If you got to do your bl all over again
 

Before I get to deep into my conversion I would like to know what you would do differently if you did it again. I know sometimes, that extra 20 bucks made the decision easier at first but in the long run it cost more like 120. The origanl part (that ended up being junk)for 50. That's the first 50 and then the good part(that you had to buy anyways) for 70=120 total in the end:007: . Total wast of 50 dollars that could have gone to a stripper:004: instead. Either way it's giving your money away with nothing to show for it except fustration:mad: . At least a long shower will eventually take care of one of thoses situations:013:

It's much easier if you just say what you want to do as a conversion. Seems to me that you are looking for a bombproof truck.

Like your signature says.

One thing i would not have done; buy a schulze esc or batteries from BK.

With a BL setup you simple USE stuff, no way around it. you need to replace parts every now and then. just the normal wear and the abuse

I think if I had to do over. I wouldn't have wasted my money on 2 hv maxx setups.
I would also have bought better quality motors like lehners 19 series.

Currently I have an E-maxx with aliminum bulkheads, ss suspension pins, RPM arms and skid plates,MIP cvds in the rear. IAlso have a spooler in the rear. I mostly run 7 cell 3300 nimh packs but also have 6 cell packsMost of these have been replacement parts from the first few months of getting my truck. I have a BK9920 controller and have been looking at getting a Feigao 8xl.I know that I will have to get steel idlers and a different clutch. The RR seams cheaper at first cause with the strobe you have to buy new pinions witch are not to cheap for the 5mm mod 1 espeacially if you haare trying to figure out the correct size to run. If the RR clutch will not hold up to the BL then it would have been a waste of money in the long run. I'm usaually not this cheap but I have not worked in 10 months from my stroke. Now I have to be on a pretty tight budget with my toys. The feigao's are cheaper but do they last. I'm not looking to race I just want to do some bashing knowing that some parts will break or wear out. As you can see from my setup I'm not afraid to drive/crash my truck. I've read that a lot of people end up with the quark 125b after trying out a different esc first. I just didn't want to make that same mistake. My 9920 was a gift, that's why I'm starting out with that one.

The feigao or wanderers are good motors.
They last pretty good. I like the 9xl in them.
The 8xl should be nice in your case. The 9920 should be ok as well.
I ran the rr slipper for a while before I found the strobe.
I find that a better spring like off a mgt works better with any slipper than the maxx one. If you don't have a ubec you may check on one.

Sorry to hear about health.

I ran the RR setup for several years on my bl setup, before I just I finally switched to the strobe last week..... One thing you need to do is really crank it down, and you can use the strobe sprong with a RR also.... The Bl setup I run is the following...

1920/8 lehner
2095 micro controller
I run 12 cells in series, but he most I've ran is 16 cells and it ran and held up just fine..

Thanks everyone. It looks like I'm on the right track with my setup. CHC , I am planning on an UBEC. For 40 bucks it is worth not burning up a esc. Is the main reason for an UBEC to help keep the esc from getting to hot? My dad is running the 9920 with a 8 xl no ubec, just using the internal from BK. Motor will get up to 140-145 and the esc get 135 after 10-12 mins with 14 cells. He has only run it 3 or 4 times so far. He started off with 28/64 before he melted the stock slipper we've tried 28/66 (screaming fast)with the same heat and speeds. After reading through some of the old forums I bought him a 20t pinion The temps definatly went down at least 10 deg on the motor and esc but I can't remember the exact numbers. The run time was almost twice as long but the speed was cut in about half, with 12 cells, and new gearing Still faster than my twin 550's. I'm also planning on going to Deans connectors

I had a problem with shut down with out the ubec.
The internal bec would shut down and the esc was not that warm.
I think they recommend only 12 cells for it to operate on.

I have no regrets on how i started out. The Novak is very easy to start with and dependable for beating till you get used to the power. I now have a ss5800 in my t4 and just got a mamba max 5700 for my t3 and from the looks of it, i won't be straying from mamba soon

One thing i would not have done; buy a schulze esc or batteries from BK.
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Serum,

Can you explain why you would not buy a Schulze? I'm looking at the 18.97KWF for Maxx's, the BK 9920 (an RC-Monster Favorite!), and the Quark 125b. I've heard of several people having trouble with the Quark and while the 9920 is reliable the Schulze has more features and perhaps smoother operation. Trouble is, it's hard to get a real consensus on what works best in the ESC department.

