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Nitr0 03.11.2007 08:45 PM

Gt2
 
Hey well I want to get into nitro after being in electric for a month, electric leaves me longing for the nitro noise and the cool feel of it. Alot of people are going to be running a gt2 so I was wondering if this is a good car to get started that is user friendly,durable, and a high performer. I was really thinking of getting the ft and building it up with decent race stuff so I could actually learn about how it runs instead of just gassing it and going.What else do I need besides an engine?( reccomendations please?)Is the gt2 even a good car, if not,whats another 2wd stadium truck that would be better,around same price?

Thanks so much and GREAT SITE awesome stuff!
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squeeforever 03.11.2007 10:02 PM

First off, welcome to the forums. Second, I would definately stay away from nitro, but if you insist, I would go with the Jato 3.3. It, combined with a few small modifications can make for a nice truck.

Nitr0 03.12.2007 07:19 AM

squee arent you the nitro crazy person hating electric? Why do you hate it?
Can anyone else chime in about this car and nitro in general if you could kindly do so.

crazyjr 03.12.2007 03:04 PM

The GT2 is a nice truck, i have one and love it. Its a huge improvement over the GT. I haven't run mine too much yet but it seems real stable compared to a friends GT

squeeforever 03.12.2007 04:40 PM

Why would I be a nitro crazy electric hating person? If I was, I'm sure I would'nt be a Mod. :p I love electrics. Actually, I sold all my nitros to further improve me electric collection. :)

Nitr0 03.12.2007 06:17 PM

may i ask why you sold your nitro stuff and to upgrade your lectric collection, i only ask because i dont wanna get a nitro and then ahve no idea what the heck im doing and be super lost..

jnev 03.12.2007 06:26 PM

Many fo the member here just don't liek the hassle of nitro. Like me for example, I hate tuning, they are noisy, and htey get a lot dirtier after you drive them. Justa few reasons. Electrics are quieter, no maintanence, minimal amount of cleaning and they can be faster, and run for longer with the right set up.

wallot 03.12.2007 06:49 PM

What I started to like about nitros is that you just go buy one and enjoy lots of power unlike big BL where you have to invest much more money to get same and more power.
However i loved the look of my nitro friends when they seen my maxx accelerate and doing wheelies (or most often backflips from standstill - landing on roof ofcourse :) ) on gravel

squeeforever 03.12.2007 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitr0
may i ask why you sold your nitro stuff and to upgrade your lectric collection, i only ask because i dont wanna get a nitro and then ahve no idea what the heck im doing and be super lost..

Nitro is a hassle...Don't get me wrong, I will probably own another, purely for racing, mind you. I don't have a job as of yet and to get my electric trucks like I wanted them, something had to go....Nitro was an obvious choice...

crazyjr 03.12.2007 10:43 PM

I agree to a certian point Squee, but in the words of the great Indian Larry (custom bike builder, for those who are not familar with the name)" In order to gain from a particular hobby/profession, you must embrace all aspects including the ones you don't like. That way you gain from the total experience". I play with both and love them for different reasons. For those who are interested, I come from an electric background.

MetalMan 03.13.2007 12:56 AM

I've done nitro in the past, and my experiences have pushed me toward electric RC. Since I work at the LHS I also work with nitro vehicles, so I'm certainely not a noob when it comes to nitro. I can tune, start, or do whatever with them, sometimes even better than the other nitro guys there. But the general work involved with nitro is just not worth it to me. And nitro engines don't have as good of a lifespan as BL motors do (in terms of use, assuming neither is abused). I still have my first BL motor from almost 2 1/2 years ago, and it still is running fine (Feigao 8L).

Electrics offer more power, and are offering more and more power all the time. Batteries are improving, ESCs are improving, and high quality motors can be acquired. Nitro engines aren't improving much at all (as I see it), especially in comparison to electric power systems.

BP-Revo 03.13.2007 01:28 AM

Yea...I only use nitro for bashing since I can just keep putting fuel in. Lately I've been just driving my electrics and I hand my nitro's over to whatever buddies wanna come drive.

I do like nitro, but BL power just owns. (I really can't find a better way to describe it).

So, until they come out with a Supercharged 4-Stroke (or maybe a Turbo hehe), I'll stick to electric for racing and speed, nitro for bashing.

The one nitro I would race is a Revo with a 3.3 though...looks to be awesome. I can just imagine it to drive with my 2.5R but with a heck of alot more power...

I personally like nitro powerbands better (I like high revving, top end power), but BL power still has more there, and has ALOT more down low, so its my new fix for speed and power.

Its priceless when you ask your buddy "nitro or electric" and he choses nitro, then you drag race, and you smoke him (and your own truck lol).

One of my buddies thats going to get a truck soon wanted nitro and was wondering what kind he should get. Now his only requirements is that its BL and 4wd lol...


PS. I agree with squee though...Jato is a heck of a truck. I love my Jato 2.5...too bad my dad like it in nitro form (its his truck) cause I'd love to drop a MM5700 on 3S in that sucker and see it romp on Jato 3.3's lol

Nitr0 03.13.2007 07:38 AM

So basically I thought it through and I was thinking of getting nutha electric soooo heres what i was thinking strictly racing.


Ft t4 with novak/gtb 4.5 or 5.5 dnno which yet for big track 2 straights
Airtronics 94758z .06 seconds speed 6volts? typo? feedback on it for racing?
Spektrm dx2
2s carbon lipo orion,( already have)
Ice charger ( already have)
Posi lock quick changes in rear

That should give me one KILLER racing setup.
commments suggestions?
Thanks for stepping in lectric guys:018: Im converted AHH!!

oh wait, it says for that servo I will only be able to run futaba jr hitec and hobbico systems? that mean i cant use ma dx2?

glassdoctor 03.13.2007 10:20 AM

I don't think you need or should run a 4.5 motor... or maybe even a 5.5 if you are serious about racing. A 6.5 on lipo is already stupid fast on a track. Just my opinion.

