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T2693 03.28.2005 11:17 PM

BL system setup, what's all needed
 
Hello,

Waiting on the G2 CF chassis to come in to begin my project.

What's needed/recommanded to setup a BL system?

I'm running 2, 6 cell GP3300 packs should I go to 7 cell GP3300's or GP3700's? Which set, 3300's or 3700's would work best on the Feigao brushless 540 8L or 9L motors? Do I need two motors or one to convert?

Is the Warrior 9918 Brushless Car Controller the way to go to match up with the Feigao motor?

Do I need a UBEC?

Do I need to upgrade my CVD's prior to coverting to BL? If so recommandation please.

Any other items I may want to upgrade prior to converting to BL?

On a scale of 1-10 how hard is it to setup a BL system? I have basic wiring skills.

Do I need the G2 Motor Mount to go BL or convert stock to G2 CF chassis?

Hope to get some positive info to make some purchases.

Thanks

HotnCold 03.29.2005 07:08 AM

Needed..
 
First off welcome to the site. To set up your BL system you need a motor and speed controller. If your going to be running 6 cell packs then the warrior 9918 and 8L will be a good choice for you to run, if you are going to run 7 cell packs only then once again the warrior and a 9L would do ya just fine. Your 3300's or 3700's will both work equally well - the 37's will give ya a little more runtime due to the extra mah. A ubec would be a good idea but it is not absolutely necessary. The ubec ( in case you dont know ) eliminates the receiver battery for your servos. This helps when you wanna run and forgot to charge your receiver pack and have to wait for it to charge ( who likes waiting lol ). CVD's are a necessary upgrade for the most part but with some control on your part ( easy trigger finger ) I would say that you could enjoy the maxx for a little while till the stockers give way. As far as the wiring skills i would say that it is really quite easy - just 3 wires from the motor and 3 from the controller. If your soldering skills are ok - then you'll be o.k. Hope this helps ya - once you drive a BL maxx compared to the stocker - you'll be just like all of us here - AdDiCtEd to It... :)

T2693 03.29.2005 01:34 PM

Thanks HotnCold!

Couple more questions

What type of pinions and spurs will I need for the 8 or 9L?

What are the benefits from a 9L to an 8L visa virsa? Speed, run times, etc? One motor will do correct?

Quote:

The ubec ( in case you dont know ) eliminates the receiver battery for your servos. This helps when you wanna run and forgot to charge your receiver pack and have to wait for it to charge
I don't think I have a receiver battery for my servos or do I? I'm stock except for bumpers, bulkhead braces and skidplates, all RPM.

If I go with the G2 CF chassis do I need the G2 motor mount to mount the motor/s?

Thanks again!

MaxxFusion 03.29.2005 02:13 PM

Right now your BEC is in your EVX so you dont need a receiver pack. I would say go with a BEC. I dont like the idea of having to worry about a extra pack.

The main difference between the 8L and 9L is the number of cells that you will be running. You may get a slightly longer runtime with the 8L on 12 cells and slighty more power with the 9L on 14 cells. If all of your current packs are 6 cells and you plan on staying with them get the 8L. I went with the 9L because before I was brushless all my packs were 7 cells.

You dont need to have the G2 motor mount but its recomenned.

HotnCold 03.29.2005 02:30 PM

yea - what he said - =)

MaxxFusion 03.29.2005 02:38 PM

Here are some links to other parts you will need to upgrade at some point after you go brushless.

SuperMaxx E-Maxx Hardened Steel Idler Kit

This is the center CVDs needed for the extended GMAxx chassis:
SuperMaxx Titanium Center Driveshaft Kit, EXT Electric Chassis

Maximizer 7075 Aluminum Diff Cups


Integy Aluminum Diff Case

Integy Gear Box Collar

Maxx 2.5 Cvds by RD Logics

RC-Monster Mike 03.29.2005 08:14 PM

The 9L runs well on 12 or 14 cells. It will have a slightly longer runtime than the 8L, given the same cell count. The 8L will be a touch faster. The controller has a BEC, and if you are only running 12 cells, the UBEC isn't necessary (nor is a receiver pack). The UBEc will supply a slightly higher voltage to the servos, however (slightly more speed and power to the servos).
The motor mount is not necessary, but it is a nice option and makes for a cleaner mount in my opinion. One motor and controller is more than enough power (*either motor).

T2693 03.30.2005 02:23 AM

Thanks everyone!

Looking forward to building a killer machine.

Very helpful info to know and have available!

I'll be converting to a BL system in the near future. I'm currently going to convert chassis and suspensions first then move on to BL.

Just trying to map out my options for future investments. The parts mentioned above, are they the way to go?

You guys ROCK!

RC-Monster Mike 03.30.2005 07:27 AM

The parts mentioned above are all worthy of your machine. I would get the chassis extension as well (vs. standard length).

T2693 03.31.2005 02:28 AM

This is what your speaking of correct?

Gorilla Maxx G2 chassis extension kit for traxxas emaxx

Do I need additional parts to add this once I get my CF chassis or just the parts mentioned above?

RC-Monster Mike 03.31.2005 06:52 AM

Just the parts mentioned above. A longer rear center driveshaft is the only change (which is mentioned above).

