Traxxas xo-1!
 

Now that the traxxas XO-1's are in peoples hands...bottom line I wanna race.I have a ofna lx1e steve neu 1521 2 extra winds and i live in miami fl and race 300ft or better and would like to start the first race for franklin and then all or bust 3 franklins oh yeah half a franklin lock out fee so if you dont show or considerably late you owe half a franklin show up make your adjustments line up cash out.1/8 scale or bigger is what i race.line up i dare you seriously.Plastic melter

OHHHS SHATT GUYS guess what ive beaten 3 not 2 but 3 traxxas XO-1's.Fifst of all i told you that nothing traxxas builds is ment for 100+ period !! Now lets see why ive beaten them....the XO-1 is not stable Dude i told those pea brain people at my local hobby shop at the time i first glanced at the XO-1 it was junk they said "why you hating"?I said the thing is a parachute damit they said "No its designed by a computer to plant the chassis on the road" then these dummies showed me the video of the car in a glass case fully enclosed doing 100+ woww now i see why nic case told me speed runs are for geniuses.I SCREAMED the cars in an artificial enviorment as soon as the natural elements touch this car its over and soo started the bets,my ofna lx1e pro mod vs the hobby shop's owners XO-1.GUYS it wasnt even close no XO-1 EVEN finished the race spinning out parachuting in the wind i mean great god damm i even raced one while i was using 4s.Now the last one i raced the guys XO-1 slid soooo farrrr he burned a hole..

in his cars body look on you tube the car is basura so far the the traxxas XO-1's bought me a thunder power 65c pro race 5000 pack thanks traxxas! tip for all XO-1 owners spray teflon kevlar truck bed liner in the inside of the body it will stop so much flexing find it at any automotive store.total tally since XO-1's release ive made from racing 325 dollars,fasools,yen,euros,iras,puonds hahaaa.

I have a brushless RC8 buggy with a 1518 castle motor geared for about 70 and verified by GPS....but anyway...it is rock solid stable at 70mph. I can even throw it around back and forth at that speed swaying back and forth down my street.

It does not lift up and blow over...not even close...completely rock solid.

Now, I had a full bodied 1/8 scale LXE onroad car that would blow over at about 50mph if you nailed the gas. I sold it a week later because it was on its lid more than its wheels. Went back to my buggy and the stability it offers.

Something about the full body that acts like a parachute once a little bit of air gets under it. buggies just dont lift up and blow over like that.

I say the X0-1 owners should try to take the body off and all that crazy ground effects stuff that causes their cars to get airborn the second they go sideways off and find some type of buggy body. I bet the X0-1 owners will actually find more stability....with something other than a full body..... I could be wrong...would not be the first time...haha.

That is my experience with full bodies and such....my experience may not be what the masses have seen.

But something tells me the x0-1 would do better without the full body and flat bottom ground effects acting like a parachute.....All I know is my RC8 buggy has never even come close to blowing over at 70mph. And it is not even lowered!!!!

I believe that the engineers have done a good job with this on road car. The use the aerodynamics to help pull the car down to the road. Like a wing only in the opposite direction. The on road car that you had obviously did not have that benefit. They use some similar principles like the Indy cars. If you could invert an Indy car at speed it would hold the road because of this effect. I heard that these cars are a little unstable under 50 mph that is about when the ground effects start to kick in after that it sucks down to the road and is stable as can be. I have a Losi 8ight that will run just like your buggy and it too is stable at around 70 mph, I have not had it to 100mph, but I bet it would be a whole lot different. I'm sure it would not be as stable.

Such a cool car...I am so torn on getting one. I like to drive aggressive and my road that I drive on is probably not smooth enough for the XO. Oh well.

1/8th scale wings are like open wheel F1/Cart/Indy cars. They produce mad amounts of downforce at the expense of high drag from the wing.

A 1/8th scale buggy at 100mph if it still had its original wing will be supremely stable. But it'll require a ton of power to reach 100mph, more than the XO-1 needs due to the massive drag the wing will generate.

Almost all of my old nitro cars that topped out around 55mph would gain another 5-7mph without the rear wing. With the rear wing at those speeds there was massive understeer.

Now fab up a mount and stick a 1/8th wing on the FRONT of your buggy too and it'll stick like glue to the road.

hey man you're cool!
 

Hey 100% i agree with every thing you said to the t. My ofna would blow back also just like you said but i took off the "high downforce wing"which was made for tracks i put in a tri level wing and removed two levels because the wing dosent need downforce at least for me but as you say with the ofna high downfoce wing at 65 mph it blows back ,we call it dancing which is bad for racing really bad! As for the buggy's body i use industrial velcro all around and i have vented fully the body for positive air flow and cooling .The guy i raced took the body off too....... spinnnn outt it also needs weight!!!

#YOUTUBE TRAXXAS XO-1 they dont go down the street.and as for1/8th scale buggy needing alot of power listen the traxxas XO-1s gearing is 34 tooth mod 1 pinnion gear and 44 or 46 spur or what ever on 25c batteries unless you swap em out now Im geared 33/44 with 65c batteries i honestly get 3 passes then kaput capice.FACT when a rc BUGGY goes 70mph the force is 80 to 90 pounds of pressure on the wing look at it like this a midget stands on our rc wing and a elephant stands on a top fuel dragster.

