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Thomas Porfert 08.11.2011 01:05 PM

1717's back in stock for a VERY limited time.
 
It appears there were a few boxes of the 1717/1Y 1580kv motors buried in a deep dark corner in the warehouse. There are about 75 in stock, so get 'em while they last. They are selling for the original sale price of $70.00. http://www.castlecreations.com/produ...le_motors.html

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Finnster 08.11.2011 01:40 PM

cool

TexasSP 08.11.2011 03:28 PM

Nice!

j.f.s 08.12.2011 12:22 AM

Very nice, especially since your manufacturing costs has increased! Ordered one as soon as I saw this post :yipi:

simplechamp 08.12.2011 03:54 PM

I take it they are all gone? Don't see any link to buy them on that page.

Thomas Porfert 08.12.2011 04:00 PM

Unfortunately we did sell out earlier this afternoon; we sold 82 in less than 36 hours. Sorry to those who missed the opportunity. If we happen to find anymore, I'll be sure post it up here immediately. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

Emaxx_Quebec 08.12.2011 04:07 PM

Any update on the rebuilt kit for it?

Thanks

Thomas Porfert 08.12.2011 04:22 PM

Unfortunately we will not be doing the rebuild kits for the 1717, 1518 and 1520. Our facilities in China are so overwhelmed, it is not feasible to make repair kits for discontinued motors. Sorry for any inconvenience or frustration this may cause.

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

brian015 08.12.2011 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emaxx_Quebec (Post 410711)
Any update on the rebuilt kit for it?

Thanks

You can just buy an extra 1717 right now - about the same price as a rebuild kit would be :yes:

TexasSP 08.12.2011 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 410713)
You can just buy an extra 1717 right now - about the same price as a rebuild kit would be :yes:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thomas Porfert (Post 410710)
Unfortunately we did sell out earlier this afternoon; we sold 82 in less than 36 hours. Sorry to those who missed the opportunity. If we happen to find anymore, I'll be sure post it up here immediately. Thanks!

Thomas Porfert
Tech Support
Castle Creations

They are sold out. So no rebuild kits, not motors.

suicideneil 08.12.2011 08:22 PM

Someone buy a selection of Leopard motors and measure the rotors... :whistle:

FG101C 08.12.2011 10:34 PM

Maybe I missed the memo but the 1717, 1518 and 1520's are discontinued?

j.f.s 08.13.2011 12:23 AM

Yes. About the same time as the last clearance sale they (officially) were discontinued IIRC. I have a 1518 and would love to have a spare but I guess now the 1717 will be my backup lol.

JERRY2KONE 08.13.2011 04:41 AM

Hold that bus.
 
Hold that bus there just a minute. IIRC Patric told us that CC was working on doing another limited runof the 1717's and a few others because of the high demand on them. I mean come on after seeing how they just sold off 82 motors in 36 hours that should tell you something. I would venture to say that the 1717 is one of the most popular motors sold in the last year. Of course the pricing probably had something to do with that, but the various uses for this motor have proven it to be a must have for a lot of 1/8th & 1/5th scale vehicles. Sure there are other motors out there that do pretty well in these applications, but at the price range upwards of $250-$350. So why not do another run of the 1717?

brian015 08.13.2011 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JERRY2KONE (Post 410727)
Sure there are other motors out there that do pretty well in these applications, but at the price range upwards of $250-$350. So why not do another run of the 1717?

They would have to charge at least $300 for 1717's if they made more now, based on the current price of the CC 1515. I don't think the $70 sale is a good indication of how many people would pay full price for them.

TexasSP 08.13.2011 09:05 AM

I picked one up because the deal was so good and the fact prices have gotten so high.

Without those two factors together I would not have. I have no application for this motor at the time so it will sit until I do.

I really don't know what I anticipate doing with it at this moment. I just knew that they would go fast and it would be a good motor to have for different applications.

j.f.s 08.13.2011 04:56 PM

Yeah, was the same for me and since I've got a 1518 and the repair kit for it is non existing I thought that $70 for a quality motor is a deal too good to pass up on.

