Castle 1410 1y
 

:neutral: The damn endcap has the mounting holed, but they are'nt tapped.:diablo: I really doen't care to go through the whole send it in and sit till a new one comes so I will prolly tap the holes myself but what the heck!!! Just really pissed. I know there CS is good, but this really should'nt have happened.

That sucks! I have a 3mm tap if you don't want to buy one

No, Castle is tired of people allways swapping motors in and out, it gets old. So now they are making them to be permanently riveted into place.... duh :-)

Yeah just drill the holes out to 1/8" and use some pop-rivets.....easier than tapping. :lol:












I am just kidding, of course. Don't do that.... :smile:

The holes are there to let the magnetism out, in just the right amount, to hold the motor to the mount. No need for screws when you have 4 pole power to magnetically hold the motor to the al mount.

I heard that it actually had too much torque for conventional screws. They are now stating that you have to weld the steel endbell to the mount, whether it be aluminum or plastic. The holes are just there to give the weld some extra contact.

I may have fudged it up. I used a 3mm tap, but it is a .9 is that threads per mm. either way the last 2 holed I did'nt run the tap all the way through and they held. Maybe someone from castle will chime in on this.

Have you called them yet? IIRC, someone else had a motor that was missing threads on one or two of the holes. Can't remember what came of it, but things like this do happen from time to time.

Standard M3 (3mm) screws are .5mm pitch.

Please shoot me a PM with your shipping info. We'll get a new motor shipped out with a prepaid mailer (assuming you're in the US) so you can send that motor back to us. Normally I would just send you the rebuild kit, but we haven't received the rebuild kits for the 1410 yet.

This is the 12th one we've seen like this since it was released. We've brought it to the attention of the engineers and steps have been put in place in China to ensure that it doesn't happen again. There are probably a few more out there and we're dealing with them as the come up. Sorry for the troubles, and you're right, it should have never have happened.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Now thats good customer service, wish all companies worked like Castle

Yup, I'm in the US. PM sent Thomas. Thanks again!

Just got the motor today. That was faster than I thought! Dropping the other in the mail tomorrow after work.Thanks again for the fast responce Thomas.

It looks like the motor only is available http://www.castlecreations.com/products/nc1410.html

I can get the combo for a mere $5 more than just the motor

Yeah, you cannot beat the deal you get with the sidewinder sc combo. I think I may buy a few more just to get my fleet of 10th scale stuff up and running.

I'm running this motor in a Hyper 10TT w/a MMpro geared 42/18 for 41mph on 2s, man the thing is a powerhouse and after a full 5000mah it's ambiant temp in 80* weather..

I run mine with the sc sidewinder esc and on 3s in my pede 2wd it does not get warm, and neither does the esc. I really want to put this in a cheap tc and do some speed runs. If I can gear it high enough I think it would do 100 on 3s.

I have had the motor in my sc10 on 4s and it's just insane! With snow on the ground it was hard to get up to speed but what I did manage was still stupid fast. This is the be all end all motor for 1/10 scale off road for sure. There is no motor that can touch it for the price and still run cool. On 2s geared for about 40 the motor didn't get warm enough to melt the snow off of it. I can't wait to stick it in an SC10 4x4 when they come out.

Super little motor. On 2s geared 18/54 in my slash 4x4 it gets to the point that any good bumps cause the front to lift with the body on. tried to run the center diff but that just ended up causing the stock glue job on the front wheels to fail. really shakes things up when the foam starts to come out.:lol: It must be sick on 3s. 4s E-revonut... really? You sick man.What were you thinking? Speed freak!

STOP IT YOU GUYS!!!!
You're making me want one even more!! gosh darn it! can't you see what you're doing to me?!

Sorry:na:

i run my 1410 in a heavy crt .5 with a 19t pinion gear on 3s and i can't get mine over 120F. it doesn't take long to thermal the esc though.

currently, it will hit 55mph and it just screams. this motor is hands down the ultimate 1/10 motor. there's nothing that even comes close.

Agreed

Funny you should say that, I am building up a TA05 just for speed runs, got a Mamba Max ESC and a Novatech HSP 3300KV 2 pole rubbishy motor in there for now, would love to substitute this motor in and gear a bit more aggressively. I figure the MM speedy will be happier than the new Sidewinder tho.

Pity noone seems to have stock right now!

