What do you guys think?
 

Im looking at buying a muggy roller. I really want one and this one is a really good deal. For $90 more hell throw in a neu 1518 1250 kv, but i already have a neu 1515 1650 kv and i dont know if the 1515 can handle it since it got a good workout in my emaxx, which im trying to sell to buy this muggy. Should i buy the 1518 with it and sell the 1515 or do you guys think the 1515 can handle it? And will a MMP put out enough for the 1518 in that big of a truck? Thanks!

Is the motor in good condition? The 1518 would be a better choice for the Muggy platform. You will want to use a MMM or MMMXL ESC with the 1518 in a big truck like that.

1515 - good (will work fine - I ran one for a year in my Muggy)
1518 - better (I'm running one now in my Muggy)
MMP - no good for either motor in the Muggy - you really need a MMM

+1 ......... if the motor is in good condition is better the 1518 than the 1515 for a muggy/truggy ......... also the 1515 is a good option, but the other is bigger and have more power

The 1518 has like 5 runs on it and the 1515 is older but still runs great. So it looks like I have to sell my MMP :grrrrrr:

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...dProduct=10370

Im thinking about this esc, since MMMs are so expensive:grrrrrr: They actually do get them in stock on occasion, but a week later theyre all gone!

you get what you pay for, just keep that in mind, i would look for a used mmm if you cant aford a new one

this es is GARBAGE ..... I saw many burneds and I dont recommend you ........ mamba monster, xerun 150, ezrun 150, leopard 150a ..... you have many other good options ;)

I've seen the Xerun 150a's and they are almost as expensive as a MMM. I hardly ever see a ezrun 150a, and have never seen a leopard 150a.

go for the "old" ezrun 150a, now available as V2 for a good price. I have burned two hk150a, dunno if it's bad luck or not, or the damaged Leopard Motor. Before that, I had already a HK150a as a spare esc, and was quite happy with it. I think, it also stayed cooler then the newer models.

I got a used ezrun 150a esc, and very happy with it. good esc.

anyways, you could go for a ezrun 150a V2, they are a little cheaper then the xeruns.

What do you guys think of the muggy? It has sway bars on it and would come with some savage wheels but no 17 mm hexes but i have some. Are there any problems with it? Should i buy stiffer springs?

The Muggy is a great truck.
If you want to upgrade, RC Raven springs:

http://www.rcraveninc.com/c=YmFuCd98.../losilstparts/

Thanks brian015! But i have to get the truck first. With the 1518 will 20c lipos put out enough with say a xerun esc or will it cook the esc?

Do it right and do it once! If it means saving up for an extra week or two or three save your money and buy things once, it pays off within 6 months. Buy a cheap esc and you'll be buying another very soon, buy a mmm or similar and it has a warranty so if it does go up in smoke it's covered. Don't skimp out and buy 20C lipos, you can get 30C+ lipos cheap. If your going to buy from HK then buy your lipos there and get some decent ones. Also keep in mind that that 1518 is better suited to 6-8s lipo. That esc you linked to only does 4s. IMHO minimum requirement would be a MMM and a 6s 5000mah 30C

it depends more on the kv / rpm you choose. I think with something around 1400kv or lower, on 6s you should be fine. a proper gearing is also important, geared to the moon you would kill any esc. xerun/ezrun are solid ESC's.

you could also go for a leopard 4082.

probably you should get some 25c lipos. Nevertheless, those C-Ratings are often marketing. Personally, I don't see any difference between my 30c- and 20c Tunrnigy lipos. they both get warm, they both have some voltage drift, they both are good batteries.

when they are testing lipos, in some cases it shows that the actual c-rating is lower then the rating on the pack. even with brand lipos...

I think the muggy is a dammn cool car. go for it! and please, report the build here.:smile:

I was wondering about using the 20c's just cus i already have some. Illl look at buying a MMM, see if i can find one cheap woth the money from my 1515 and my mmp. Batts are gonna be a killer! I already have 2 40c 2s lipos so ill buy 2 3s 40c lipos.

The way i see it is i pay $250 for the roller with motor and servo, sell my 1515 for $120 or so, sell my mmp for $80, and i wont have much in the muggy. But, ill need a ne esc and batts somewhere along the way, and i could even sell the 1518 for $170 or so and buy the leopard. I think thats a pretty good deal!

If im going to buy the 4074 i think im better off using my 1515. Ill just keep the 1518.

While we're at the topic of muggy conversions.
Does anyone know a place where I can still get most/all muggy parts as spares?
Because I have one lying here that was given to me, but it had a head on colision so needs a few spares. Especially front bulks, steering parts and such things.
And since I'm planning on making a truck for pulling out of it I want to put my CC1717 in. So I would like to get HD diffs and aluminum diff cases as well.

Many LST2/XXL parts fit the Muggy (bulkheads, arms, knuckles, axles, bumpers, etc.). Not inner bulkhead or steering parts, though. I get almost all of my Muggy parts on eBay.