I know that the 1515 repair kit can be used for the 1518, apart from the rotor, but the price tag on that kit is in the $45-55 range. I'm still beating myself up for not buying two 1518's during the last sale.

CerberusVI 08.15.2011 08:00 PM

Well i ordered a 1717 the other day when this was posted and just received it..Now i know why these 1717s where in the corner of the warehouse... I got a 1717/17 1580kv with a 6mm shaft and closed endbell. which is odd because the heli version has 6mm shaft and open endbell... I'm kinda frustated at this point..

brian015 08.15.2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CerberusVI (Post 410816)
Well i ordered a 1717 the other day when this was posted and just received it..Now i know why these 1717s where in the corner of the warehouse... I got a 1717/17 1580kv with a 6mm shaft and closed endbell. which is odd because the heli version has 6mm shaft and open endbell... I'm kinda frustated at this point..


IIRC, the first batch of the car version was mistakenly made with the 6mm shaft.

CerberusVI 08.15.2011 08:15 PM

and I guess that's the one i got :no:

suicideneil 08.15.2011 09:55 PM

No worries, you can buy 6mm bore pinions, or you can just do like 99% of other guys did in your situation and grind the shaft down; all you need is padded vice and a metal file / dremel and some digital calipers. Stick the motor in a bag and poke the shaft through it to keep out the filings, then work back & forth along the shaft ( ahem.. ) and keep checking until your 5mm bore pinions fit snuggly. Either that, or sell your $70 motor for a large profit on a heli/ plane forum...

TexasSP 08.15.2011 10:10 PM

I think I just dreamed up a use for mine. Looking at building a scale 6x6 beast. Thinking the 1717 on 4s will be perfect. This thing will be heavy so I need a ton of torque.

FG101C 08.15.2011 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 410820)
poke the shaft through it, then work back & forth along the shaft ( ahem.. )

ROFL that made me laugh.

Pdelcast 08.16.2011 05:07 PM

SORRY guys, unfortunately these motors were made with a 6mm shaft (that's why they were off to the side in the warehouse.)

If anyone is unhappy with the fact that they got a 6mm shaft, please let me know. We will give a full refund to anyone who wants to return the motor.

(P.S. -- I didn't know about the sale until after the motors were gone ... and I would have suggested charging $150, and not $80 :yes:)

Thanx!

Patrick

freddy 08.16.2011 05:27 PM

Is it possible to drill out an 5mm pinion to 6mm with an normal hand held drill?
im using novak ones, if it makes a difference(found them to be the best durability wise)

and Pdelcast it was 70usd not 80

1truckerdan 08.16.2011 05:31 PM

CC thank you for the price break, some of us are very greatful for the chance to own these motors.

1truckerdan 08.16.2011 05:31 PM

The bore HAS to be dead center. Use a drill press!

freddy 08.16.2011 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1truckerdan (Post 410856)
The bore HAS to be dead center. Use a drill press!

the drill will follow the existing hole, right?

Was more concern about the hardness of the pinion than getting it 110% straight, guess i just gonna give it a try. dont have an drill press, and dont want to bug other to help me

if i sand the shaft down from 6mm to 5mm, i think there will be more risk about getting it straight than drilling the pinion. atleast its better to risk a pion than the shaft.

TexasSP 08.16.2011 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 410853)
SORRY guys, unfortunately these motors were made with a 6mm shaft (that's why they were off to the side in the warehouse.)

If anyone is unhappy with the fact that they got a 6mm shaft, please let me know. We will give a full refund to anyone who wants to return the motor.

(P.S. -- I didn't know about the sale until after the motors were gone ... and I would have suggested charging $150, and not $80 :yes:)

Thanx!

