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Caine 02.26.2007 06:26 PM

T4 faq
 
Hey well I am planning on getting a ft t4 in a few months and was wondering what brushless sytem and all that to get for it so heres some questions.

1.brushless system for racing,I want more power than I need,im using 2s lipo at the moment but i need the motor to be able to handle 3s.
2.Esc, i was thinkin mamba, yay nay?
3.any hopups i should be putting on er?
4.can i see some pics and setups you guys have for your xxxt mf2 or ft t4s?
( im asking the losi because my dad has it)
5.At the track I saw a guy that on his rear tires of his t4 there a small bar looked like on the a-arms swinging over to i think the motor, i may be wrong i just glanced at it, he said it helped a bit and i am wondering what its called and what it does if anyone knows.

Thanks alot, and I figure since I will have alot of questions on this car that I should just start a t4 faq so everyone could ask questions and new people like myself could look in here and pick up a few things.

Sylvester 02.26.2007 06:55 PM

Welcome to the forums!

1) Mamba max 5700 all the way.
2)Yay.
3)FT T4 should be fine, id reccomend a RPM gear cover, though.
4)Unfortunatly, no pics, i run a FT B4.
5)I think it could have been the AE lead weights, i doubt it though.

Caine 02.26.2007 08:45 PM

Thanks for the reply and sorry for the very vague description of the pole, but if it sounds familiar to anyone it would be greatly appreciated if you posted, if not ill just ask the guy next time.

Keep the replies and posts coming!

So far my list is:
1.Ft T4
2.Rpm blue gear cover
3.gt2 arms( yay or nay?)
4.high torque high speed racing servo
5.aluminum idler just for security( the ft doesnt come with one does it?)
6.Blue ball cup thingys, i think there called ball cups? or ball ends?

Thats it for now, any suggestions on brushless motors or should i just get the mm 5700 for racing?
If any other suggestions on upgrades/setup please do chime in.

Thanks,Caine

entjoles 02.26.2007 09:04 PM

maybe a swaybar for high speed cornering?

jnev 02.26.2007 09:24 PM

Definately the Mamba 5700, just because it is so programable. And the front a-arms are knwo for breaking, so yes, I would suggest the RPM gt2 a-arms.

Caine 02.26.2007 09:33 PM

YES A SWAY BAR i remember now he said sway something, thanks so much.
Does anyone know how much these cost and what exactly they do and if they are worth it?

is there a handling difference between the gt2 arms and the graphite ones coming with the ft?( i think they are graphite)brain fart sorry.

The same guy with the sway bar had a small black can he called a resistor that went to the servo and he told me it got more power to the servo.
is this true and how does it do this? does it hook right up to the receiver plug into the servo, i dont know how that would work but thats how he had it.

anything to add to the list?

glassdoctor 02.26.2007 09:34 PM

Probably saw a swaybar... nothing unique to a T4, but rarely used in 1/10 offroad.

I have a FT T4. I just dropped it off today for a buddy of mine to borrow for a big race this weekend... the ChiTown Shootout. I'm not going to make it so he's racing my truck.

I second the MM5700... I have run that in my T4 and it's a great setup for it. Awesome on the track on 6 cells and it will take 3s... it's the only (out-of-the-box) system you can do that with.

Mine has been box stock FT... it really doesn't "need" any mods or hop-ups. But this weekend it will likely get the GT2 front end.... front arms, steering blocks and carriers. I have broke a front arm a couple times on one track layout.

The Losi titanium ballstuds are a nice upgrade. I have them on my B4... haven't put them on the T4 yet. They are pricey at $9 a pair but you won't break them, and they have hex heads so installing/removing them is great.

It doesn't come with an alum idler.... but I've never had a stock one go bad yet. But I haven't run 3s either. ;)

Caine 02.26.2007 09:54 PM

sorry im new so dont hurt me on these questions.

1. what exactly is a steering block and a carrier?

2. whats a ball stud, is i the the little ball you set the ball cap on?

3. ball end and ball cap same thing right?

You guys prolly think its rediculous, but you got to start somewhere.

jnev 02.26.2007 10:35 PM

The ball end and ball cup are the same thing. The ball stud is where you put the ball cup on; it pops right onto it.

