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rchippie 02.09.2012 09:30 PM

Used i pod ?.
 
I'm looking to get a used i pod for my early morning Training rides. What is a good price ?. I'm only looking for music capability no video needed. If possible i would like it to hold about 3 to 5 hours of music. Thanks mike

Also if you have a used one your looking to get rid of. I have some older rc stuff to offer in trade.

BrianG 02.09.2012 09:38 PM

Any particular reason for ipod specifically? There are tons of music players on the market that you can get new and aren't expensive.

Assuming mp3 format, 2MB/min quality (generous estimate), 5 hours requires less than 1GB of storage. Pretty much all devices have at least 2GB these days. If your ride is bumpy, I'd suggest something with flash-based memory rather than harddrive. Takes less battery power too.

rchippie 02.09.2012 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417726)
Any particular reason for ipod specifically? There are tons of music players on the market that you can get new and aren't expensive.

Assuming mp3 format, 5 hours requires less than 1GB of storage. Pretty much all devices have at leasr 2GB these days. If your ride is bumpy, I'd suggest something with flash-based memory rather than harddrive. Takes less battery power too.


No particular reason. That was the only one i really new about. I would be looking for fairly good sound quality. Some times the ride gets bumpy but not real bad. This would be for my road bike. Any certain ones you would suggest ?. I'm not really tech savvy. So the easier to load music the better. ease of use is important as well.

BrianG 02.09.2012 09:51 PM

Haven't been in the market for a while, so not sure what's good/reliable, but a quick look at user reviews at walmart, bestbuy, etc should clue you in easily. They pretty much all load via usb and appear like an external drive to windows/mac/linux, so loading is drag n drop without software/drivers on any recent OS.

Since you only want music and may fall on the ground at some point, I wouldn't get any with a big fancy (and fragile) screen as long as you can see what's playing.

rchippie 02.09.2012 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417728)
Haven't been in the market for a while, so not sure what's good/reliable, but a quick look at user reviews at walmart, bestbuy, etc should clue you in easily. They pretty much all load via usb and appear like an external drive to windows/mac/linux, so loading is drag n drop without software/drivers on any recent OS.

Since you only want music and may fall on the ground at some point, I wouldn't get any with a big fancy (and fragile) screen as long as you can see what's playing.

what do you think about this one ?.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855616109

I would like one were i could, with the push of a button change up music category's ( once set up), like 80's 90's 2000's & metal . That would make it much easier & safer on the bike.

suicideneil 02.09.2012 10:13 PM

They're all much of a muchness really, if you just want basic functionality; I just bought some nasty little chinese thing for £12/$18 with a display and built-in FM tuner- it plays mp3 & wmv files just fine, uses a removable microSD 4GB card ( handy ), and gives 3-5 hours playback- plus it's tiny & light.

The trick for good sound quality is to replace the nasty included headphones with some decent ones- opinions vary depending on your price range, but the recommended ones I've looked at are:

Sony MDR EX 300/500 ( or their newer 310/510 range )
Sennheiser Cx300
Soundmagic PL 30

I'm looking at getting some of the soundmagic PL30's myself as they are the cheapest whilst still offering great quality ( I'm tight :lol: ).

brian015 02.09.2012 10:33 PM

I use one of these Sansa Clip 4gb players - reasonable price, very small, built in clip on back, drop and drag files from your computer - and I've been happy with it. As Neil says, upgrade the headphones:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855125128

I'll chime in, though, that listening to music while biking on road may not be the safest thing - I've been a runner for 20+ years and I won't listen to music when I'm running anywhere near cars.

rchippie 02.09.2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 417731)
I use one of these Sansa Clip 4gb players - reasonable price, very small, built in clip on back, drop and drag files from your computer - and I've been happy with it. As Neil says, upgrade the headphones:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855125128

I'll chime in, though, that listening to music while biking on road may not be the safest thing - I've been a runner for 20+ years and I won't listen to music when I'm running anywhere near cars.

I agree, but i usually ride a 4 am & usually alone, so it's kind of boring :lol:. I would most likely ride with only one headphone in (right side). So my left ear closet to the cars would be free.