All the problems with Quarks were, a bad ESC (replaced for free), a bad motor, etc. The Schulze however, not so great. They are smooth, I'll give em that much, but there not reliable. Leroy is the only person I know what hasn't burned it up....And thats unusual for him :confused:. Anywho, Schulze has no customer service to speak of as well...Just look at Serums Hall of Shame...

It almost seems like there are no truely troublefree brushless esc's out there. :confused:

I want (but maybe can't have) a brushless esc that performs just like the Novak/Traxxas EVX (or any modern Novak ESC for that matter). I want reverse and good brakes to compliment the blinding acceleration and I want reliability. I'm using a pair of 6-cell GP3300's that I might upgrade to 7 or 8 cell packs and I would like to use the Feigao 8xl or 9xl (or the XLT-4).

Really not sure which way to go. I thought the Quark Monster 125b was sthe answer but I'm hearing some not so great things about it.

Basically............is there a brushless esc that performs similarly to the stock EVX but for a brushless application? :032:

BTW.........

How do I find SERUM's hall of shame???

He used to have a link in his profile, but the sites down right now I believe...Anywho, run a search for wall of shame or hall of shame. It's actually Wall of Shame :007: here is a thread were he posted all the pictures.

WOW! That 18.97 really cooked! Does Mike stand behind the Quark if there is a failure?

How are the MG esc's he sells?

I did not think it would be so hard to pick! Maybe I should go back to brushed?

I would of bought decent 8mm UE CVDs and 8 spyder diffs. Instead of RDLogics and Maximizer, that I've broke. :(

Thanks for letting us know what crap not to buy. This is the best bl forum on the net. I'm happy that we have squee here. Without him we would all have to learn by our own trials and errors. Squee and BrianG are the best ever. I wouln't know how to do those cool links without them. the link is just some pretty cool body clips that I bought from ebay.

:o Well geez...Thanks man...I wouldn't know ANYTHING if it wasn't for Mike, Serum, Dafni, Leroy, Joe, and several others...I'm just glad I found this place...

Funny. We pass on knowledge, as the "generations" on the forum here change slowly. Keep it up, boys!

I think the mamba monster max will be the esc we been waiting for. I have been beating on a mamba max for two weeks and it never stumbled or skipped a beat, i personally think the time put in it will be worth it if it runs like the mamba max.

As for an esc that runs like the evx, i still think the Noavk hv-maxx is a great choice, even though its a little under-powered, it still will run with any nitro, and just as tough as the evx. I have overheated mine on four separate occasions, and thermaled on one of them and it still runs excellent

i wouldve let someone else solder/setup my BL system, as ive now got problems, there in this thread: http://www.rc-monster.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3665
i think that if i got a rusty i will put the 380c in the rusty, and run brushed in the T4. the T4 aint tough enough.

I think with all said as giving credit from go4gold, he missed leroy in all that. Kudos to all as well from me, i have definately learned a lot!
As for an esc, myself, still looking for the perfect one. But am hearing many good things about the mamba! IMO, i stay away from Novak...it's not hard to beat Nitro with BL power, I want an esc that won't thermal....but is smooth....

I will say that the Quark is my favorite controller so far. It has many features, including a built in LVC for the Lipos. This controller is also smooth as butter, and works with 4 pole motors(unlike BK). The Quark monster pro is a step above Shulze for smoothness as well(Shulze is similar in smoothness to the BKs in my experiance - perhaps slightly better, while the Quark is superior to both). Another benefit to the Quark so far has been their prompt, attentive service. I have seen 2 failures, which were replaced with no questions asked(within days - not weeks or months).
The only disadvantages to the Quark in my opinion are the lack of reverse braking(engages forward immediately if running in reverse and changing directions) - this doesn't bother me a whole lot, as I prefer to drive forward anyways and only use revers occasionally to back out of trouble. The Quark could also use a larger heatsink built into the case.