I have seen some 5.5 run in trucks but most of the guys say it's too much and they dial it back. So I say the 5.5 and be ready to calm it down.... slow is fast. ;)

BP-Revo 03.13.2007 11:18 AM

Some guys at my track actually run a 4.5 in their 4wd buggies.

Nitr0 03.13.2007 05:28 PM

alright so a 5.5 gtb combo it is. Do these now come with sintered rotors in them? and what about the spread spektrum technology, is it standard in the esc as well?

Can anyone give me a really nice racing servo for a ft t4?

Thanks alot

BP-Revo 03.13.2007 05:56 PM

A 5955 would be a good servo...and you would never have to worry about it. I'm pretty much going to use that servo for all my steering purposes. Best servo ever in my opinion.

Nitr0 03.13.2007 06:18 PM

who is it made by? link if you coudl.

thanks

jnev 03.13.2007 06:20 PM

Here:
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...&I=LXHZR9&P=ML

Nitr0 03.13.2007 06:30 PM

Id rather not go with hitec due to the practically no support it has at my track as well as the slow speed, but they do have nice torque for an emaxx or something.

If I buy a dx2, can I use any servo with it?Im looking for an airtronics one.
Whats the diff between a digital servo and a regular one?
RC I see that you like brushless! your sig lol.
Do you think a 4.5 is too much for a 150x80 track with some a couple of areas I could open it up on?

Thanks.

Nitr0 03.13.2007 06:41 PM

hey RC i just looked at your file and saw you like to snowboard, thats cool.I live in mass and just got into skiing although the season is almost over. Im going for my 2nd time on saturday.

squeeforever 03.13.2007 08:15 PM

Personally, 333oz/in. is WAY to much for a 3lb truck. Pure overkill. I would look at something like the Airtronics 94758Z.

Nitr0 03.13.2007 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitr0
Id rather not go with hitec due to the practically no support it has at my track as well as the slow speed, but they do have nice torque for an emaxx or something.

If I buy a dx2, can I use any servo with it?Im looking for an airtronics one.
Whats the diff between a digital servo and a regular one?
RC I see that you like brushless! your sig lol.
Do you think a 4.5 is too much for a 150x80 track with some a couple of areas I could open it up on?

Thanks.

anyone

glassdoctor 03.13.2007 09:32 PM

I think the 5.5 is plenty... 4wd are a different animal, better suited to insane power.

I would recomend an Ace 1313 for $80 or one of their faster ones for a little more $$. Everyone loves them....

crazyjr 03.13.2007 11:38 PM

Nitr0, the dx z590 is the same as a JR Z590mg so it will be a good servo

jnev 03.13.2007 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitr0
RC I see that you like brushless! your sig lol.
Do you think a 4.5 is too much for a 150x80 track with some a couple of areas I could open it up on?

Thanks.

Yah, you can say that I like brushless :005: . But I am sure there are people on the forum that are in love with it even more than me, lol. :005: The 4.5 will be an overkill for that track. Try to go for the Novak 5.5, or better yet, if your track allows sensorless systems, go for the Mamba Max as it will be the most programable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nitr0
hey RC i just looked at your file and saw you like to snowboard, thats cool.I live in mass and just got into skiing although the season is almost over. Im going for my 2nd time on saturday.

Yep, I love snowboarding. Except I am all the way on the west coast. This year was a slow year in terms of snwoboarding, as I only went a couple times. But the good thing is that I am going to Whistler, BC in Canada which si said to bet he #1 resort in North America. :027:

Nitr0 03.14.2007 07:25 AM

electric-nitro
electric-nitro????????!!Has any other person in the world had this debate in their heads?I went to bed and was thinking bout the pros and cons of both.

BrianG 03.14.2007 07:36 AM

I had a Nitro Revo, and while it was good and all, I much prefer my electrics. Like others have said; less mess, less maintenance, less noise, plug-n-play, better lifespan, can run indoors, etc etc. Some of the attraction for me is the challenge of the conversion. I don't really like taking things apart for maintenance, but I love to tinker in making the parts I need for whatever conversion I'm doing. And so far, I've only done Nitro conversions - nothing that was already electric.

crazyjr 03.14.2007 03:33 PM

Like i said i play with both and like them for different reasons. Nitro for lack of a better term, is cheap, easy speed and power. If you look at RTR's you will see. But, if there is a budget and looking top shelf for everything, they equal out in price and the brushless seems to have the advantage in power. just some things to think about

Nitr0 03.14.2007 08:44 PM

What is the need for a clutch if the gt2 is only one gear? I dont fuly understand the workings of these things yet as you can tell, thats why i wanna only do stadium truck so its only rear wheel drive makes it alot easier i think.

crazyjr 03.14.2007 11:19 PM

The centrifugal clutch is so the engine can idle and power the truck, the slipper clutch is for shocks in the driveline and protect the tranny against over power

RideIcon 03.23.2007 01:40 AM

you still thinking about buying a nitro truck? i'll sell you my jato 3.3 cuz i need the money to convert my revo 3.3 to electric:D

crazyjr 04.09.2007 08:34 PM

For those who are still looking at the GT2, stop looking and get it. Its the most stable nitro stadium truck i have ever seen or drove


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