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ssspconcepts 05.05.2007 10:02 AM

Calling all Quark 125 Monster Pro oweners!
 
I am looking to install a Neu 1515 1.5d/F Sensorless Brushless Motor, Quark 125 Monster Pro ESC and 5S Lipo on my Maxx. However, I have a few questions that I am hoping that you all will help me answer:

1. Are you pleased with the performance of the Monster Pro ESC?

2. If you have the RC-Monster heatsink, was it difficult to install? Pictures?

3. How would you charatcerize programming difficulty?

4. Have you had any experience running 5S with the Monster Pro? Any problems?

5. Are there any alternatives that are better than the Monster Pro? Why?

HotnCold 05.05.2007 10:09 AM

1. Yes

2. No - just install ESC on the flat side of the heatsink with thermal transfer paste (Arctic Silver is prob the best) add fans to the other side and wire fans to power on your truck. The heatsink can be found on the main page of the RC-Monster Store...

3. Fairly Easy, helps to have a friend help - one reads the program - other does the programming with the transmitter.

4. None 25 mins on my Smaxx on a track - fine with heatsink.

5. If your hard on the equipment then the 125 is good (imo)- if your easy and finesse is your game - then you could use the mamba maxx -.. Hope this helps ya..

Serum 05.05.2007 10:10 AM

1 smooth as butter
2 i know my neighbour uses it. Two zipties will offer help. It mounts directly into the remaning slot of the emaxx extra motor ear on the motor-holder
3 PITA.. i prefer the mm or a programming card. They are not as hard as the MGM's but the fact you need to take a study in the manual says enough IMO.. it doesn't work intuitive.
4 nope, not yet, but 5S is pretty easy on it. 6S gives problems.
5 Nope, not for 5S, unless you want to put your money on MGM, but they take a rather long time to get replaced if it is broken. Quark has got a flawless warrantee (so far)

ssspconcepts 05.05.2007 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HotnCold
1. Yes

2. No - just install ESC on the flat side of the heatsink with thermal transfer paste (Arctic Silver is prob the best) add fans to the other side and wire fans to power on your truck. The heatsink can be found on the main page of the RC-Monster Store...

3. Fairly Easy, helps to have a friend help - one reads the program - other does the programming with the transmitter.

4. None 25 mins on my Smaxx on a track - fine with heatsink.

5. If your hard on the equipment then the 125 is good (imo)- if your easy and finesse is your game - then you could use the mamba maxx -.. Hope this helps ya..

Thanks. This helps a lot. Love the Avatar. Its funny...in the RC world I will only drive electric. In the real world I will only drive gas guzzling SUVs. Oh well. Both are painfully expensive.

Serum 05.05.2007 10:22 AM

I would love to run a 1:1 electric with the same power ratio as our 1/8th's... :p

ssspconcepts 05.05.2007 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
1 smooth as butter
2 i know my neighbour uses it. Two zipties will offer help. It mounts directly into the remaning slot of the emaxx extra motor ear on the motor-holder
3 PITA.. i prefer the mm or a programming card. They are not as hard as the MGM's but the fact you need to take a study in the manual says enough IMO.. it doesn't work intuitive.
4 nope, not yet, but 5S is pretty easy on it. 6S gives problems.
5 Nope, not for 5S, unless you want to put your money on MGM, but they take a rather long time to get replaced if it is broken. Quark has got a flawless warrantee (so far)

Thanks Serum. I am assuming I would also need a UBEC? I don't have any experience using a UBEC or the Quark 125...I only know the Mamba Max and Mamba 25.

ssspconcepts 05.05.2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
I would love to run a 1:1 electric with the same power ratio as our 1/8th's... :p

Yeah! here too! :004:

Serum 05.05.2007 10:29 AM

Yeah, you need a UBEC, it simple delivers the 5/6V to the receiver it needs. you just take the main leads and tap the high 18.5V and the UBEC makes a nice 6V of it. Unlike the becs in the escs, it uses a small transformer to create the 6V, it is way more efficient than an internal BEC.

ssspconcepts 05.05.2007 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Yeah, you need a UBEC, it simple delivers the 5/6V to the receiver it needs. you just take the main leads and tap the high 18.5V and the UBEC makes a nice 6V of it. Unlike the becs in the escs, it uses a small transformer to create the 6V, it is way more efficient than an internal BEC.

Got it. Thanks.

