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jollyjumper 04.08.2007 10:48 AM

the latest member of the jollyjumper stable.
 
on order is this: http://www.teamlosi.com/Products/Def...rodID=LOSA0802
and this: mugen extended hex hub ( 12mm) mbx5t.
this allows these wheels and tires: http://www.grpgandini.com/uk/truggy.asp of wich the grips are on order.

the rest (brushless, lipo) has to wait till mike is done with the conversion kit.

Sylvester 04.08.2007 11:11 AM

Congrats!

Hopefully this will sway GD to switch his nitro demon into a brushless demon :)

jollyjumper 04.08.2007 11:33 AM

thanks man.
i sure hope to see GD convert his.

AAngel 04.08.2007 07:52 PM

Congrats jolly, although I still prefer the XB8, the 8ight is a very nice buggy/truck. Very well laid out and LIGHT. I can tell you from experience, your choice of controller and an 8XL or similar motor will make it a demon on the track.

gixxer 04.08.2007 09:07 PM

I am with you jolly. Ordered the 8t on thursday and just waiting for mike to finish up the conversion kit. Then I will order a neu 1515 2.5d and set it up. The only things I have to figure out is what gearing it will need and if I should order another mamba or just take the one from my buggy until the MMM is released.

squeeforever 04.08.2007 09:44 PM

Gixxer, what do you mean waiting for Mike to finish up the kit? He's assembling it for you?

gixxer 04.08.2007 10:21 PM

no he is working on a motor mount and the battery tray. he is doing one for himself and will put the mount in the store when done. Jolly and myself are just waiting for that so we finish the trucks.

the 8t actually comes as a race roller.

squeeforever 04.08.2007 11:17 PM

Ah, I see what you meant now.

jollyjumper 04.09.2007 03:04 AM

an xt8 would be my favorite actually, but i dont see a way around the steel spur.
other then making an adaptor for the ofna 51t spur.
i didnt really want that, 46t is big enough, it gives nice gearing range.
the 8-t was my second choice, mugen close third.
there is always time to do other vehicles later on.
the 8-t is easy, mike is doing one for himself and will put all the parts in the store. motor/diffmount and battery holders.

jollyjumper 04.09.2007 09:20 AM

battery: http://www.flightpower.be/detail.asp...041&CatID=2042.
motor: bk wanderer 8XL ( just to start out with).
speedo: mamba max with bec disabled.
gearing: 46/15 (5.63"/143mm grp grip tires, 4.3/1 diffs) for 35mph at 14.8V.:D:D:p

jollyjumper 04.11.2007 02:47 PM

just got mail from mike about the motor, he wont stock it any more.
so feigao 8XL it is instead.

BrianG 04.11.2007 02:53 PM

What motor is he not going to stock anymore?

jollyjumper 04.11.2007 02:58 PM

bk wanderer

BrianG 04.11.2007 03:30 PM

Wow, that's surprising. I would think thats a good seller...

jollyjumper 04.11.2007 04:44 PM

he told its because the feigao is the same motor any way.

BrianG 04.11.2007 05:02 PM

I guess that's true. However, the purple color scheme doesn't match other components I have. I guess I'll just have to get Neus from now on (that must be Mike's scheme to make more money, lol).

AAngel 04.11.2007 05:27 PM

I converted an 8ight and used the stock diff. It's the same as that found in the Sportwerks/Losi trucks and buggies. The Kyosho spur will fit with minor modification. Although I do mine on a lathe, I'm sure the you could get by using other means.

BrianG 04.11.2007 05:28 PM

What modification did you have to do?

squeeforever 04.11.2007 07:39 PM

I like the purple better, but thats just me. :p

AAngel 04.11.2007 07:45 PM

Brian, if you look at the part of the spur where the bearing sits (not the spindle itself, but the part that is wider than the spindle and spaces the bearing), it is about 20/1000ths of an inch too tall. I chuck the spur up in my lathe and turn this down so that the bearing will go down far enough onto the spindle. Then I flip it over and take about 10/1000ths off of the edge of the relief where the diff cup fits into the spur. One of these days, I'm going to get an aluminum diff cup and modify that so that I can do away with the second step. I suppose that you could modify the plastic diff cup with a dremel or something, but doing it on the lathe is so quick that I don't mind doing it.

BrianG 04.11.2007 08:05 PM

I see, thanks for the tip! You're right, I'd probably use a dremel as I don't have a lathe...

jhautz 04.11.2007 08:42 PM

Its probably because it take BK 3 months to get him any motors ans the Feigaos are pretty eay to get and the same motor . They come from the same distributor as the Lehner I think. And he has been waiting for them for months now.