If the combo just would of come with a esc mounted fan instead of a motor fan. How would you get this motor hot enough to need a fan, while using a Sidewinder without a fan?:neutral: I bought 2 more combos anyways :mdr:

i was thinking the same thing.

i have yet to get the motor over 120F, but in my setup, the esc will thermal after 10 minutes of running. there is no rig out there that can make the motor get hot enough to NEED to the motor fan without hitting thermal first on the esc. i plan on adding a 30mm fan to my sct esc once i can figure out how to mount it. should i just force some m3 screws into the fins using the holes already in the fan?

edit: i plan to use the 30mm fan from the motor shroud.:lol:

I've thought about leaving the fan in the mount. Then find a way to mount the whole thing over the Esc.(ghetto style:)

IMO this combo is turning out to be so much more then I expected.


Stampede 4x4 running Losi 320s Zombiemaxx, geared 13/54, confirmed 51mph, Gens 3s 5000mah 40c No motor fan, esc mounted in the front of chassis, for better air flow.

motor 132
ESC 126
Ambient 61


SPC 8000mah 20c 17/54, confirmed 42mph

motor 125
ESC 135
ambient 60


I think that's about as hard as I would want to push it on a daily basis, but I think that is pretty dang good.

What about running this motor in a Mugen MBX6 Eco on 3s.

if the buggy is light enough, i say go for it. my crt .5 is pushing around 7lbs and it overgeared and the motor still stays pretty cool.

The Mugen MBX6Eco specs say it's 6 lbs.CC recommends 6.5 lbs maximum.

you should be fine then. it should run pretty good actually. i was expecting a lot out of the 1410 motor, considering it is based off the neu design and not only has it met my expectations, it has surprisingly exceeded them. this motor is about equivalent to a medusa 60mm motor as far as power handling. i would be shocked if you could even get that motor over 150F in that buggy, and that's without the blower.

Now don't start getting delusions of grandeur . :) A Medusa 60, it ain't. They were a bigger rotor motor. I ran one in my E-revo for about a year, the 1410 isn't gonna handle that.

But it is a great motor, and my point here is that I data logged mine, in a Pede 4x4, geared 11/54, with Trencher tires on 3s. Ran 54 mph, and pulled 116.8 amps. Had lot's of bursts in the 100 range. No temp issues, still.

I will agree that I don't think it's quite on par with a 36-60 Medusa but I think it does surpass a 36-50. There's no way I would try pushing a e-revo/maxx with just one of these. The motor is very impressive though. I think instead of the blower though they should include a fan that can snap onto the esc, the blower is a waste with this motor

hmmm...alright, well, i might have been exaggerating just a little. the 60mm medusa i had was not in exactly the best shape and it has comparable temps in the same setup geared for the same speed at a similar max rpm. the bearings were getting pretty rough too in the medusa.

i do think these would do alright in a maxx or revo geared for ~30mph. once i get my revo fixed, i will try it out and might finally have a reason to use the blower.:lol:

I run mine in my losi scte...geared 16/40....2s 65c 5600mah proteks...back to back runs without any rest (except to swap out lipos) will get this motor up too 200F...(on a 1/10th scale track pretty decent size)..it's a good thing the windings and magnets can take temps waaaaay above 200F... ;)

Just be careful with those numbers.. That magnet can handle a bit more than 200° F, but I wouldn't say way more though; and remember the temp on the outside of the can is not the temp of the magnets. I would let that little guy get a bit of rest in-between batteries; it's a good motor, but it does have its limits.

I am curious about that setup in the new Losi SCTe. We haven't received one to test with yet, and it is a bit heavier than the other 4x4 short course trucks. With that gearing on a single battery run, what kind of temps are you seeing on the motor? And are you using the Sidewinder SCT ESC or a Max Pro? Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

On the fence...
 

I am shooting for 100+ with a converted Super Nitro RS4. Currently I am running a MM on 4s with a Medusa 36/60. It is geared at 44/20. I love the Medusa but I am wondering is it time to retire it for a smaller higher Kv motor for bullet runs. The car with the battery and body is 4.69lbs. My only issue is the 1410 is smaller in diameter to the Medusa. It also seems like this should be the perfect replacement for the MM7700 in my TA-04R as it weighs a mere 3.14 lbs. I am shooting for 100+ with it also. Let me know what you all think.

The 1410 isn't smaller in diameter than the Medusa, at least not by a noticable amount