Lehner 2280, Fried.. How good is Lehner's Warranty.?
 

Ran my 2280 in my GST this year, for about 5 minutes.. then the motor seized up. Mike, how good is Lehner's Warranty? The motor smells toasted, too bad I can't eat it :).:031: I was running the 5 Turn 2280, using 8S 3700 Mah Lipos.. on MGM 24.160

That's weird.

What happened?

I doubt if there is any form of warrantee on a motor though.

Man!!!

A humongus motor like the 2280 is destroyed?

Are you sure it's not the MGM?

Hey guys, seriously I have no idea what happened.. I was running it on my GST 7.7. I decided to open the motor up, and guess what I saw, I saw the winding from the center of the motor can, all black and it fell out. the the center part of the rotor was all black, and it smelled like a schulze. Damn, that magnet was strong on that rotor.

I'm sure it' snot the mgm, I later tried it on a feigao 12xl motor with 8s, and it worked fine. you think maybe from sittin' around too long, this happened?.. because that motor had so very little use on it. I just hope Lehner can warranty this or replace some parts, but the windings are F*cked, could this be a faulty motor? Thing is, it worked fine before, on My E-Maxx. Now it's on a gas conversion, which should'nt stress the motor or esc as at all. There's only forward, no brakes, and no reverse. I use mechanical server brakes.. I'm really upset man, that motor costs a fortune. I wasn't expecting to spend much money this year either. :(

that sounds bad:005:

I have a whole bunch of feigao's to stick on this thing, but I spent way too much time modifying it to fit a 22 series motor to go any smaller.. Anyone ever had any experience dealing with lehners.. I wonder if they'll even atleast repair it, I love my 2280, I'm not ready to bury it yet.

HOLY CR*P, I finally got a response from Lehner-Motoren... I just have to send it in now and get it repaired... I guess customs really gives them a hard time... They send send it in, and we'll "try" to fix it.. hey, better than nothing I guess...

Hey aqwut how has the GST been holding up. My buddy got one and converted to a Neu setup. Truck has broken a few times....just seeing if you have had good luck with it. He is trying to get the truck up to some pretty high speeds, but the truck is very unstable above 50-55mph even with smaller tire/wheel combo.

My GST is holding up well.. my 3rd GST is coming in tomorrow.... :)
if he wants to go faster, tell him to lower the truck and to use a "VERY GOOD" steering servo.... mine's dual servo, but back then they didn't have the HS-5955TG... mine's running pretty awesome on the KB45... just gotta send back the 2280 for warranty, and wait for Mike to get me 2 1527s....

What has broken on the truck.. the parts on there are huge... the only thing I could see breaking are the shocktowers...

Yeah 4 shock towers so far and 2 front lower control arms. Why didn't you order from Steve at Neu directly? I am about to buy 2 more XTM MMT's...lol. They are awesome trucks as well and have so much room for batteries and everything else.

well, Mike could get me the motors.. so I figure why not...he got me my first 2280.. :)
the XTM MMTs are nice trucks...

Cool deal.....you will love the 1527's. The twin 1527's though will be a bit of an overkill...lol. A single 1527 will push that truck to over 100mph if you can get it to stay on the ground.

I'm just going GSTs all the way.. I got rid of a few of my other monster trucks to get all GSTs....
GST: 2280-HiAmp (8S)
GST: 1527 (12S)
GST: 1527 (12S)
GST: KB45 (12S)

It took them 11 months to answer an email!?!?!?!:rofl: Good luck with ever seeing that motor again. Id be afaid I was sending it into te black hole with response time like that. Should only be a few short years for them to actually do some work if it takes almost a year to answer an email.

Which 1527's did you decide on?

Jhautz.... I know, but I'm insuring it.. but maybe it'll be ready when my kids are old enough...:lol:

Jze.. I asked Mike to get me 2 of the 925KV... for 12S setups.. :intello:

By that time brushless will be obsolete. We will be running fision nuclear reactors for batteries and photon impulse drives for motors like in star trek. :mdr:

Wow that is a low KV motor. Even on 12S its only spinning to 46K or so. Why not more rpms?

gives me room to run 14S when I get the 40.300...:mdr:

Got any videos of the GST's converted??

You will be out for a while waiting on them to fix anything....sheesh, it takes around 1 year to get ANYTHING back.

JZE .. that's a video I haven't made yet.. I only have the KB45 on it right now.. but I'll make a video of it anyways... I'm goin' to be out of town this weekend.. so I should have a video by next weekend... it's just goin' to be a pain in the arse to lock the center diff... I hate doin' that...

BP.. Yeah, I know, customer service sucks... but they do make great motors....

How does the KB45 run on the big GST?? I was thinking about buying a pair of them for 2 more big trucks I'm buying. Only problem is the 6mm pinion, I don't know where to get them.

the KB45 runs great on the GST.. I'm surprise how powerful it is compared to the Feigaos.... that's why I bought so many of them KB and got rid of most of the feigaos... I'm running the 1000KV KB on the GST right now... You'll see when I post up a video... I have a lathe to drill out the holes.. but since you live in the states, you could order the pinions cheap from sdp-si.com

Hey mister mushroom grower , I don't even know if I would bother with lehners anymore . IMHO they are way overpriced as with anything else coming out of the fatherland , $750.00 for a schulze 40/160.......thats more than the average laptop . Steve Neu has stepped up to the plate with motors that are better balanced , more efficient and a whole lot cheeper . I have a Lehner 3080/7 , 2280/13 and a 1950/10 all of which are no where near as smooth as my Neu 2230 or 1527 . A 1527 will do anything a 2280 will and better.........................................

