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Nick 06.09.2006 07:28 PM

Supermaxx Lightning here
 
Firstly, this took over 2 weeks to get to me and by was it worth the wait! The quality, the look! Everything is just unreal! I love it and I won't let anyone near it. :D

On it's own:
http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/uploads/...7_46_43264.jpg

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/uploads/...7_46_23587.jpg

The whole truck:
http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/uploads/..._46_126716.jpg

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/uploads/...7_46_64675.jpg

http://www.msuk-forum.co.uk/uploads/..._46_143470.jpg


So far the quality is ALOT better than the Gorilla, the design just tops it up. I'll be able to run it next week to compare the performance.

It has so many areas I like about it and eliminates all the Gorilla flaws. If the performance is good, I'll never look back! :D

Alot longer too, I can see some real good performance out of this. Titanium centre shafts are incredible to. Amazing. Love love love love love! :D

squeeforever 06.09.2006 07:39 PM

Looks great!

Why doy ou say the quality is alot better? And what flaws are you talking about in the Gorilla?

cabking 06.09.2006 07:43 PM

very VERY nice!!!! :004: cant say alot more really, 'cause the green eyed monster has taken me over........................

Sylvester 06.09.2006 07:58 PM

Very nice! I think nick likes the higher chassis.

Nick 06.09.2006 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
Why doy ou say the quality is alot better? And what flaws are you talking about in the Gorilla?

Quality, better material, Gorilla is only 6061, this is 7075. Alot stronger. Also quality in the engineering behind it, the curved braces near the servo and the detail in the cell pits are beutiful. Small things like the tranny mounts. Positioning of the screw holes and the fine feel of the threads in each one.

The flaws which I found in the Gorilla was the flimsy top plate holding the servo. A powerful servo could easily flex it, taking power from the stearing. I heard Mike and some others double up the top plate to stop it. I didn't like how the whole bottom plate was like one giant skid either - but I guess that is a design for racers, where as I bash mine. ;)

You REALLY need to have one and experience it, what I type here won't show the great feeling of the build quality on it, I just can't explain it.

Thanks for comments!

squeeforever 06.09.2006 09:07 PM

Yes, you are absolutely correct. The main reason that Gorilla doesn't use the 7075 is probably because of the added weight, price, ect. I do like the looks of the Lightning but the light CG chassis isn't really my cup of tea though.

Nick 06.09.2006 09:19 PM

I'm sure 7075 is actually lighter and about double the strength of 6061. ;)

squeeforever 06.09.2006 09:27 PM

I didn't know it was lighter but added strength is obvious. But with the strength, ect. comes a added price...

HotnCold 06.10.2006 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nick
I'm sure 7075 is actually lighter and about double the strength of 6061. ;)

And dont forget about the added $$$ - Way more expensive than 6061 - Most metal places near me dont even stock 7075 - too expensive to keep in stock - but it sure is strong though...

Serum 06.10.2006 10:47 AM

7075 is heavier than 6061.

Nice ride!

Gustav 06.10.2006 11:15 AM

Yeah it's more dense and harder,a 7075 part could be similar weight and strength but be smaller and harder but likewise a 6061 part could be similarly strong at the same weight but be physically larger in volume.so for the same part/same volume of material,the 7075 part would be stronger but heavier.something like that:005: .

I like the g-maxx design myself,looks like a very efficient use of material so it's as light (or lighter?) than stock yet very strong and has the lower CG.the intricate machining on the UE looks very nice though.

cabking 06.10.2006 07:56 PM

I always liked the higher C of G on the Maxx, just for the look of it.
I had to settle for the poor Man's version though :010:

jhautz 06.11.2006 02:54 PM

Where did you get it from. The UE site has been ot of stock on the deck for months now. I would love to get one as well. I think its a better design for bashing than the Gmaxx. The gmaxx is great for racing, but the UE is better for the rough stuff. I'd love track one of these down. Ive also been whatching ebay, but nothing ever seems to pop up.

Any leads as the where I can track one down?

Nick 06.11.2006 02:58 PM

One one eBay! 7 hours left:
http://cgi.ebay.com/UE-Thunder-Chass...ayphotohosting

I got mine from USA second hand but came to me as new. It is amazing how so much use can do so little wear and tear.

jhautz 06.11.2006 03:03 PM

Wow thats gonna go for more money than a new one at UE. I wonder if I just pay UE now and have them just ship it when they get some. (could be months). But it really would annoy me to pay more than a new price for a used item.

Sneeck 06.11.2006 04:22 PM

Chances ue gonna make them again are very very small.

squeeforever 06.11.2006 11:21 PM

Yup, I was under the impression there gonna stop making em.

captain harlock 06.11.2006 11:48 PM

For what reason?

MetalMan 06.12.2006 12:12 AM

Supply and demand :032:.

mmdooley 06.12.2006 12:22 AM

Hey, what about the FLM chassis it is 6160 but it is very strong. Strong enough that FLM guarantees it against bending and breaking no matter what you put it through for life. I hit a curb last week and bent a lower a-arm, hybrid case and the front skid plate. It cost me $17 to replace them. I fear no wreak LOL.