Congrats,

But we already knew that "pea brained" LHS workers don't know jack 95% of time. You said they never even finished a race. :lol:

FACT: that is totally false. For one the wing mount would most likely break with 80 pounds on it. Second of all the bottom of the buggy would be dragging on the ground since there is no way those little shock springs are going to support 80 pounds. Take the wing and mount off of your buggy and hop in the back of a truck and hold that wing up in the air, have your friend drive at 70mph and then tell us if you still think there is 80 pounds of downforce.

Why not install a speed-sensitive wing that adjusts angle via servo?

Well I'll I'm not sure about if the wing stays will take 80lbs but the springs might as there is probably 70lbs of lift under the car to offset the downforce...

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Listen dude i work on top fuel dragsters i refuse to argue with you but let me say this,can you name somthing that goes stupid fast that doesent have a wing?The degree/angle always determinates how much force the back wheels apply along with suspention or struts i.e "hookin upp".These brushless cars never hook up you could be at 80 mph and then..tire spin they skate the street the whole way unless you're a beast with throttle control then you wont smoke the tires.by the way what you wanna do wanna line up if the race is right ill fly you down here!

SEE MANNN why did you put this idea in my B.G.huh now i have another project muhuu huu haha<evil laugh lets do it

I wish I had read this thread in its entirety rather than just catching the post that got my attention.

So much mis-information!!!!

The Traxxas XO-1 is far more aerodynamic than your buggy Anunaki. It has a much lower Coefficient of Drag, which means it requires less power to reach the same speeds. It also will produce more downforce with less drag as well than a 1/8th scale buggy.

This is due to the fact that the body is fairly sealed, and the undertray will reduce the parachute effect most 1/10th and 1/8th GT bodies have because they don't have a tray. With a smooth body tray and the rear diffuser will cause the air under the car to decelerate when it hits the expanded section in the rear, again increasing rear downforce with a minimal increase in drag as compared to a full on wing. It takes advantage of the vacuum behind the car.

The full width front, canards, and splitter work together to reduce airflow under the body, and increase downforce on the front wheels. The splitter reduces underbody air flow, acting like an air dam. The side canards increase downforce, and work exactly like a wing does.

There is a NACA duct in the tray This is draws air from undertray over the motor for cooling.

How does all this compare with a 1/8th scale buggy? MUCH more efficient. Does a 1/8th scale buggy with wing produce more downforce? Yes. The massive rear wing creates alot of downforce, and its location aft of the rear wheels leverages that downforce on the rear wheels at much slower speeds. The further back the wing is mounted the more leverage it has. This much downforce is not needed for high speed runs. The wings are designed to produce usable downforce in the average speeds seen by buggies which is between 10 and 50mph depending on track size and layout. A 1/8th scale buggy much like an F1 car is CONSTANTLY accelerating. Buggies NEVER reach terminal speed on a track, most of them are far too short.

How about the partial body vs full body? Well the partial body is mostly sealed so the parachute affect is minimized, and the smaller area means that airflow has less area to act against if air gets under the car. However the partial body exposes the shock towers, wheels and suspension components directly to external air flow. This is a massive drag increase and creates tons of turbulence. 1/8th buggies due to their body design have little to NO downforce in front, in fact they have a fair bit of LIFT.

Another item to consider is the tire rotation, at 50mph the bottom of the tire where it contacts the ground is technically not moving at all relative to the chassis. However the TOP of the tire is moving TWICE as fast as the chassis. You don't wanna know what this does to the airflow. Massive turbulence. Look at the front wing of an F1 car, notice how the wing is designed to direct air up and OVER the tires? Thats to reduce the turbulence i just described.

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Also, the X0-1's OFFICIAL top speed is 100mph, but in all likely hood based on some of the video's I've seen showing telemetry readings a fully charged pack will allow it to reach speeds in excess of 110mph. I wouldn't be surprised to find out its top speed is closer to 115mph.

I'd say the wing stays can probably withstand about 30-40lbs of force. But that its unlikely a 1/8th scale wing will produce that kind of downforce. I agree that the suspension is not designed to take that kind of force. I know I can easily press on the back of my truggy and bottom it out. I'm running AE 16mm bronze springs in the rear which are rated a 4.09lb/in. The rear shocks are filled with 60wt oil. I'll probably step down to 50wt fluid, the rear can get unsettled in rhythm sections.

Oops, accidently double posted while editing.