Patrick

For 70 bucks I'll deal with the 6mm shaft. :intello:

I am just happy to be getting one since I already came up with a need for it. I wasn't sure then some planning and ideas just all came together and the motor will fit the bill perfectly. :yipi:

freddy 08.16.2011 06:01 PM

Castle is gracious

1truckerdan 08.16.2011 06:08 PM

A few have filed,sanded, or turned down the shaft so 5mm pinions will fit. The shaft is hardened. Take your time and do it right, because all the gears you use have to line up....

brian015 08.16.2011 06:29 PM

If you can use 14, 15, or 16t 6mm pinion, Kershaw Designs has them at a very reasonable price.

Otherwise I'd turn down the shaft to 5mm rather than attempt to drill out a pinion. Follow Neil's instructions:

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil (Post 410820)
No worries, you can buy 6mm bore pinions, or you can just do like 99% of other guys did in your situation and grind the shaft down; all you need is padded vice and a metal file / dremel and some digital calipers. Stick the motor in a bag and poke the shaft through it to keep out the filings, then work back & forth along the shaft ( ahem.. ) and keep checking until your 5mm bore pinions fit snuggly. Either that, or sell your $70 motor for a large profit on a heli/ plane forum...

He doesn't say it explicitly, but you want to have the motor spinning while you hold the file up against it to turn it down - that should give you a perfectly round shaft.

suicideneil 08.16.2011 09:38 PM

It helps if the shaft is spinning yeah :lol:

There are a few threads around with great pictures, here is Linc's:

http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/show...&postcount=261

easy peasy :yes:

Pdelcast 08.16.2011 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freddy (Post 410854)
Is it possible to drill out an 5mm pinion to 6mm with an normal hand held drill?
im using novak ones, if it makes a difference(found them to be the best durability wise)

and Pdelcast it was 70usd not 80

$70? ? ?


OMG, I'm gonna go shoot somebody.... :lol:

1truckerdan 08.16.2011 11:22 PM

I am just happy I got a couple this time. I didn't have the funds to get any when they sold out last time.
Thank the person for all of us that got a second chance before you shoot them.
Daniel

JERRY2KONE 08.17.2011 12:30 AM

No
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by freddy (Post 410857)
the drill will follow the existing hole, right?

Was more concern about the hardness of the pinion than getting it 110% straight, guess i just gonna give it a try. dont have an drill press, and dont want to bug other to help me

if i sand the shaft down from 6mm to 5mm, i think there will be more risk about getting it straight than drilling the pinion. atleast its better to risk a pion than the shaft.

Yes the drill bit will follow the original hole, BUT a handheld drill will not give you a clean straight hole creating vibration. Sanding the shaft can work better and if you have to drill out the pinion use a drill press to keep the hole straight.

brainanator 08.17.2011 02:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 410866)
$70? ? ?


OMG, I'm gonna go shoot somebody.... :lol:

I had to laugh when I read this.....good stuff! :lol: bet the customers are glad nobody asked you about these motors! haha

RC-Monster Mike 08.17.2011 10:32 AM

pinion ream
 
enlarging the bore on a hardened pinion is no trivial task. A lathe is the best tool for the job, along with specialized tooling(a normal drill bit will not make it through). Even if you were successful in opening the bore, you now have .5mm less meat at the set screw area, so it is much more likely to back out. Reducing the shaft is a much better idea and isn't terribly hard with a dremel and grinding wheel.

Pdelcast 08.17.2011 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brainanator (Post 410871)
I had to laugh when I read this.....good stuff! :lol: bet the customers are glad nobody asked you about these motors! haha

Well, when you consider that today JUST THE MAGNETs that go in the 1717 cost more than $70.00....

It's a little silly. But some people got a GREAT deal. :party:

skellyo 08.17.2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pdelcast (Post 410880)
Well, when you consider that today JUST THE MAGNETs that go in the 1717 cost more than $70.00....

It's a little silly. But some people got a GREAT deal. :party:

I'd hate to see what it costs for the magnets in a 2028. One can only imagine given the ~$150 price increase.


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