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mjosparky 01.28.2011 08:43 PM

Soldering jig.
 
I hope this is the right place for this.

I just finished making some charging leads for parallel charging and used the soldering jig from Vigilante. I used Dean Connectors and this jig made it soooooo easy. It took longer to get the iron out then it did to do the work. Well worth the $20.

Sparky


http://www.vigilante-rc.com/index.html

Cody.McP 01.29.2011 01:58 PM

Oh wow, I've never seen this but I need to get one. Deans is a PITA to solder sometimes. I just did 4 of them a couple of days ago and this would have turned an hour of frustrating soldering into probably 10 minutes.. What a great idea. Thanks for the review! :yipi:

BrianG 01.29.2011 02:46 PM

I just use a pair of vice grips to hold the connector. Then, just hold the wire and solder it on there. If you are soldering so long that the wire is too hot to hold, you are taking too long and need to practice soldering.

lincpimp 01.29.2011 02:59 PM

The bench vise is your freind when soldering deans. And for 20 bucks you can get a decent one from harbor freight. However, if you are always putting on deans this jig looks very handy. I might buy one, would like some better pics of it and how it holds everything.

Cody.McP 01.30.2011 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 395738)
I just use a pair of vice grips to hold the connector. Then, just hold the wire and solder it on there. If you are soldering so long that the wire is too hot to hold, you are taking too long and need to practice soldering.

Hmm well maybe I am not soldering correctly, as I can't seem to get the solder to "melt" into the wire unless I get the wire too hot too hold.. Maybe I need different solder? Or maybe I'm just no good at it. :lol:

wallot 01.30.2011 01:20 PM

who cares about deans when there are much better connectors and bench vise is much better than a single purpose jig :)

mjosparky 02.06.2011 02:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wallot (Post 395889)
who cares about deans when there are much better connectors and bench vise is much better than a single purpose jig :)

You are not the only one that reads these forums. You ever think someone else might be interested? As for Dean’s not being that great, that is just your opinion and who cares about it. :na:

Sparky

wallot 02.06.2011 08:44 AM

exactly it is my opinion and those $20 can be spent on standard vise that will do much better job and not just for soldering so you dont end up with a million of single purpose stuff

Cody.McP 02.06.2011 02:53 PM

Well I still think it's cool, I'll probably get one. Will make jobs much faster for me than a bench vise will, too.

mjosparky 02.06.2011 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallot (Post 396835)
exactly it is my opinion and those $20 can be spent on standard vise that will do much better job and not just for soldering so you dont end up with a million of single purpose stuff

You will probably be better off with the vise. It will go well with your hammer. I’ll stick to "right tool for the job" theory. :rofl:

Sparky


Look at it this way, a vise is just a large heat sink.:oh:

George16 02.06.2011 06:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjosparky (Post 396871)
You will probably be better off with the vise. It will go well with your hammer. I’ll stick to "right tool for the job" theory. :rofl:

Sparky


Look at it this way, a vise is just a large heat sink.:oh:

Unless the vise is made of plastic instead of metal :whistle::whistle::mdr:.

mjosparky 02.06.2011 11:01 PM

Yea, a vise made of plastic makes sense. :lol:

Sparky

95ROLR 02.06.2011 11:42 PM

I agree a vice is quite valuable, but I much prefer this jig...

http://www.helidirect.com/product_th...pg&w=399&h=300

http://thejigsup.net/

mjosparky 02.07.2011 12:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95ROLR (Post 396957)
I agree a vice is quite valuable, but I much prefer this jig...

http://www.helidirect.com/product_th...pg&w=399&h=300

http://thejigsup.net/

I I looked at that one and it seemed well made and versatile. But the jig from Vigilante seemed better suited to my needs.

Sparky


maneba 02.07.2011 03:59 AM

I've bought it but it's useless.

The jigs subtracts heat from the connectors you are welding (not the case of the deans) and this is a bad thing. Worst 20$ spent in rc equipment.

feistyacorn 02.07.2011 01:21 PM

I have "The Jigs Up". It works great. They even have an updated version now that allows you to rotate a deans connector both ways. The nicest thing about using a jig vs. a pliers with rubber band is that you don't mar up any of the bullet connectors. :intello:

mjosparky 02.07.2011 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maneba (Post 396979)
I've bought it but it's useless.

The jigs subtracts heat from the connectors you are welding (not the case of the deans) and this is a bad thing. Worst 20$ spent in rc equipment.

How can plastic draw heat from the connector? All I use it for is deans. It allows for a quick, clean joint with having to hold a hot wire with your fingers. If you feel it is useless I think you may be using it wrong.

Sparky

Bondonutz 02.07.2011 04:16 PM

I found one of these at Habor Freight and Tool for under $5.00 and it works perfectly for my needs as a soldering buddy.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...dProduct=10615

mjosparky 02.07.2011 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 397043)
I found one of these at Habor Freight and Tool for under $5.00 and it works perfectly for my needs as a soldering buddy.

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...dProduct=10615

I have one of those, got it the same place, and it just doesn't do what the jig can do. Trust me. :yes:

Sparky

BrianG 02.07.2011 04:33 PM

Yup, those "helping hands" sure come in handy. Especially for bullet connectors.