BrianG 02.10.2012 12:25 AM

I personally think this would work well for you given your requirements.

Seriously though, something like this is what I was thinking about. Simple, cheap, decent reviews, plenty of storage, compact, etc.

And about biking with a radio: I use a normal headset, but also have those little mirrors on the handlebars to see behind me...

_paralyzed_ 02.10.2012 02:20 AM

don't you carry a phone? any phone these days will do what you want.

brian015 02.10.2012 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 417737)
I agree, but i usually ride a 4 am & usually alone, so it's kind of boring :lol:. I would most likely ride with only one headphone in (right side). So my left ear closet to the cars would be free.

That's a good idea. :yes:

rchippie 02.10.2012 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 417731)
I use one of these Sansa Clip 4gb players - reasonable price, very small, built in clip on back, drop and drag files from your computer - and I've been happy with it. As Neil says, upgrade the headphones:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16855125128

I'll chime in, though, that listening to music while biking on road may not be the safest thing - I've been a runner for 20+ years and I won't listen to music when I'm running anywhere near cars.


How easy it this one to program with music ?.

brian015 02.10.2012 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 417778)
How easy it this one to program with music ?.

Very easy - hook it up to your computer with a usb cable and it looks like a memory card - just drag and drop your music files into it and its ready to play.

rchippie 02.10.2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by brian015 (Post 417779)
Very easy - hook it up to your computer with a usb cable and it looks like a memory card - just drag and drop your music files into it and its ready to play.


Can i do that on i tunes ? .

BrianG 02.10.2012 10:15 PM

Probably not since IIRC only apple products work with iTunes. But iTunes is bloatware anyway; easier to just drag-n-drop files as needed.

rchippie 02.11.2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417786)
Probably not since IIRC only apple products work with iTunes. But iTunes is bloatware anyway; easier to just drag-n-drop files as needed.



If cant use i tunes with this one, were could i get songs from, besides loadind my cd's to my computer ?.

magman 02.11.2012 11:00 AM

If this helps and it can be done with a computer then downloaded to an mp3....I use GTunes for my music on my droid. It's free and has a lot of music choices, not as many as I tunes, quite a bit none the less.

I must have 300+ songs on my phone...all free! I listen a lot at work when welding as the sound of the welder crackling gets to me after awhile

BrianG 02.11.2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 417794)
If cant use i tunes with this one, were could i get songs from, besides loadind my cd's to my computer ?.

I assumed you already had song files on your computer. I've ripped and converted all my CDs so I have around 3000 songs on my PC. All those CDs were heavy and took up a lot of room. :smile:

rawfuls 02.11.2012 01:41 PM

If you have songs on your iTunes, you have song files already on your computer.

It's most likely found in My Music, then a folder named iTunes, then iTunes Media, Music, or something like that.

suicideneil 02.11.2012 02:58 PM

iTunes is the work of the devil, but there are some programs out there that will work with music that has been 'diddled' by the iTunes software, allowing you to play it on a non-Crapple device. Personally speaking, I just use windows media player library for organizing my music, for the most part it's easy to work with & doesn't do anything funny regards DRM that might otherwise prevent you playing music on a separate device. Just drag & drop files onto the connected device, and away you go :yes:

josh9mille 02.11.2012 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 417741)
don't you carry a phone? any phone these days will do what you want.

I like this idea. I dont think there is a phone out now that wont play MP3s, and they usually have a headphone jack

rchippie 02.11.2012 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417798)
I assumed you already had song files on your computer. I've ripped and converted all my CDs so I have around 3000 songs on my PC. All those CDs were heavy and took up a lot of room. :smile:

How hard is it to copy tour cd's to your pc ?. I have never done that before.

I just figured it out. I just put a def leporad cd in and ripped a song to my pc.

BrianG 02.11.2012 09:10 PM

It's really easy. Install the software of your choice, pop in a cd, and tell the software to rip and convert.

There are tons of software titles you can use to do this, but I personally use Exact Audio Copy. It's free, accurate, automatically gets ID tag data, and can generate MP3s directly.