Sneeck 06.12.2006 02:04 AM

FLM is clearly not even close as the same quality as UE.

But that aside, it is the best option since these kind of emaxx chassis's are getting rare. I would deffinatly get a lightning over anything else if I where a basher. They look so darn sexy.

captain harlock 06.12.2006 01:36 PM

Any chance that Mike has of them?

captain harlock 06.12.2006 01:37 PM

I mean SOME of them?

Sylvester 06.12.2006 08:13 PM

Very SLIM, even if he does, i dont think they are going for some pretty penny, captain!

squeeforever 06.12.2006 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock
For what reason?

Well for one thing, there was a thread a while back saying that they stopped making them.....

mmdooley 06.12.2006 11:04 PM

If the quality of the flm is so bad then why are they still making them and not the ue?

squeeforever 06.12.2006 11:28 PM

Come on guys....Sneeck has a point, the UE is of a higher quality, but the price is rediculously high. MMDooley also has a point, with FLM's warrantly, you can't go wrong...Lets compare apples and apples, The FLM suspension is superb for the price as is the quality, and for the price, you can't beat it. The UE Widetrac suspension is top notch, but the price isn't to hot. The quality however is great. Chassis wise, its the same thing. Why buy a chassis that cost over 3 times what a very similar one does when you could buy the cheaper one, and bend it and replace it with FLM's warranty more than 20 times over and still be less than the more expensive chassis??

Sneeck 06.13.2006 12:54 AM

That's true. Also let's not forget about spare part's for the lightning. Even if you do get your hand's on a full chassis, if you bend it or damage it in any way, good luck on finding spare part's. But good luck in damaging such a chassis too.

There was one on ebay a few day's ago and it went for a little over 200$.

You can choose whatever you want, i'm sticking with my custom flamemaxx chassis's.

captain harlock 06.13.2006 02:39 AM

Hmmmm...I guess the G-Maxx chassis is the best thing money can buy for the time being, though I have the FLM chassis and I'm not really that fond of it.

Nick 06.13.2006 03:51 AM

Robin has said that the reason he stopped production on the Lightning was because he wanted to place the majority of his funds into the Razorback. The Lightning didn't sell enough to be worthwhile, like people have said, alot of Maxx users don't need a super good chassis that costs 4x more than others on the market.

captain harlock 06.13.2006 07:24 AM

Still, I would've got one if it was still on production.

mmdooley 06.13.2006 01:51 PM

I agree with Squee. And U.E. does make high quality parts and so does FLM. I guess it comes down to $$$$ and preference.

dda01015 06.19.2006 01:07 AM

If you get the cradles ($75) you can mount them with stock shock threads under the chassis and have the best of both worlds. Run four packs if you want. If I can figure out how, I'll post a picture of mine.

Nick 06.19.2006 03:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dda01015
If you get the cradles ($75) you can mount them with stock shock threads under the chassis and have the best of both worlds. Run four packs if you want. If I can figure out how, I'll post a picture of mine.

4 packs! :eek:

jocktheglide 07.05.2006 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dda01015
If you get the cradles ($75) you can mount them with stock shock threads under the chassis and have the best of both worlds. Run four packs if you want. If I can figure out how, I'll post a picture of mine.

its too heavy on the load of motor man for any motor.....I have 32 batteries on mine before yes 16 on top and 16 on bottom its too heavy the performance is not great.

Procharged5.0 07.05.2006 01:16 PM

Captain,

What version of the FLM chassis do you have? V2? V3?

I upgraded my V2 for a V3 a couple of months back. The V3 has the battery slots like the Lightning. The V2 was a royal pain to secure the batteries to. FLM still recommends using G-Maxx battery straps with either version.

The quality of the latest FLM V3 Emaxx chassis is good with the following notes:

1) No antenna mount provision
2) Batter hold downs still "iffy", must use G-Maxx straps
3) No anodizing like UE lightning so make sure to protect the chassis from the batteries to prevent shorts!
4) No perfect matches on the skid plates although you can tweak most to fit.5) No on/off switch mounting provision for esc.

These are some of the reasons why the FLM is cheaper. Also, lower cost materials (6061 vs 7075), lno anodizing/bare aluminum, less "engineering" involved especially in terms of details.

BUT, GREAT WARRANTY and LOW PRICE. For me it was a good trade off especiall since I couldn't find a lightning and I'm not ready to do a G-Maxx/Stadium truck conversion.

Mike.L 07.07.2006 10:32 AM

Yet a-nother Very nice truck.

captain harlock 07.08.2006 12:24 AM

I think its V3. It has full battery slots. However, I'll get the G-Maxx chassis in the future with God's willing. The FLM chassis is really not quite a good chassis, but it's quite affordable and tough enough for being rough.

Procharged5.0 07.08.2006 10:48 AM

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This is the V2. The V3 has horizontal battery slots like the UE Supermaxx Lightening or the Gorillamaxx Chassis.

Procharged5.0 07.08.2006 10:49 AM

I had the V2 and could never get the batteries to stay put and when I did they became suge a huge pain to take out I just charged them in the truck!


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