So you changed oil on a dragster once and now you are a pro in aerodynamics? J/K :lol: A quick google search came up with anywhere from 3500 to 7500lb downforce on a top fuel car wing. Elephants weigh up to 25,000lbs and average about 16,000lbs. So yes I guess it could be like an elephant sitting on the wing of a dragster...a very small elephant. So now lets scale up the 80 pounds of force on the buggy wing @ 70mph, it comes to 5120lbs at a scale speed of 560mph. Pretty low compared to the dragster. The math shows its plausible. Ill admit I was wrong. And no, im not traveling accross the country to drag race an RC car, however if you want to pay to send me, my doorslammer car and my 2 man crew down there to drag race against your similar street legal car I would be all over that! And no, putting a license plate on the back of a top fuel car does not mean it is street legal! :lol:

Here's my set up now lx1e Steve neu built 1521 thunderPower 6s 65c Mamba XL bec disabled added capacitor banks alpha tires rear different spooled. All shocks have no shock oil no downforce in wing and GPS 123mph radar gun124mph the same one you see in my avatar i will say no more my noble knight

My post got deleted at Traxxas when I called out traxxas employee sofasticantseeit on him never seeing a 3 lbs car go 120mph(Philldog car). He claimed that the equipment alone to do so would take 3lbs. Told homeboy that a 2.5lbs dragsters go over 100mph in less than 1.3seconds within 132ft. And before you know it, my post and his post never excisted LOL.

^That's gone already? I just read that this morning. Funny stuff.

Try to to delete it over here sofasticantbbelieved.LOL

Amazing thats what they do though the truth hurts man and I second what
you said.

Most Bonneville cars are much heavier than you would think it helps plant the car along with the proper aerodynamics. Reducing weight helps acceleration but not overall top speed, even a little extra weight in the right place will help

If I were in Florida, I would take that race for fun. Might not qualify but I think my Super RS4 on 6s would get you. Not a 33rd but pretty close.

Exactly, weight is free downforce without drag penalty. Most salt flats cars are very heavy.

Terminal top speed is not determined by weight. In fact, weight has little to no effect at all on terminal top speed. Its greatest factor is acceleration (either longitudinal, or lateral)

Terminal top speed is most affected by aerodynamic drag and the power required to overcome that drag.

Hey guys please please youtube" traxxas xo1 review:vid 3 after run review by squirelod or somthing. video 3 guys must see

What part was a must see? The fact that he uses Deans connectors for a high amperage setup and wonders why the ESC went up in smoke and solder started melting off. Not the brightest bulb around.

That guys videos have been the joke of RC for quite a while now.

I pushed Squirrelies buttons on youtube, when I called him out using Deans.

I can't comment on his ( retarded ) videos as he blocked me :lol:

I strongly suggest everyone gives him hell for being an idiot ( deans are rated for 65amps continuous, go figure they melted and the esc died ).

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• I like your vids, but man you made a booboo with this setup. You can't use Deans for a high amperage setup like the XO is and wonder why the ESC went up in smoke and solder started melting.
  
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• @Snellemin So, wait a minute-
  You are saying that the first ESC, WHICH WAS STOCK AND ON TRAXXAS CONNECTORS STRAIGHT FROM FACTORY, which also, HAVE THE SAME RELATIVE RESISTANCE AS DEANS, blew up because the wrong connectors were on!?!?!?!
  Then the second ESC which had my Deans on it, it blew up because I used connectors with the same relative resistance as the factory???
  I just want to make sure we establish a Squirrel "booboo" on STOCK or a "traxxas didnt use bullet connectors" "booboo"
  
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• @Snellemin Further, I have used Deans on high powered with no issues. The Deans went up in smoke, much like the traxxas connectors did, as the ESC crapped out, and as the ESC had a class C fire burning it, the heat from the wires connected to the wire was hot enough to melt the solder and detach from the wire.
  This is on stock traxxas and the deans.
  I have used Deans and 5/6mm bullets on high power. On good ESCs the temps on the deans were not hot.
  
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• @Squirrelod I said High Amperage and not High Power(Watts). I too use Deans with high burst of Amps, but never continuously. Deans are rated around 65A. Do you really think the Traxxas XO setup pulls 65A continuously?? The Castle ESC uses 6.5mm bullet connectors for the motor alone. Doesn't that alone give you an indication that Deans would not suffice?
  
  
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He's saying how much better it is to use electrical tape over shrink tube as he's waiting for his 3RD ESC replacement.

:lol::lol:

Why all the talk about which connector to use? Just twist the wires together and use wirenuts. :smile:

It has to be the green ones :lol:

You need little stickers with flames on it ,and only then would you know that they are capable of handling whatever you throw at it.:lol:

:lol:Wow the Chipmuck dude is on fire. Now he says to blame Traxxas for the use of their connectors. Then he says the MMM is a ticking bomb. A Tekin or MGM with Deans would not have smoked.:rofl:

Imagine if he had combined that with all the extra power of Maxx Amps batteries!!!!!

I highly doubt the Dean's plug is in any way responsible for the flame. Rated for 65amps continuous or not, they can safely burst MUCH higher current. A properly soldered Dean's plug(or Traxxas plug) can flow as much or more current with similar resistance than standard 10g or 12g wire and average draw will be less than 65amps almost certainly over the course of a run. Hell a 30 amp circuit in a house requires 10g wire to meet building code. I agree that the Castle bullets are better, but highly doubt the Dean's or Traxxas plugs to be the cause of anything here.