If you use that software, you might want to change a few settings like converted file format (MP3, WMA, etc), quality (I personally use 320 bit rate for highest quality at the expense of filesize, but even then, each song is typically 2MB/minute max) ,converted file location, etc.

Once you insert the disc, wait a few seconds for the file list to show up. Then, click the little "freedb" icon to automatically retrieve song, artist, etc data from the online database, then click the applicable button on the left side of the window (the "CMP" option most likely).

rchippie 02.12.2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417843)
It's really easy. Install the software of your choice, pop in a cd, and tell the software to rip and convert.

There are tons of software titles you can use to do this, but I personally use Exact Audio Copy. It's free, accurate, automatically gets ID tag data, and can generate MP3s directly.

If you use that software, you might want to change a few settings like converted file format (MP3, WMA, etc), quality (I personally use 320 bit rate for highest quality at the expense of filesize, but even then, each song is typically 2MB/minute max) ,converted file location, etc.

Once you insert the disc, wait a few seconds for the file list to show up. Then, click the little "freedb" icon to automatically retrieve song, artist, etc data from the online database, then click the applicable button on the left side of the window (the "CMP" option most likely).

I went to best buy & bought a scan disc 4g mp3 player. I tried to load a song but can not figure it out. so i am taking it back tomorrow, & may just get a small radio , i'm not sure yet. My landlord said he might change my phone plan & get me a smart phone when he gets back from a 3 week vacation to Australia. I'm sure im probably not doing something right with the mp3 player. But i think i will just go get my money back. Until someone can come over & acttually so me how to do this.:lol:

BrianG 02.12.2012 12:36 PM

That's odd. So, when you hook it up to your computer, the player doesn't show up as an "external drive" (with its own drive letter) in "My Computer"? I'd be more than happy to come over to give you a hand, but Florida is a long drive to set up a $40 item. :smile:

rawfuls 02.12.2012 12:38 PM

Perhaps this will help?
http://kb.sandisk.com/app/answers/de...-windows-media

I assume "scan disc" is sandisk..

traxxasbasher13 02.12.2012 09:15 PM

If your going to use iTunes you can pick up a used iPod Touch on CL for about $60-$70 or a Nano for less.

rchippie 02.12.2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by traxxasbasher13 (Post 417901)
If your going to use iTunes you can pick up a used iPod Touch on CL for about $60-$70 or a Nano for less.


My landlord ( who pays for my cell phone ) said when he gets back from vacation we can look at maybe getting a smart phone. So for know im thinking i may try & find a used walkman with bass boost & just use that. so in anyone has a used walkman ( must be a small one ). Please let me know. Thank's

traxxasbasher13 02.12.2012 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rchippie (Post 417904)
My landlord ( who pays for my cell phone ) said when he gets back from vacation we can look at maybe getting a smart phone. So for know im thinking i may try & find a used walkman with bass boost & just use that. so in anyone has a used walkman ( must be a small one ). Please let me know. Thank's

Oh, that is even better than an iPod. What cell carrier you on? If your on Verizon check out the Rezound, I have one and I love it. Great phone and it comes with a decent pair of headphones.

rchippie 02.12.2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by traxxasbasher13 (Post 417906)
Oh, that is even better than an iPod. What cell carrier you on? If your on Verizon check out the Rezound, I have one and I love it. Great phone and it comes with a decent pair of headphones.

We are on verizon.

BrianG 02.12.2012 10:14 PM

To be honest, I think you are really overthinking this. Using a phone as a player does work well, but I personally prefer something a little less fragile when biking; after all, it might fall out of your pocket or whatever and smash into the ground. Also, battery life on a smart phone isn't the best.

I still think a simple one like the image below would suit you fine, and is cheap enough not to be a "big deal" if it gets dropped/ruined. And this one even has an FM tuner.

http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US...1653136_sb.jpg

I have one very similar to this and it simply appears as an external drive in Windows when connected, so drag-n-drop works fine. Simple to use, fits easily into a pocket, and just works.