Bondonutz 02.07.2011 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bondonutz (Post 397043)
it works perfectly for my needs as a soldering buddy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjosparky (Post 397044)
I have one of those, got it the same place, and it just doesn't do what the jig can do. Trust me. :yes:

Sparky

Believe me, it does :na:

bruce750i 02.07.2011 04:41 PM

I soldered on a few more hands and ditched the glass on my "Helping Hands" now I call it a "Handy-Jig".

mjosparky 02.07.2011 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 397045)
Yup, those "helping hands" sure come in handy. Especially for bullet connectors.

For bullet connectors I use a small block of wood with the proper size holes drilled in it. Simple and easy.

Sparky

feistyacorn 02.07.2011 04:44 PM

The "helping hands" that I have is so poorly made it wobbles all over the table when I try to solder. It's no contest! :lol:

mjosparky 02.07.2011 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce750i (Post 397048)
I soldered on a few more hands and ditched the glass on my "Helping Hands" now I call it a "Handy-Jig".

I am not sure I understand what you mean.

Sparky

lincpimp 02.07.2011 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjosparky (Post 396871)
[Look at it this way, a vise is just a large heat sink.:oh:

I have some soft plastic jaws for my vise. Also, I have a small clamp on vise (what I was referring to) that has a plasticy type of coating on it and it works great for bullets that will transfer heat.

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-3-4-q...vise-3311.html

http://www.harborfreight.com/2-1-2-h...ise-97160.html

I like the look of the 2nd one myself, but the smaller suction one looks handy and have plastic jaws.

I use something just like this, nice to have as a supplement to my big mounted vise.

http://www.google.com/products/catal...=0CJ4BEPMCMAY#

phatmonk 02.07.2011 06:00 PM

I drilled holes in a 2x4 for my bullet connectors.works great.

lincpimp 02.07.2011 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 397055)
I drilled holes in a 2x4 for my bullet connectors.works great.

Yeah, wood is a very poor conductor of heat. I had planned to do that myself. But then I would have a holey piece of wood that someone else would likely throw away (my employess like to toos out the useful stuff and save all the junk). Maybe if I find a nice cut off I will make one and label it well, and put a disclaimer that I will castrate anyone who touches it.

mjosparky 02.07.2011 06:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phatmonk (Post 397055)
I drilled holes in a 2x4 for my bullet connectors.works great.

Quote:

For bullet connectors I use a small block of wood with the proper size holes drilled in it. Simple and easy.

Sparky
Is there an echo in here? :lol:

Sparky

snellemin 02.07.2011 06:57 PM

As the one with the baddest soldering station :lol:in this forum, a vise with plastic/rubber jaw pads is all I use for EC5, Deans, bullets and whatnot. But that "The Jigs Up" is a pretty cool tool.

SunnyHouTX 02.07.2011 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjosparky (Post 397057)
Is there an echo in here? :lol:

Sparky

Looks to me like you're the echo :whip:

I use one of these and I also have a set of helping hands. Between the two of them, I'm set for any job. I like the KillerBee jig when soldering extensions to servo/ESC leads.

mjosparky 02.07.2011 09:17 PM

Quote:

Looks to me like you're the echo
In that case you need to pay more attention.:slap:

Sparky

lincpimp 02.07.2011 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjosparky (Post 397076)
In that case you need to pay more attention.:slap:

Sparky

Making a name for yourself here Spanky...

See, I can change letters and use the cool html editing features too!

slimthelineman 02.08.2011 12:14 AM

Wow I've never seen anybody have such and issue with soldering before. Try soldering a side by side ni-cad pack back in the day. I don't know about others but after so many years and countless deans and other solder jobs I have never used a jig and never will. Y'all need to man up them sissy fingers! Lol

drw 02.08.2011 12:21 AM

i don't use vise or jigs,dean connector tighten up between jaws of crescent wrench like a mini vise,been using that for 15 years,no issues

mjosparky 02.08.2011 01:01 AM

You guys are such hardcore manly men. I posted a review about a tool that I like. I hate to drag you guys into the 21st. century but you no longer have to pump water by hand or go outside to take a crap. If you are not into using something new that’s great but why run your mouth because others may find it useful. Get a life.

George16 02.08.2011 02:55 AM

Dang bro. I know you're old and such but you need to cool down a bit. Is that what they call in your 60's crisis? Just go for a ride with your Harley or jump off of an airplane like you've done many times bafore :na::na::party::party:.

I remember you from the kiddie forum :mdr:.

You posted it here so you're going to get both good and not so good opinions.

slimthelineman 02.08.2011 03:27 AM

Ha ha ha ha........ Some people are just wound tighter than others. I think the sarcastic banter and badgering is one of my favorite parts of this forum. Yes it's a cool jig but I'm still a whipersnapper and can see without my octafocals and my hands don't shake to badly yet.... Lighten up man were just havin some fun here. Everyone has different needs some will love it and others don't need it.

BrianG 02.08.2011 10:50 AM

Ditto. It's like some people like WYSIWYG editors because they are soooo easy, while others still swear by VI despite its less-than-intuitive interface....

Bondonutz 02.08.2011 11:10 AM

Your review is appreciated and it's a clever tool but you must realize most members here have ben soldering long befor jigs were availible and have overcome the need for such in various ways. While no one has said the jig is junk or unreliable we just do certain things our way due to being the grizzled old bastards we are.
Also, lighten up. You'll pop a gasket if you get upset about a little ribbing around here, they take that as a sign of weakness and then swarm in for the kill.


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