual dirt and grass later today after I top off the Lipos and see how the temps are under an actual load.

i love it when people think 6cell is fast, you guys really need to try 12cell

WTF would you be driving with a 12 cell? 6s is borderline uncontrollable with this thing. I wouldn't wanna pay for a 12 cell either

lst xxl with a 36-80-1100 medusa:yipi:

there is a guy in here with a 14cell savage

Hmmm, well after another run with some speed runs, jumps, backflips and standing backflips, this is almost too much damn power. The motor is staying in the 110 degree range but the ESC fan is on all the time but it doesn't feel that hot and i'm only getting readings of 120 degree are so around the vents.

I'm gonna engage 40% punch control and see how it behaves handling and heat wise.

12 cell power
 

All you would have to do is get your hands on another 6S and put them together as a 12S and fire it up. Of courese you would have to have an ESC that could handle that kind of power. We all know the higher the voltage the more power you will experience, along with cooler operating temps. Sounds like you are having enough fun just with the 6S.

Here's the vid on the insanity!

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Nice backflip off the jump. See man, we told you you'd have plenty of air control with the XL conversion if you bumped up the power from 4S. Looks like a lot more fun now.

Actually, I have a fair bit of air control even with 4s, I think it was the drag brake that was screwing it up earlier cause after I turned it off, it was better 6s is fun but I dunno how long the truck will last under that much power, especially the ESC.

I have been running 6s on my MMM since I've bought it, Yeah the fan always seems to run. But Remember it will thermal shutdown before meltdown :lol:

Yeah That backflip over the jump made your tires look like some Jumbo Kongs Mid Flight!!! :lol:

You must have your slipper completely locked in that vid... I have a CCNeu 1520 and it doesnt make my truck get thrown around like a rag doll as bag as your vid made yours....

I nearly smoked the slipper pad earlier because it was slightly loosened so I cranked it all the way down to keep it from slipping. Its utterly useless under 4s lipo, let alone 6s IMO. I suppose its better to have the fan running then have no fan it all *cough, Brian* The motor stayed pretty cool though, so I know that it definently struggles on the XL conversion with 4S so that leaves me with either going back to 4S on stock chassis to gain back thermal stability and my wheelies or stick with 6 and mess with the ESC settings and possibly gear down even more with a smaller spure. I'm still worried about prematurely failing the MMM due to running 6s all the time. Decisions decisions.....

Well That Blows... I have mine kinda loose (1/2 turn off) Although its a Maxx... Any Aftermarket setups for the savage? I know your Dogbones will thank you... My center rear dog bone pin is about %30 material left, I know it will snap soon... (FLM Bone) But I have got about 16months use...

Oh another Q I had, I really like your SC Body. But do the tires ever rub when turning full throw and suspension compresses... Thank You Sir.

The center tranny cups are HD after I upgraded them but they don't make the outer drive cups in HD but they are pretty tough. I'll just have to drive the truck some more on 6s with punch control and just see how bad the wear and tear is with it.

Yes they do, you can actually hear the tires rubbing on the body on the slow mo jump.

A smaller spur won't gear you down it will gear it up, a larger spur is what you would need

glad to hear its working out for ya. and that too much power statement is boarder line gay....lol

Does gorilla tape stretch that much? They don't looked taped at all to me :neutral:

I was surprised too unless it gave and broke in all four wheels

Taped wheels.
 

Yea I would say that how ever you taped your wheels that it did not take. Your wheels are balooning alomost like regular wheels do. Did you clean the inside of the tires with Alcohol before you appied the tape, and of course let them dry? Also next time try using re-enforced packing tape. Anyway nice video and its good to see you playing with your newest creation on 6S. Imagine 12S?

Flm makes some outer drive cups that fit. Idk how tough they are tho

Tape will only hold for so long and I have never seen any packing tape that is stickier than gorilla tape. I would give fishing line a try. Wrapping the fishing line around the outside if the tire between the tread blocks, a couple wraps around in a few places, tie it in a knot and add a couple drops of CA glue to the knot.

Done that too
 

Yea I have done this too. I have a set of Proline 40 series Road Rage 2 wheels with dental floss wrapped on them in the two center treads. two wraps tied and glued, with black shoe die over them so you cannot see that it is there. They are for my high speed project. They are also Axial beadlock rims, with a couple drops of gorilla glue between the inner bead and the metal ring to aid in holding the tires together at higher speeds. Plus each wheel once fully assembled have been maticulously balanced in order to keep the power transfer smooth and reduce any vibration that can cause handling problems.

I have to say after driving it again today with both 2s and 3s lipos to compare them, 3s is just flat out nearly uncontrollable and is really hard on the truck, even with 40% punch control. I may or may not stick with 6S. I'm gonna up punch to 75% and try it again but once those tires start ballooning, control becomes a real issue. I've already notice excessive wear on the dogbones, drive cups and my front right wheel is starting to strip at the hex nut. All this from what I can visually see on the truck without taking it apart on only three 6s runs.

Edit: Holy hell! Upon further inspection one of the dogbone broke pins has broken off and one of the rear diff bearings blew its seal and is a complete mess. My next order at the LHS is gonna be an expensive one, grrr.....

Speed?
 

What speed are you geared for? Maybe lower the pinion gear one or two teeth. No doubt that you are still going to have an awful lot of torque to deal with, but you may be able to gain a little bit more control of your wheel spin and handling. Testing testing testing just like the big boys have to do in order to figure out exactly what works and what does not. Once you try a few different setups and tweek everything you will ba able to find exactly what works for you.

too bad you didnt buy matching 3s lipos to your 2s lipos, then you could have ran 5s, IMHO 5s is the sweet spot

Yeah it's messed up! You drove it like you stole it.:oh:

Thats like putting a blown bigblock in a peg leg car with a turbo 350 trans. Its either going to break or spin the tires forever. 6s is plenty and will most likely still beat a 12s setup on a track. If its a tractor pulling contest thats a different story.