Can you post some pictures of your setups they sound very interesting

Just my 1.99 cents Canadian.............................:party:

mayoverpriced yes... 1527 can do what a 2280 can do?.. I'm not sure about that... Mr. new said the 1527 can take spikes of up to 170 Amps.. whereas the 2280-HiAmp can take over 400 Amps.. Efficients of the neus aren't better.... depends what/how you run the motors... but then again, I could be wrong, I have never ran a new before.. and I have 2x 1527s coming.. which is about the same price as one 2280-HiAmp... I've always had great luck with Lehners... :intello: Hey, you may be right.. I hope you are!!!!

some of the older setups are on my website...

Which 1527's do you have coming , in 1/8 scale hydro's the 1527's can stand toe to toe with the 2280's . a 1527/1d probably could take spikes that high . They are underrated on there website . I have heard of Neus coming out of a corner in a boat spiking well past 200+ amps .

2280/10.....740kv
1527/1.5Y..750kv

I'm gettin' the 1527 925KV... have you ran the 2280 Hi-Amps?.. they're quite different from the regular 2280s... same size and everything else... but it's just different... that 2280 can pump out 10000 Watts of power man.... I don't know if the 1527 is capable of that... but hey, For $300 it's well worth it.... 2 of those will definately take on the 2280.. :) I just hope the neu motors aren't assembled in Mexico... :lol:

Sorry my screw up with the Kv's , but the 1527's are pretty much a 2280 equal . there is no way you will get 10000 watts from a 2280 high amp or any 2280 for that matter , you are looking at where the 3080 are

Peter, are you positive?.. because LMT said the Hi-Amps were different and was able to deliver more power than the regular 2280s, the stators and rotor are different as well... http://www.lehner-motoren.com/motordaten/Motordaten%202280/2280-5.HA32V.xls

Those datas from LMT were the only reason I purchased this motor back then...:surprised: because back then, I knew that they will finally have something like the 40.300 out... :lol:

this topic was brought up on rumrunners forum , these guys have both but apparently the only difference between the two is the rear endbell

http://www.rumrunnerracing.com/fefor...ehner+high+amp

The rotor of both motors is identical, from my understanding. The stator is different , only because the wires are sticking out. The high-amp doesnt have the wye/delta changing option either:

this reduces the internal resistance, since there are less solder contacts.

Having red a comparision (in german) between a Neu 1515 (340/360gr) and a lehner 1950 (355gr) stating there is no big difference in Power output (only different efficiency points) i think it's fair to compare a Lehner 2280 and a Neu 1527 looking at their wheight.

Wheightwise a Neu 1527 is more comparable with a lehner 2250. A Lehner 2280 wheighs 200-250gr more then a Neu 1527. It is also longer and has a bigger diameter. I think this allone should be sufficient to tell which motor can handle more power since both do claim efficiencies around 90% and both do only cook with water (or should i say copper ...).

BTW windings of the Neu motors do come from Mexico.

There is a good write up (in german though) on Neu Motors (with pictures and diagrams) with a comparision of a Neu 1515 and a Lehner 1950 on this site. By using babelfish you could translate this website.

Very interesting write up....thanks for posting it

Sorry for your LMT loss and hopefully U will get it back in no time.
I do like them both Neu and LMT but I will agree that in terms of balancing Lehners are on the shy side, while none of them will match quality of pletts, just from observation and testing.

Interesting fellows on the boats forum, maybe I should mod couple ESC's for them :)<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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Extra charge for proper, cheaper, simpler end-bell doesn't sounds like German.<o:p></o:p>
What I've read some time ago (and cannot find it anymore, even on the LMT-site they now referring to end-bell difference only!?) that wire gauge was different as well...<o:p></o:p>

Griffin....mod them as in how............................................. :intello:

I agree with you said about the pletts , there quality is second to none , I have 3 brushless pletts and three brushed all ( 355's )

Something like this , I have a lathe and a CNC mill , I mod all my own and also swap the battery cables out to 8awg

Being a plett fan you should enjoy this 355/50/06 and mini berkley jet drive

Sweet!!!

there's is such a big size difference from the neu 1527 and the 2280 hi-amp... that's why it is hard to believe that the power outputs are similar... but I hope that the neu 1527 are just as powerful... I guess we'll see when I get it... and if I ever get the 2280 back by 2010... haaahhaah

Lehner charges more for the rotors of the hi amp motors...
those heatsinks are awesome, I saw them a while back when the OEMRC escs came out...

I really don't think the 1527 can compare to the 2280-5 Hi-Amp... just being able to pull close to 400Amps is crazy... probably will never pull that..

Soon as I get my motors, I'll do a comparison... same batteries, same esc, same vehicle... :)

Are you serious that the Neus come from Mexico?.. it worries me... but the efficiencies are great according to everyone else...