Just bought the muggy! Heres a link: http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...shless-fs.html

Looks good.
Can you tell me how good a fit that 8ight radio box is with the muggy chassis when you get it?

No problem, but youre going to have to wait a few days. The extra turnbuckles are just for reinforcement for the center diff. Can the ezrun 150a's handle 6s and 4 pole motors? I found one already for $70.

and do any of you guys know if the traxxas blue 17mm hexes will work on the muggy? or do i have to buy some other ones (HPI savage)?

for sure you can run 4- and 6-pole motors with ezrun/xerun. I have a tenshock 6pole run by a ezrun 150a.

No, the traxxas hexes will not fit, they are for 6mm axles, the muggy has 8mm axles.

the Muggy uses more or less the same CVA that I'm using in my ERBE, I used Mugen MBX6 hexes but any 1:8 buggy/truggy/MT ones should work since they're relatively universal.

Find em cheap on eBay. Shouldn't cost you more than $20.

Good luck with that. That's quite high for used equipment. 90 would be a better # for a used 1515, 120-ish for the 1518.

[QUOTE=yzinger02;407891.The extra turnbuckles are just for reinforcement for the center diff...[/QUOTE]

The turnbuckles are actually to help keep the chassis from bending. Its know for having a weak chassis. At some point you'll want to upgrade to the stiffer chassis plate.
The Muggy is a great truck. Look around there are several Muggy build threads (cant remember where mine is!!!)

Ok thanks for all the help guys! I sold my mmp last night and im just waiting for a PM back for the ezrun. The bracing for the CD is just what the guy said, and im not too hard on my stuff so i think i should be fine with the chassis. Do they make any skidplates for the muggy so the chassis doesnt get torn up?

FYI: the bracing is for what JThiessen said - the Muggy chassis is a known weakness. The CD mount needs no extra support. Those turnbuckles will actually place more stress on the CD mount. I've seen others brace the bulkheads like that, but I prefer just to tie the front and rear bulkheads together with a long piece of Al angle and not connect it to the CD mount. My Muggy is pretty solid now:

http://i779.photobucket.com/albums/y..._0693Small.jpg

Ok ill do that if i can find some aluminum. Im thinking about making a custom skidplate from a rpm skid from a emaxx/tmaxx.

If anyone knows where to get a 150a esc for a good price could you please let me know? I know it sounds kinda dumb but I'm only 15 and have to pay for all my own R/C stuff unlike my rich friend who has $2,000 in a emaxx that he barely payed a dime for and he's still not happy. So if you could please let me know that would be great! I dont have a job so the only money I have right now is from when I sell my 1515.

Your 15, it's time to start looking for a job then!

I have but my dad wont let me, i have a brother and he and i take turns working at my dads mechanic shop every week. So if i dont have anything that i have to go to i make $40 on a good day every 2 weeks. If it was up to me id be working every day! Its not like i have a work ethic problem or anything, i have a 4.0 GPA.

8th scale is the wrong place to be if you're strapped for cash lol, especially with the monster trucks. Building my 'budget' Revo still cost me $200+ even though all I had to buy was the chassis (steering/skids/body mounts/screw set/transmission), motor and battery. I already had a full set of extras for the wheels/tires, shafts/bulkheads/arms/hexes and the other electronics (aka the most expensive stuff). I realize that the Revo is fairly expensive so far as monster trucks go, but you cannot really expect to have fun with an MT when you know you can't cover the cost of replacement parts.

That's what I think, anyway. There's been many ESC suggestions, but I only have personal experience with the Mamba Monster. It's guaranteed by Castle to work with all 15 and 17 series motors they sell/sold (151x, 152x, 1717).

Another thing to look at if you're still using mechanical brakes is to use an air-based ESC (ie. Phoenix ICE) with PiStix to convert the 1.5ms-neutral signal to 1.0ms zero throttle the air ESC expects. Radio mixing or a servo Y adapter will take care of the braking servo. A good thing about air ESC's is that their BECs are generally stronger, since they have to support several servos at once. For example, the Mamba Monster has a 3A BEC but the Phoenix ICE series I use is 5A, and it can be adjusted up to 7.0v.

I think that by the time i buy the mechanical brake setup including the servo im better off just buying a land esc. Thanks for the idea though. And by the way i really like 1/8 scale the best for some reason, so im just digging myself into a deeper and deeper hole, but i dont mind because i have fun doing it. :)

sell a kidney or something, and get an MMM.

The truck is supposed to ship out thursday, so itll be awhile before it arrives. I think im going to keep both kidneys.

Ok ive narrowed it down to 2 esc's: a used MMM or a new ezrun 150a off of ebay. The MMMs are hard to come by, and are a little more expensive than a brand new ezrun. What is your guys' opinion of the ezrun vs the MMM? Thanks!

very good 2 escs ...... I have 2 of each ......... sincerely I preffer the xerun/ezrun but the mmm is great :D