Caine 02.26.2007 10:58 PM

alright cool, thanks.
anyone know about the steering block and carrier?
What exactly is a "hub" carrier in rc terms?
it looks like a bearing carrier, its on the rear of the t4 next to the axle stubs.

glassdoctor 02.27.2007 12:31 AM

The steering block is the steering arm that holds the front wheel axles.. and the carrier is the "C" shaped hub that holds the steering arm.
steering block:
http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...g-Block/Detail
carrier, or caster block:
http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...C25-Deg/Detail
rear hub carrier
http://www.losipartshouse.com/servle...Carrier/Detail

You don't need to change out any of these parts... but some are using the GT2 front end parts because they are beefier...

crazyjr 02.27.2007 01:00 AM

I have run a 5700 with a 3s lipo, but not 2s lipo. On 6 cells NIMH its a handful, on 3s lipo its a scud missle, Its almost totally uncontrolable, make sure you got a big area to run on 3s and a light trigger finger

Caine 02.27.2007 08:18 AM

maybe ill stick with 2s for racing lol.

jhautz 02.27.2007 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glassdoctor
I have a FT T4. I just dropped it off today for a buddy of mine to borrow for a big race this weekend... the ChiTown Shootout. I'm not going to make it so he's racing my truck.

GD, Thats funny, I was going to go check that out on Saturday. No planning on racing, but I was going to swing by out there to check what was going on.

glassdoctor 02.27.2007 11:20 AM

Cool... for a fast dude with yellow/white paint jobs with red/silver custom stickers on his buggy and truck. His name is Mack... he's a nice guy and stupid fast.

Caine 02.28.2007 02:06 PM

what does a sway bar do?
what brushless motors and if you have lipo what lipo are you guys/gals running in ya t4s?
oh and if your have pics of your t4's dont hesitate to post em.:027:

BrianG 02.28.2007 04:04 PM

A sway bar loosely couples the suspension on both sides of the vehicle to help reduce body roll and can be "tuned" by using stiffer bar stock. You don't want it too tightly coupled or when one side articulates over a small bump, the other side will too.

You can see it working by picking up a car (so it's off the tires) with a sway bar setup. Push up on one of the wheels. Once you get to a certain point, the sway bar will cause the other side to raise as well, just not as much.

Sylvester 02.28.2007 05:07 PM

And i have noticed that in my lsp i prefer running rear sway bars only, the front sway bars are not the greatest since it give the truck this weird feeling.

jnev 02.28.2007 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caine
what brushless motors and if you have lipo what lipo are you guys/gals running in ya t4s?

The Mamba Max as many others will say as well, will be great in your t4 mainly because it is so programable. As for lipo, I am also still learning about these kinds of batteries, but the Max Amps 2s or 3s 4000 packs seem to be doing well for many people.

Sylvester 02.28.2007 07:34 PM

Im running 2s2p 8000mah maxamps lipo in my B4.

Caine 02.28.2007 09:16 PM

how does the s in 2s mean cell except its not spelled cell but its spelled "sell"?
And much runtime you get off that 8k in ya b4 for alot of full throttlin?

glassdoctor 02.28.2007 09:39 PM

"2s2p"
the s means series
the p means parallel

It describes how the pack is constructed... what the voltage is, how many total cells are in it, etc.

Caine 03.01.2007 08:28 AM

ohh alright thanks lol i thought it always meant cell.
Do most people run setup sheets or do they just run what they think is good for the track?Because I asked a guy if he used a setup sheet and he said he uses his own tweaks and stuff.( This guy being one of the better guys at the track)

Caine 03.09.2007 04:44 PM

could I safely run a 7.4v or 2s lipo with a novak 5.5 gtb combo?

Sylvester 03.09.2007 05:02 PM

No problems on running 2s in the GTB..

jollyjumper 03.09.2007 05:31 PM

look here for setups:

http://www.rc10.com/racerhub/setup/0...oad.htm#RC10T4

try to find one where the surface and lay-out match the track you'll be racing on.

also try to match the power-output somewhat if you know what i mean by that.


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