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Serum 11.04.2006 12:39 PM

Neu Tupperware© upgrade! (awesome work Mike!!)
 
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Guys, just got a Neu 1515 from Mike, and i was concerned about the large holes.. Entire bricks would fit thru.. not so good..

Mike included something SWEET! check the pics, emailed him about it, they will be available any time

(just like the slipperential, waiting is for the motor mounts, they are ready to be packed and shipped!!)

sjcrss 11.04.2006 01:20 PM

cool, I've been waiting for the slipperential......can't wait to get one.....merry xmas to me .....when i get one that is.......& that is awesome about the cap for the motor......i'm sure that will keep alot of crap out of the motor too

squeeforever 11.04.2006 01:57 PM

What is that made of? I would guess plastic for cost, machinability, etc, but aluminum for the heatsink effect...

captain harlock 11.04.2006 02:00 PM

Wont the effeciency of the motor be affected by the cap?

I think those large holes were made to cool down the motor a bit more.

BrianG 11.04.2006 02:29 PM

That's why it comes with the motor as a seperate item, so you can choose whether you wish to use it or not. IMO, the windings are right on the can so as long as you have adequate can cooling, the holes will do little.

Serum 11.04.2006 03:32 PM

It's of plastic, don't know what type, seems durable to me!

And it doesn't affect the efficiency the motor. Efficiency and temperature are two different things, and what's better? having sand and stones in your motor or having it 1-2 degree C hotter?

captain harlock 11.04.2006 04:47 PM

Hmmm...yeah that's right.
Well, good luck with that dude.
I might get the smaller one for my future buggy.

Serum 11.04.2006 05:21 PM

wel, eversince Mike will be producing them, they can help all of us dudes with our luck!

LOL

Nick 11.04.2006 08:24 PM

How does it hold on?

It's a deal breaker that cap for me. I think the holes could cause problems in the places I use my truck.

squeeforever 11.04.2006 08:36 PM

Nick, what do you mean by deal breaker?

aqwut 11.04.2006 09:26 PM

an aluminum cover would be nice.... imagine running that motor with the holes one a dry dirt track.... heheh.. is it right to say, good-bye.... the cover's nice touch.. but aluminum would even be better.... just use aluminum duct tape... ;)

coolhandcountry 11.04.2006 09:46 PM

What is the cost of the new cover? I got neu motor long time ago. I have to
ask mike about this. I like the idea.

jhautz 11.05.2006 01:28 AM

I want one!!!!! I use black electrical tape over the holes now with no cooling issues at all. A black plactic slip on cover is a trick little solution. I'm sure it cant be any worse than the electical tape for cooling.

I'm all over it as soon as they are available. The tape works, but looks like a hack job on such a sweet motor.

JThiessen 11.05.2006 01:59 AM

Quote:

just use aluminum duct tape...
Actually - there is an aluminum tape that you can get. We use it quite often in the aircraft industry. You might try a hardware store - and look for metalic duct repair tape.

jhautz 11.05.2006 02:24 AM

Crap... Just looking at this picture. Am I gonna have to unsolder my 5mm connectors from the motor wires to fit this cover on? It looks like the holes are just big enough to fit over the wires without the coneectors installed.:mad:

captain harlock 11.05.2006 02:35 AM

I think plastic is much better and safer. I dont know how should you put it on the motor, but does it hold up perfectly?

Nick 11.05.2006 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by squeeforever
Nick, what do you mean by deal breaker?

I wouldn't want the motor with holes in it. Where I use my truck it will get loads of gank in it (wet British fields). Without the cap I would go for a 1940 or 1950, makes the Neus usuable for me, which for the performance and price, I would prefer + cap over the Lehners.

Serum 11.05.2006 06:15 AM

Yeah, with both the neu and the lehner motors in my hands, i must say i am impressed with the Neu's.

coolhandcountry 11.05.2006 09:27 AM

Could you explain rene? I like some features about them both.

Nick 11.05.2006 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Yeah, with both the neu and the lehner motors in my hands, i must say i am impressed with the Neu's.

Which do you prefer? Ignoring the price difference.

Serum 11.05.2006 11:24 AM

I like the looks and feel of the Neu better. A 1515 is a fat motor.

Plus they are 4 poles.

RC-Monster Mike 11.08.2006 02:00 PM

The cap is made from delrin. Rene's is an early prototype. I made one from aluminum as well, but the nice thing with the delrin is the fact that I can make the pocket ID slightly undersized - kind of a press fit. This allows friction to hold it on the motor vs. an adhesive. The aluminum cap looks sweet, but it can't be simply pressed on to stayin place. I used a rubber mallet to tap the delrin one onto the rear of the motor - not likely to go anywhere and is a nice tight seal. The motor wire holes are NOT large enough to push a 5.5mm plug through, but a 4mm or 3.5mm plug will fit through. If using 5.5mm plugs, they have to be soldered onto the wires after installing the cap.

sjcrss 11.08.2006 02:04 PM

nice idea Mike, good idea by "thinking outside the box".....I'm sure the neu owners will scarf them up.....

BrianG 11.08.2006 03:37 PM

Sweet! Simple yet effective!

If the Aluminum one can be made so it will stay on there, how about adding some kind of mount point to hook a rear brace on it to support the back of the motor? Just a solid tab with so the user can drill whatever hole they want to use.

Or is the Delrin one strong enough for this? Maybe one can drill a hole in the cap where one of the motor holes would be and insert a button cap screw there from the inside.

Just my $0.02.

neweuser 11.08.2006 03:45 PM

Mike - YGPM lol

Purplefade 11.08.2006 09:40 PM

The cap is 's a great idea and I like that it's also very light. Couldn't you just tap it and run a 3mm set screw up against the can to help hold it on?? BrianG, you mentioned drilling it above, we're you talking about doing the same thing? Another simple idea that was mentioned was aluminum ducktape, it works good at blocking stuff but is gooyie when it gets hot, aluminum heat tape for furnaces works great!! It is very light, dry type adhevise, made for "hot" surfaces, it's also true aluminum so it disipates (sp) heat very quickly thus not affecting (if it really does by much) your over all running temps. If your concearned about it coming loose you can run a VERY small bead of clear, high temp, silicon around the edge of it to help "seal" it to the back of the can.

Just my thoughts, from other motors I've used, I don't actually own a Neu motor.. yet!

Procharged5.0 11.09.2006 01:35 PM

Put me on the list! I want one!

cart213 11.09.2006 02:30 PM

Me too! How much, Mike?

Finnster 11.09.2006 03:23 PM

If you are still working on a design, perhaps look at what this company has to offer (at least it was something I was thinking of):

http://www.stockcap.com/prod_detail.asp?id=126&cat=14

They have a whole assortment of vinyl and LDPE caps, plugs and flange covers that may work really well. The caps themselves are generally very inexpensive ($.01 to ~$0.1 per cap) and usually ready to ship. This option isn't really available to a single user b/c they have min orders of several hundred (depending on cap) but may work well for you as a distributor.

You can get ~free samples as well to try a few differnt ones out. The vinyl are particularly nice as they are stretchy and would snug fit the motor. Something like SR-1525 or SR-1650 may work quite well for a rear cover. An LDPE cap could be found for the front if needed.

The only consideration is how well the vinyl would continue to work on a hot motor.

Finnster 11.09.2006 05:31 PM

I was also going to say that putting a zip tie around the motor wires upto the cap, or putting a bit of shoe goo around the wire holes should also work to extra secure the cap and seal it up.

The vinyl stockcaps could be cut with undersized holes to also secure it onto the motor and seal it up as well. Should make it easily removable to get to the bearing for oiling.

:)


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