As far as sound quality, it's more in the headphones than anything. As long as the internal amp is even halfway decent and you don't turn the volume up into clipping, you won't be able to tell the difference between that and a $100,000 player when listening to MP3's on earbuds. Plus, you say that you plan to use only one earpiece when riding, which makes the SQ argument even more moot.

So, just pick a player already! :smile: Rip some songs off your fav CDs, copy them to whatever device, and that's it.

rchippie 02.12.2012 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417908)
To be honest, I think you are really overthinking this. Using a phone as a player does work well, but I personally prefer something a little less fragile when biking; after all, it might fall out of your pocket or whatever and smash into the ground. Also, battery life on a smart phone isn't the best.

I still think a simple one like the image below would suit you fine, and is cheap enough not to be a "big deal" if it gets dropped/ruined. And this one even has an FM tuner.

http://images.bestbuy.com/BestBuy_US...1653136_sb.jpg

I have one very similar to this and it simply appears as an external drive in Windows when connected, so drag-n-drop works fine. Simple to use, fits easily into a pocket, and just works.

As far as sound quality, it's more in the headphones than anything. As long as the internal amp is even halfway decent and you don't turn the volume up into clipping, you won't be able to tell the difference between that and a $100,000 player when listening to MP3's on earbuds. Plus, you say that you plan to use only one earpiece when riding, which makes the SQ argument even more moot.

So, just pick a player already! :smile: Rip some songs off your fav CDs, copy them to whatever device, and that's it.

I tried copying songs from my pc to the scan disc i bought the other day. But it was taking to long to just coping one song. I cant imagine how long it would take to load 40 or 50 songs.

BrianG 02.12.2012 10:29 PM

Well, that might be your computer. Not sure what you're running for OS (WinXP SP2 you sometimes need to force device manager to detect USB2), but if you are hooking it to a USB1 port, the port will limit the speed no matter what the device supports. But even at USB2 speeds, transferring 1GB or more does take a while.

Also, are you sure you were transferring a compressed sound file? If you just pulled the song off a CD, it might be in WAV format, which will be around 10MB/minute (as opposed to around 1-2MB/Minute for MP3), and so will take a very long time.

rchippie 02.12.2012 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417910)
Well, that might be your computer. Not sure what you're running for OS (WinXP SP2 you sometimes need to force device manager to detect USB2), but if you are hooking it to a USB1 port, the port will limit the speed no matter what the device supports. But even at USB2 speeds, transferring 1GB or more does take a while.

Also, are you sure you were transferring a compressed sound file? If you just pulled the song off a CD, it might be in WAV format, which will be around 10MB/minute (as opposed to around 1-2MB/Minute for MP3), and so will take a very long time.

As far as i know i was just transferring the song from my pc, not sure if it was commpressed or not. I just ripped it to my pc Then tried to load it on the scan disc. If i could get someone to show me the right way it would probably be faster. I was just loading one song & it was taking over 3 -5 minutes.

BrianG 02.12.2012 10:35 PM

OK everyone, who here lives near Largo Florida? Could you stop over and sort RCHippie out? :lol:

rchippie 02.12.2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417912)
OK everyone, who here lives near Largo Florida? Could you stop over and sort RCHippie out? :lol:

:lol:

_paralyzed_ 02.13.2012 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417912)
OK everyone, who here lives near Largo Florida? Could you stop over and sort RCHippie out? :lol:

The player fits in an envelope, someone want to dump their library for hippie?

If I had any music in a digital format I'd say send it here and I'd load it.

All I have for music is a handful of scratched cd's:neutral:

BrianG 02.13.2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by _paralyzed_ (Post 417921)
The player fits in an envelope, someone want to dump their library for hippie?

If I had any music in a digital format I'd say send it here and I'd load it.

All I have for music is a handful of scratched cd's:neutral:

That wouldn't really help him out. It would give him music for sure, but he still wouldn't know how to work things. "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime".

_paralyzed_ 02.13.2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BrianG (Post 417935)
That wouldn't really help him out. It would give him music for sure, but he still wouldn't know how to work things. "Give a man a fish, he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish, he eats for a lifetime".

Good point Brian. :yes:


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