HotnCold 05.05.2007 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Yeah, you need a UBEC, it simple delivers the 5/6V to the receiver it needs. you just take the main leads and tap the high 18.5V and the UBEC makes a nice 6V of it. Unlike the becs in the escs, it uses a small transformer to create the 6V, it is way more efficient than an internal BEC.


Just dont forget to remove the receiver wire from the plug on the quark - dont ask me how i know - LOL

wallot 05.05.2007 10:58 AM

1. Very smooth but one died after 2nd run. Replacement seems ok, but still strugling with some issues as Quark does not repond to throttle once in a while. Some interference probably.

2. Have it taped (using adhesive thermal tape + few super glue drops) to 2 chipset heatsinks

3. Very, very easy

4. I run 16 cells.

5. For any other motor than neu MM is way cheaper and for more cells MGMs

jollyjumper 05.05.2007 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
I would love to run a 1:1 electric with the same power ratio as our 1/8th's... :p

you'd poo your pants! lmao!:005:

sjcrss 05.05.2007 12:11 PM

HotnCold....forgot to read the part about the opto disable huh.....however.....if you don't want to remove the red wire....you can use the dimension engineering sport ubec..and it uses a throttle pass thru feature and the red wire doens't need to be pulled ( ie turning off internal bec).....that is what ubec im running and it works flawlessly as well

wallot 05.05.2007 12:19 PM

I just use short servo extension with red wire removed.

sjcrss 05.05.2007 01:33 PM

Yup, I used to use that ol trick as well.....it works good too

cemetery gates 05.05.2007 01:50 PM

1. Are you pleased with the performance of the Monster Pro ESC?

I am very pleased, super smooth esc

2. If you have the RC-Monster heatsink, was it difficult to install? Pictures?

I run radio shack copper heatsinks. With my setup I really don't need them though, the esc stays below 85f

3. How would you characterize programming difficulty?

very easy!

4. Have you had any experience running 5S with the Monster Pro? Any problems?

No problems with 4s or 5s. Also it stays cool with an hour of constant running.

5. Are there any alternatives that are better than the Monster Pro? Why?

IMO, it is the best esc available right now. With the Tekin R1MT and CC MMM coming out the Quark might take a back seat, but then again, they have the Plasma coming out too...

Bye:018:

BP-Revo 05.05.2007 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
I would love to run a 1:1 electric with the same power ratio as our 1/8th's... :p

Yea, but whatever money you would have blown on gas would have been spent on new tires every week lmao...

zeropointbug 05.07.2007 10:06 PM

Despite being my first Bl controller, and despite it having a capacitor blow out on me, I still LOVE it. The power, and the smoothness of it is addictive! :027:

I don't know why anyone would think programming it is hard, it's super easy!

The ppl at S&T are very kind and they have by far the best service for any controller you can buy. Service is everything!

If you are going to get it, the new thing that is starting to arise is going to be soldering a couple extra capacitors on the input power leads of the Quark, S&T recommend them as preventative.

GorillaMaxx360 05.07.2007 10:13 PM

what are copper heatsinks and how are they compared to the one mike sells.

cemetery gates 05.07.2007 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360
what are copper heatsinks and how are they compared to the one mike sells.

I use THESE. They work well with my aplication, they might not for everyone though...

Bye:018:

ssspconcepts 05.07.2007 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zeropointbug
Despite being my first Bl controller, and despite it having a capacitor blow out on me, I still LOVE it. The power, and the smoothness of it is addictive! :027:

I don't know why anyone would think programming it is hard, it's super easy!

The ppl at S&T are very kind and they have by far the best service for any controller you can buy. Service is everything!

If you are going to get it, the new thing that is starting to arise is going to be soldering a couple extra capacitors on the input power leads of the Quark, S&T recommend them as preventative.

Thanks. You are not the first to say that S&T has good customer service. This goes along ways with me and is a BIG DEAL.

BrianG 05.08.2007 12:04 AM

1. Are you pleased with the performance of the Monster Pro ESC?
Very much so. Smooth as silk running and no cogging even at very low speeds.

2. If you have the RC-Monster heatsink, was it difficult to install? Pictures?
Heatsinks installed were customized for each install (2 Quarks).

3. How would you charatcerize programming difficulty?
Read the manual and you will have no trouble.

4. Have you had any experience running 5S with the Monster Pro? Any problems?
Highest cells count so far has been with 14 cells and 4s.

