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New setup for E-Revo !!!
I´m looking for a new setup for my E-Revo - I have been searching the forums, but haven´t found answers, so I hoping somebody can give a little help here :028:
My batteries are 2 x 8000 mah and 2 x 6000 mah 2s2p 7.4 v from maxamps. It´s for bashing only. I was thinking of getting novak 4.5. But I´m not sure - I´m spending about 300 $. I wan´t something easy and not with a ton of programming options. (have been runing quark 125B and feigao 540c 7xl before - but I wan´t less programming and lower budget this time) Can anyone give me some advices, please :007: |
buy a mamba max controller , a ubec and a a 7xl I am sure you will have all the power could want and need. The mamba is easy to program. I am sure you will be happy although a 7xl might be a bit much for a revo. I am sure if I am wrong someone will chime in and tell you what might be better but from what I have read it is a good setup that is not to expensive. Oh yea you should think about getting the heatsink clamp from Mike it helps to keep the rear endbell on because the pressed in style sometimes fall out of the can!
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I have been thinking of the mamba max, but on rc-mosnter.com I can read that it is only for 2-3s lipo - and I´m running 4s won´t that be a problem ?? What aboyt the 9920 ?
But what motor ?? I have a 540c 7xl laying arround and a UBEC. But the 7xl was too musch power for me and my bashing :-) |
4s should not be a problem as long as you disable the bec. If the 7xl is too much power for you and might want to check out a 9xl then. It will be slower but will give you better run times.
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What about the gearing if I go with the MM and Feigao 7xl. I have a strobe slipper (51 T ofna) and 16/20 T pinion. Will that be ok ??
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Don't feel worried about using 4s on the MM. After all, the ESC is rated for 12 cells which is VERY close to 4s. At nominal ratings, 4s=14.8 (3.7v/cell) and 12 cells=14.4 (1.2v/cell). Even at right-off-the-charger voltages, it is fine: 4s=16.8v (4.2v/cell) and 12 cells=16.8v (1.4v/cell).
If you already running a Quark, why not just keep it? You say you don't want lots of programming options, but once you set the programming it's done. And the Quark is actually smoother than the MM IMO (I have two of each). I don't know if I'd go with the MM and a 7XL. Someone else here has had issues with it. If you want to stick with the 7XL, I'd also stick with the Quark. |
I don´t have the quark anymore. AndI´m not sure about the 7xl.
What about this setup: Mamba max esc Feigao 540 8xl Heatsink clamp (xl) UBEC Strobe slipper with 51 T spur and 16/20 T pinion 2 x 2s2p 8000 mah 7.4v maxamps |
That sounds good. Although you might still want a fan for the MM...
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I have an assosiated TC4 cooling fan I can use.
Is this setup better then the Novak HV 4.5 ?? (that´s what I´m thinkig of also) |
The 4.5 may be faster, but the 8XL would be better from a power standpoint. The 4.5 is a very fast kv motor, for a MT motor (4800kv) where the 8XL is a slower motor (about 2000kv, both unloaded), the 8XL is also a bigger rotor design and develops more torque, so you can gear higher and maintain effeciency
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Where do I get the best bang for the buck - Novak 4.5 with lvc and lipo or this mm/feigao setup ?
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IMO, 8XL and MM. For less price you get a more powerful motor which is more versatile (can gear up for more speed). And the MM is a dream to program.
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Well I think my head just blow up - Going with the Quark 125B and Neu 1512 (just nout sure which one yet)
What is the best ? |
Wow, going from "best bang for the buck" to "high end". :)
For 4s, either the 1512 2d (2600 kv) or 1512 2.5d (2000 kv, but out of stock right now) For 5s, either the 1512 2.5d (2000 kv) or the 1512 2y (1400kv). The 2y might be a little too slow so you'd have to gear up a little. |
Yes what a change :-) what´s the difference on the 2600 kv motor and the 2000 kv ?
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The 2600 is just a "hotter" wind which will be faster on the same battery and gearing but also suck more juice and everything will run hotter. But of course you can gear it down and reduce the heat (and speed)
Between those two motors you can more or less make them run the same by adjusting the gearing. If you go with the 2600 just expect to run a smaller pinion than you would on the 2000, that's all. |
Since I now have decided to empty my wallet completly and go for a high end setup I will be sure to get the best esc for this neu motor :-)
Is that the Quark 125B or are there others in the same pricerange ?? should be my final question for now :-) |
Quark 125B..
Smooth as butter.. |
Yup, the Quark is smooooth...
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I've done hand tests, holding the shaft as hard as I could, couldn't stop it, and it was spinning slooooow, with the minimum throttle I could apply.
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I've been monkeying around with trucks lately too. I first did a Monster GT and now I'm playing round with a Losi Muggy. Both go at around 13lbs, so they are heavy with the 8Ah batteries that I run in them. I can say unreservedly, go with an 8XL or similar motor. If you get a Neu, give some serious consideration to either the 2000kv or 1900 kv (I think it's supposed to be more efficient) motor, or maybe even the 1700 if you go with the 1515. You do not want high rpms in a truck and I think that anything over 2000kv in a truck is high rpms.
If you want to be able to throw the largest brick of a battery into it and run until your fingers are tired without worrying about overheating anything, just keep it solid and don't go overboard. I started out with a 7XL in all five of the vehicles that I did and have since gone with the 8XL and that class of motor and am happier for having done it. On the plus side, you can gear the lower kv motors more and if you ever get the wild hair to try 5S, a sub 2000 kv motor would be the ticket for a rocketship ride. If speed isn't a primary concern, there's nothing wrong with a 9XL either. That and a MM controller would be cheap and whole bunch of fun. |
It seems like the Quark 125B has the most votes. But what about these:
Mamba Max MGM 16016 BK Warrior 12020 Would any of these be good for the Neu 1512 2.5d/f , Neu 1512 2d/F or the bigger Neu 1515 1y/F ?? What about the setup - as easy as possible ?? |
Don't use the BK Warrior (any model) for anything other than 2 pole motors (Feigao, LMT, etc). The Neus are 4 pole.
The Mamba Max doesn't work too well with the Neus either. People have run this ESC with multi-pole motors, so it must be something specific to the Neus. There is supposed to be a MM software update to address this, but is not available, and there is no ETA for when it will become available. The MGM should be a nice ESC, but some people have brake/reverse issues. The Quark would be your best bet IMO. It works very well with pretty much any motor... |
Ok - Thanks for helping. Now I just have to wait for the Neu´s to get back in stock :-)
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I did send him an email - he said hopefully no more then 1-2 weeks before they are back.
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