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crazyjr 02.01.2007 07:26 PM

For all you Tamiya fans
 
Check out the new Tamiya truggy, The Nitrage, pay attention to the tramsmission. http://forums.radiocontrolzone.com/s...d.php?t=233197

jnev 02.01.2007 08:27 PM

Not exactly a Tamiya fan, but it actually looks decent. Wonder how it wil compare to other larger truggies like the losi muggy.

GorillaMaxx360 02.01.2007 09:40 PM

look nice but i to am not a tamiya die hard fan

BlackedOutREVO 02.01.2007 11:35 PM

WTF??? there no pinion on the motro, it goes to a dog bone, and on the motor theres a out drive... thats WIERD... i wonder how that works???

BrianG 02.02.2007 12:03 AM

The dogbone goes inside the tranny and is connected to the pinion there...

glassdoctor 02.02.2007 12:20 AM

That looks cool... would be a killer BL conversion. I think it would be easy to do.... just put a outdrive cup on the motor shaft and strap it down using a *cough* finedesign *cough* style motor mount.

crazyjr 02.02.2007 03:36 AM

Need to do something about that cold Glassdoctor

GorillaMaxx360 02.02.2007 08:58 AM

for all you xray fans check out the xray site and look at there new nitro truggy, buggy, and car. AND yes i am an xray fan

jhautz 02.02.2007 07:58 PM

Only problem I see with this is for a BL conversion is changing the gearing. I cant quite tell if you can change the pinion gear inside that transmision.

Very diferent... I'll give em that!!!

glassdoctor 02.02.2007 08:03 PM

yeah... you would need to get the motor right cause you might have to just swap motors instead of gears. ;)

*cough*

tough to get rid of this dang cold, hee hee

jhautz 02.02.2007 08:07 PM

I just noticed that it has a built in slipper clutch on the back of that transmision. You dont see that everyday on a nitro. Now it looks like it was meant to be coverted to Brushless:018:

I wonder if thats a diff inside that transmision.?????? If it is, this is looking more and more like a Tamiya Sliperential that might be adaptable to just about any truggy or buggy.

coolhandcountry 02.02.2007 08:35 PM

That don't look to shabby.

captain harlock 02.02.2007 10:23 PM

I was about to post a thread about the Nitrage( the name does not harmonize with our powerplants, though).

I then stopped and changed my mind.

Larry preceded me to it.

jhautz 02.02.2007 10:32 PM

So we rename it the Electrage or the Erage

I was looking at this Im not sure I would even try and convert this one. The chassis doesnt look to friendly for laying out a BL system with the batteries. The whole truck doesnt really look that tough. I am interested in the transmision though. Im wondering how tough it really is. I have never had a Tamiya before. I kinda just always tought of them as borderline toys.

coolhandcountry 02.02.2007 10:42 PM

Ussually tamiya puts good drivelines in them. Them seem to like mod 1 gears.

jnev 02.03.2007 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360
for all you xray fans check out the xray site and look at there new nitro truggy, buggy, and car. AND yes i am an xray fan

Just looked at them after you mentioned they had some new rc's. They look sweet. :004:

captain harlock 02.03.2007 02:19 AM

Borderline toys!!!!

If Tamiya hears you say this, they'll shut down their American head quarter in no time...:)

Really, though, if you ask me about the toughest and highest in quality kits in the market, Tamiya would always be my choice, Jeff. People always doupt the potential of their kits.
They've even won the IFMAR worlds twice with their 414 and 415 touring sedans.

Also, their newest TNX GP version is said to be able to do 60mph in an instant out of the box.

Their highend kits are no borderline toys, at all, IMHO.

jhautz 02.03.2007 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain harlock
Borderline toys!!!!

If Tamiya hears you say this, they'll shut down their American head quarter in no time...:)

Really, though, if you ask me about the toughest and highest in quality kits in the market, Tamiya would always be my choice, Jeff. People always doupt the potential of their kits.
They've even won the IFMAR worlds twice with their 414 and 415 touring sedans.

Also, their newest TNX GP version is said to be able to do 60mph in an instant out of the box.

Their highend kits are no borderline toys, at all, IMHO.

Like I said. I have never had one. It was just my perception for the few I have seen here and there. I must not have seen the higher end kits.

Are they going to offer the Nitrage in kit form? or just RTR?

squeeforever 02.03.2007 03:38 PM

To be honest, its not a great truggy if that is only a slipper in there. If theres no center diff, its not gonna be all that great. Personally, I like it, but without a center diff I would never buy one.

captain harlock 02.03.2007 04:32 PM

Tamiya did not go all out with this one. My best guess is that it's gonna be an RTR just like the TNX. And I don't even think it's gonna be competetive in it's current form. A set of hop ups is to be released, soon.

Also, for brushless, this dude is gonna be a major PITA. The chassis is quite narrow if you ask me.