Mr.lst 04.12.2007 02:07 AM

I think Mike is going to get the lehners direct from lehner soon? I know he is tired of waiting on bk! (along with his customers!)

jollyjumper 04.14.2007 06:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyjumper
an xt8 would be my favorite actually, but i dont see a way around the steel spur.
other then making an adaptor for the ofna 51t spur....

any one have a picture of one of these, i know mike has made them for some already.
it seems that the gearing doesnt differ much with a 51T spur. only 0.5/1 lower from a 46T spur.
i may get the xray instead of the 8-t, but i already said that.

jollyjumper 04.23.2007 08:50 AM

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here are some tire pics:

supralover72 04.23.2007 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jollyjumper
any one have a picture of one of these, i know mike has made them for some already.
it seems that the gearing doesnt differ much with a 51T spur. only 0.5/1 lower from a 46T spur.
i may get the xray instead of the 8-t, but i already said that.

I'm sure mike could just make you a spur adapter.

jollyjumper 04.23.2007 04:15 PM

sure he can, but i will see how the losi comes together and then when that goes real well maybe get a xray xt8 truggy.:027:

jollyjumper 04.25.2007 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AAngel
Brian, if you look at the part of the spur where the bearing sits
(not the spindle itself, but the part that is wider than the spindle and spaces the bearing),
it is about 20/1000ths of an inch too tall. I chuck the spur up in my lathe and turn this down so that the bearing will go down far enough onto the spindle. Then I flip it over and take about 10/1000ths off of the edge of the relief where the diff cup fits into the spur.
One of these days, I'm going to get an aluminum diff cup and modify that so that I can do away with the second step.
I suppose that you could modify the plastic diff cup with a dremel or something,
but doing it on the lathe is so quick that I don't mind doing it.;)

:D
do you measure in inch or millimeter?
10/1000 isnt much, i'll just sand my diffcup down abit. or would that not work?

jollyjumper 04.27.2007 04:55 PM

nevermind, i got answers via pm's.
its gonna arrive next week.
i hope all goes well.
byby, mike.

jollyjumper 05.02.2007 02:32 PM

its in the shop.
wich top speed should i aim for? 30~35 or 35~40? miles ofcourse.

jnev 05.02.2007 06:37 PM

It depends how big your track is, and how long the straights or or how technical it is. At most tracks, you you would only get to about 35 on the longest straight. Maybe 40 if you are lucky and it is a big track. I would personally aim for 40mph, and then if it is too fast, just tame down the ESC a little.

jollyjumper 05.03.2007 05:50 AM

i still dont have a track to go to, so for bashing maybe around 40mph?

jollyjumper 05.03.2007 06:40 AM

this really blows, they tought it was in the package they got,
but its not in there.
:035: :035: :035: :035: :035: :035: :035: :035: :035: :035:

jnev 05.03.2007 06:03 PM

Usually 40mph is all you will need. I personally however, like the extra speed for bashing, so I would aim for 45mph about, and then just tame it down if need be.

jollyjumper 05.04.2007 03:09 AM

how fast would a nitro run if it tops out?

Patrick 05.04.2007 03:52 AM

3.3 Revo's and T-maxx's are advitised at 45+ mph...

jollyjumper 05.04.2007 04:24 AM

i see.
i actualy knew that.
but good news, the truggy is in the shop.
i'm probly gonna pay today, then it should be shipped saturday or monday, to arrive the next work day.

AAngel 05.04.2007 05:11 AM

I don't know about those advertised speeds on the Traxxas trucks. I mean, they will go that fast, but the engine probably won't last more than two gallons of fuel being tuned for that kind of speed.

I don't know if you've ever actually clocked a big truck doing a real 45mph, but that is FAST. You kind of have to push a 4S system to get 45mph in a truggy and things will start to heat up. You can do it more easily with a 5S system, but I think it's still too fast, even for bashing. I'd be more worried about gearing for good running temps so that you don't have anything to worry about while you're having fun. Then, if the occassion should arise, where you need more speed, then you can just do a quick gear change.

Serum 05.04.2007 05:14 AM

great news man. the 8ight 8t is high on my list as nice vehicles.

But i heard nothing but good things about the xray, so who knows..

How much speed do you need on the track? it's better to have a 25 mph with monsterous grip that is hitting 25mph in the blink of an eye than to have a 80mph vehicle that needs a calender to clock its acceleration..

Usually the taller the track, more topend is needed. the tighter the track, the more acceleration you need.

Serum 05.04.2007 05:15 AM

Yes, 40-45mph is wicked fast for an MT..


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