T2693 03.31.2005 04:57 PM

Thanks everyone!

Hope to get some parts ordered soon!

I also hope to see some of you guys at the races :cool:

RC-Monster Mike 03.31.2005 05:57 PM

HotnCold and I will be at the Barn Friday night with E-MAXXES. Hopefully we will see you there.

T2693 04.01.2005 11:15 PM

Just PMed Hotncold, guess I wrote down his cell wrong. Left work around 9:45pm and I wasn't sure if you guys were there so I didn't want to ride down there not knowing if you guys were there or not. Have to hook up next week, sorry guys : (

T2693 04.02.2005 12:17 AM

K, reviewing all this material, yeah I'm a little slow, lol

I take it I need two diff cups, front and rear and two diff cases, front and rear, do I need two collars or should I just get one of these kits instead? I think one kit will do both front and rear.

UE 7.5 Diff Kit 6 Spyder

or

7.5 Diff Kit 8 Sypder

What's your take? I was reading that you should change your gear ratio. Now I'm a little lost in the mix, sorry guys. Suggestions please.

I see the CF chassis is in. Mike, to convert the chassis I need the following correct?

G2 CF chassis

Gorilla Maxx G2 chassis extension kit, Mike, Do you carry the CF extension kit?

G2 Motor Mount

Supermaxx titanium center driveshaft kit

I figure I'll start there, lol....

Probably going to go Proline Powerstroke Performance Shock Kit, Mike do you carry this? If so, that added to the chassis convert project if recommanded.

RPM shock tower, wide a-arms and Steering Knuckles / Axle Carriers to keep it light as possible.

What's your take on this setup for chassis, shocks, towers, arms and knuckles?

HotnCold 04.02.2005 07:47 AM

#'s
 
Yep - i pm'd you the right #- LOL - its cool - i broke last night anyway - lol - how and what do you say? Well I broke my right front rim completely off my Gmaxx when i hit the triple and shot straight up and smashed into the ceiling - LOL - was a sight to see.

RC-Monster Mike 04.02.2005 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by T2693
K, reviewing all this material, yeah I'm a little slow, lol

I take it I need two diff cups, front and rear and two diff cases, front and rear, do I need two collars or should I just get one of these kits instead? I think one kit will do both front and rear.

UE 7.5 Diff Kit 6 Spyder

or

7.5 Diff Kit 8 Sypder

What's your take? I was reading that you should change your gear ratio. Now I'm a little lost in the mix, sorry guys. Suggestions please.

I see the CF chassis is in. Mike, to convert the chassis I need the following correct?

G2 CF chassis

Gorilla Maxx G2 chassis extension kit, Mike, Do you carry the CF extension kit?

G2 Motor Mount

Supermaxx titanium center driveshaft kit

I figure I'll start there, lol....

Probably going to go Proline Powerstroke Performance Shock Kit, Mike do you carry this? If so, that added to the chassis convert project if recommanded.

RPM shock tower, wide a-arms and Steering Knuckles / Axle Carriers to keep it light as possible.

What's your take on this setup for chassis, shocks, towers, arms and knuckles?


You correct in your statement about needing two diff cases and diff cups. The collars aren't needed, but add to the "bling" factor. the Ue diffs are an upgrade from the Maximizer/Integy parts, and do require a slightly different gearing. We can get to that when you determine the setup you want to go with.
I do carry all the G-maxx parts, including the motor mounts and extension kits, as well as the Proline shocks, and can get the RPM stuff pretty easily.
The CF chassis, extension, Proline shocks and rpm knuckles are all excellent options. I don't particularly like the rpm stock towers or suspension arms, but others do, so it is a matter of preference. The tower don't offer enough adjustment for my liking, and I prefer proline arms to any other plastic arm. Again, this is just my preference. I can get any of these items if this is what you wish.

T2693 04.02.2005 11:57 PM

I'll PM you Mike, threads getting nutty lol.

HotnCold your off the hook crashing into the ceiling. You racing a rocket ship or a R/C truck, lol.... Hope you can get it fixed up by next week. I'm working a close again so I'll holla at you with the correct number, lol....

HotnCold 04.03.2005 08:08 AM

Fixed the gmaxx on sat morning - ready to spackle the sheetrock - LOL

T2693 04.05.2005 11:59 PM

Get some video next time HotnCold, lol

K, I was looking over things and I'll be setting some things over over the next couple months so here's the questions

8 will work with 6 cells

9 will work with 7 cells

I currently have 2 6 cell packs so if I go with the 9 I can't use the 6 cell packs?

Between the titans and the 8 what will I notice? More speed? How much faster is the 9 over the 8?

Just trying to figure out what will be the best route for me.

Thanks

HotnCold 04.06.2005 06:34 AM

your thinking is correct if when you say 8 and 9 you mean 8L and 9L. The 8L will work fine with your 2 6cell packs. You are going to want to increase the cell count if you are going to go with a lower turn motor like 9L or 10L. It will work but it will be slower - but youll get a lot more torque and longer runtime with the lower turn motors. Between the titans and the 8L what will you notice? A lot more speed and a lot more torque and more run time as well... The best thing you can do is check out the way they perform and go from there.... Talk to ya later - PM me your tel # and well get in contact before fri - My hard drive went down - Lost everything...


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