Mike.L 02.04.2007 11:30 AM

yea...leroy it doesn't look to bad. But id rather do a lsp or the new xt8 from x-ray!

jhautz 02.04.2007 01:10 PM

The main thing Im wondering is if the transmision has a dif in it. If it does I just want to get my hands on the transmision only. I'm wondering if it can be adapted to other buggys/truggies. Basically a slipperential for buggies and truggies. When are they due to be released? It will be a month or so after that that parts from parted out kits start showing up on ebay.

revopqrs 02.06.2007 03:44 PM

nope... dont like it! its a mutant? it cant race in the truggy class because it has a tranny, so its more targeted for the revo i guess? its not a truggy if it has a tranny. they even say "optional 2 speed" doh!

we were just talkin about this at my site, noone seems too impressed.

gawd... i just read some from tamiya themselves. ive lost all respect for that company! read these quotes..
its all jibberish!! lol..

"Tamiya is the first to bring this special feature to the R/C world. Even the connection between the engine clutch bell and the spur gear are completely enclosed and protected from outside interference. As a result, all gears have constant stable lubrication and gear backlash is contained by the gearcase. This means the Nitrage does not need to resort to using any heavy and expensive steel gear parts, giving fans more modification flexibility."

more modification flexability!! lol.. thats what were all looking for!! lol.. screw steel gears, i want plastic so i have some flexability!

heres another... what planet are these people from? trying to start a new race class with this turd? it cant race truggy...

"OPTION PARTS AVAILABLE SOON!
Both performance-enhancing and cosmetic Option Parts are planned for release in the near future. Keep an eye out especially for announcements of the 2-speed transmission that will increase top speed to 80km/hr (approx. 50mph) and powerful twin disc brakes. "

its like these people have been asleep for the last couple years and someone had a dream about this buggy monster truck hybrid.. its all about the wing.

"DISTINCTIVE REAR WING
The large rear wing on the Nitrage is a double-split design inspired by those equipped on actual WRC cars. Catch pin attachment means the upper surface of the wing remains flat, adding to its stylish appearance. Since the wing is connected to the chassis and not the body shell, it clearly distinguishes the Nitrage as a Tamiya product even when the body is removed. "

good lord.. it keeps getting better!! lol..

"WIDE-SPAN FRONT SUSPENSION UPPER ARM
Truggies from other makers usually feature upper I arms for the front suspension, which offer flexibility but are lacking in structural strength. The Nitrage has specially designed upper A arms for the front suspension that allow flexible suspension travel without sacrificing strength. "

gotta have that.



either theyre crazy, or theyre trying to compete in the mt class? thats no truggy. close... but with a tranny, so illegal to race with truggies. but it would race with revos........ that might put a whoopin on a revo at the track?


the last tamiya i had was a frog....

jnev 02.06.2007 08:29 PM

Thats hilarious... and pretty pathetic at the same time.

Sylvester 02.06.2007 08:35 PM

Tamiya messed up.. bigtime!

squeeforever 02.06.2007 09:57 PM

To be honest, that can't race MT either...The engine sits to low...It could possible race truggy, or "outlaw", at some tracks because the truggy classes is anything that can't run MT...

glassdoctor 02.06.2007 11:44 PM

I think it's a cool truck... 90% of trucks sold never get raced.

BUT since this is the topic... how is it "legal" for a highly modified (truggified) Revo or Maxx to race in MT class? I'm guessing sometimes it's not... you have to run with the truggies?

revopqrs 02.06.2007 11:58 PM

because they have a transmission that is above the driveline. buggies/truggies its all direct, on a flat pan.

coolhandcountry 02.07.2007 08:46 AM

The rules vary from track to track to. It may race different classes at different tracks.

skeeler 02.20.2007 11:30 PM

Outdrive Cup
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by glassdoctor
That looks cool... would be a killer BL conversion. I think it would be easy to do.... just put a outdrive cup on the motor shaft and strap it down using a *cough* finedesign *cough* style motor mount.

Forgive me, but I'm a newbie to the world of electric conversion. Where can you get the kind of outdrive cup you are talking about? I could imagine using the transmission with the optional 2-speed to build up a 2-speed BL 1/8th buggy.

Note, by the way, that there is a center diff in the tranny. From the press release:

Quote:

Furthermore, the differential gear on the Nitrage is doubly protected, first by its own durable case and then by a second enclosure formed around it by the front and rear gearboxes.
Also, note that the 2-speed is optional; the Nitrage will run in the truggy class as long as the stock single-speed is kept.

Edit: Here's a photo showing the front and rear brakes, which strongly suggests a center diff:

http://www.radiocontrol.gr/images/tamiya01020713.JPG

revopqrs 02.21.2007 02:07 AM

yikes... look at the servo saver it uses....:010:


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