I did some pretty serious testing yesterday at the track with the Quark. I did take some preventative measures regarding heat - I milled my own custom rear g-maxx upper extension plate that incorporates a 3/8" heatsink built into the bottom of it, with a 40mm fan blowing across the controller and heatsink.
I ran a total of nearly 2 hours - almost non stop in the 90 degree NY sun, without a thermal - I actually was trying to thermal it near the end of the day, but was unsuccessful! A simple heatsink and fan makes a huge impact, as many already know. My setup was a Neu 15151.5y motor(4 pole, 2200Kv) mated to my -soon to available- "slipperential" setup on the extended g-maxx truck. Testing was done with the body on, on a race track. The truck is a little over 10 pounds RTR and was geared for low-mid 30s(plenty fast - almost too fast for the track). The motor and controller never exceeded 145F through it all. The Maxamps 8000mah 2s packs(2 wired in series) provided excellent punch and about 25 minutes of race runtime. I also ran some A123 Lion packs for testing in between the 8k mah 4s packs. These will likely be a product available soon from RC-Monster, along with the Neu motors(these motors are top notch - after nearly 2 hours, my motor never exceeded 145F on a hot day - a testament to their efficiency).
Joe (Batfish)was with me and assisted in the testing, along with piloting my race rig for 30 or so minutes.

In conclusion, the mamba monster Maxx controller should be an excellent product, as all CC stuff is top notch, but the Quark deserves some serious reognition for their outstanding product and customer service. I would not hesitate to recommend the monster Pro controller from Quark. With proper cooling measures and setup, it is AWESOME. Best of all, the Quark is already available. :)

I found if you change the brake delay it seems to effects the reverse to forward. I not sure why.

Thanks, but in many way I'm just a noob. :) I remember starting out here around Nov of 2005 totally clueless about BL. Just about (if not all) everyone here is willing to help and explain pretty much anything.

Mike: The Quarks are definitely top-notch, but you have to admit it's pretty hard to beat the Mamba Max for the price! Not to mention the infinitely programmable torque and brake curve. Nevertheless, I am not sorry I got the Quark at all.

BrianG I was just reading through some old post that you started back in Oct time frame. You definitely sounded like a noob back then but your geekdom prevailed and now you're one of the experienced guys around here. It shows a few months, some cash and a good working brain goes a long way.
newEuser (I got it right the firt time unlike Squee) It was mostly sarcasm cause Squee has been cleaning up after me and between both Brian and Squee they showed me how to make a custom link. I didn't forget Leroy, Serum( don't know or can't remember Serum's real name) Dafni( for the first few days of reading I thought you were a female Sorry, it's the name) Mike, and Joe. Everybody on the forum has been great and very helpful. I've been teasing Squee and Brian for a few days(Lucky me they have a sense of humor as I didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings)

Edit: I guess that I will have to name everyone individualy so I don't hurt anyones feeling. So here goes, A couple more studs MetalMan( quit watching me). and hotnCold(nice avatar). I could go on and on but I'm at the bottom of my window with no more space to type.

Serums real name is Rene and Dafni's real name is Daniel.

Thanks, I remember Rene's name now. Like I said your the best Squee. Now that we're on a first name bases my name is Brian. no G as I'm not geeky yet.lol

I forgot to mention that when the esc (novak HV) overheated/thermaled, it was when the fan bent or broke

I'd maybe have bought a better esc and motor. 1950/Quark 125. (Bought a 9920/9XL). Gonna buy those other two soon though.

You are not the only one going bigger and better! LOL, 1950 would be great, already have the Quark though. I may go with the 1940 if i can ever talk my girl into it. I don't think she'll go for it though!

Neweuser, The trick is to give her the price of the most expensive part and tell her that is what you want then a couple weeks later tell her you will settle for the less expensive part(which is really the part you want).She thinks you're making a sacrifice when you're really getting what you want. Works every time.It just takes a little longer.

Unfortunately, she has a truck too and goes online to RC Monster and looks too!!!!! :) thanks though!

Does that mean she is a registered forum member as well?
I think he told on you now. :D

I 'm sorry if iI let the cat out of the bag.You found the 1 cool chick out there. Good job on that now it's time to upgrade her truck with your old parts win- win situation can't beat that.