5. Are there any alternatives that are better than the Monster Pro? Why?
Define "better". IMO, the best controller out right now. Some controllers have better programmability (MM), some handle higher voltage (MGM, BK Warriors), some handle higher current (MGM, Warrior), but the Quark has my vote for all-around best ESC. There are a couple of "issues" like heating up (add heatsinks), very shaky 6s capability, and no reverse brake.

ssspconcepts 05.08.2007 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BrianG
1. Are you pleased with the performance of the Monster Pro ESC?
Very much so. Smooth as silk running and no cogging even at very low speeds.

2. If you have the RC-Monster heatsink, was it difficult to install? Pictures?
Heatsinks installed were customized for each install (2 Quarks).

3. How would you charatcerize programming difficulty?
Read the manual and you will have no trouble.

4. Have you had any experience running 5S with the Monster Pro? Any problems?
Highest cells count so far has been with 14 cells and 4s.

5. Are there any alternatives that are better than the Monster Pro? Why?
Define "better". IMO, the best controller out right now. Some controllers have better programmability (MM), some handle higher voltage (MGM, BK Warriors), some handle higher current (MGM, Warrior), but the Quark has my vote for all-around best ESC. There are a couple of "issues" like heating up (add heatsinks), very shaky 6s capability, and no reverse brake.

Thanks. Good info to have. I ordered a Quark 125 from Mike and it shipped today.

GorillaMaxx360 05.08.2007 07:57 AM

plus it looks the coolest out of the speed controls (125).

zeropointbug 05.08.2007 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GorillaMaxx360
plus it looks the coolest out of the speed controls (125).

word. The first time I saw it I was like uuhhh, uuhhh..... uuhhhhh. :018:

neweuser 05.08.2007 03:26 PM

I love my Quark, it's smooth. What helped me with programming is having one person read as you program. Or, read it several tiems prior to programming. I ran 5s and 4s, it was nice to run on either. I have a customized heat sink for mine, but you can get some good pics off another thread around here some where.

zeropointbug 05.09.2007 07:30 PM

Yeah, the smoothness of the Quark is just oh so "JUICY". That is the best way I can describe it.

:027:

ssspconcepts 05.09.2007 09:06 PM

Got my Quark 125!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well, I just received it in the mail today! I can't wait to install it.

ssspconcepts 05.09.2007 11:11 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Here it is......

Thanks Mike....your efforts to ship quickly are very much appreciated.

I ordered on Sunday and received on Wednesday...

zeropointbug 05.10.2007 12:38 AM

Nice :027:

ssspconcepts 05.16.2007 08:20 AM

1 Attachment(s)
Here it is all ready for install....

neweuser 05.16.2007 09:02 AM

Looks good!

suicideneil 05.16.2007 04:50 PM

Whats that cable tied to the battery wires?

It is a very nice looking unit compared to alot of others- not sure on the colour of the motor wires though.... but thats why man invented black shrink wrap!

Serum 05.16.2007 04:52 PM

Looks like a UBEC to me.!

neweuser 05.16.2007 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Serum
Looks like a UBEC to me.!

+1 on the UBEC

wallot 05.16.2007 04:53 PM

its dimension engineering UBEC :D

suicideneil 05.16.2007 04:54 PM

I thought as much. But then, whats that under the shrink wrap?....

neweuser 05.16.2007 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wallot
its dimension engineering UBEC :D

Did you get the sport one?

ssspconcepts 05.16.2007 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by neweuser
Did you get the sport one?

Yeah...it's the Sport BEC from Dimension Engineering. I can't remember who recommended it but thanks to whoever did...it was a piece of cake to install and Dimension has a lot of really cool robotics stuff (another hobby I'd like to explore someday). It's a bundle of wires under the heat shrink wrap. I run telemetry on all my cars and the wires quickly become a mess...so I zip tie and shrink wrap everything I can. It also helps keep out dirt and debris and can even help protect components in the event of a crash.

Awhile back I had some ESC wires that dangled down into the drive train...I swore that I'd never let it happen again:035:

ssspconcepts 05.16.2007 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suicideneil
Whats that cable tied to the battery wires?

It is a very nice looking unit compared to alot of others- not sure on the colour of the motor wires though.... but thats why man invented black shrink wrap!

I have to agree about the colors...but that is the way Quark shipped it. However, they included top of the line connectors...can't complain about that.


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