First watercooled rtr vehicle! Concrats Finedesign!
 

One way to camouflage the shortcomings of a hot running motor.. Instead of choosing a better motor, just add a pound of cooling system..

http://209.196.57.91/ME2/dirmod.asp?...592E6271EBCEEF

I am hearing that song of the steve miller band..

Go on.. Take the money and run.. Whoo hooow...

That looks cool. I always oogle that car at my LHS. What motor would you use Serum?

Ugg. I'm not even gonna say it...

I like the use of a cooling coil and a fan! I am sure that it makes the feigao run cool, I never have any issues with my boats that have those motors in them. Not sure how well that coil will work, but it will do something. I wonder why the esc would need watercooling, it is only doing forward control so i would have thought that it would not heat up so much, maybe the higher kv motor he is using is causing the heat problems!?!?

Something less hot than a 4XL.. :lol:

Funny, he has a controller capable of 6s, which would allow for a much lower kv motor and negate the need for water cooling, boost runtimes and probably weight the same. 2s lipo = cooling system weight?!. Plus it would be simpler, and run cooler too. Oh well, to each his own!

as always just consider the source :)

I saw that one too :lol:

Toolboxes

Why not use even cheaper lipos and wrap the cooling hose around it too :rofl:

I know that Mike doesn't advocate knocking other guys, but I just don't possess the restraint or tact that Mike does. CF is a POS and this is just a shameless exhibition of how far he is willing to go to make a buck.

I know that guys are running Feigaos in boats with the water cooling and are NOT having heat issues. The water cooling does do the trick of masking the shortcomings of those inexpensive motors. On the other hand, I also know guys running Neus in their boats with no cooling at all and they aren't having heat issues either.

It seems to me that this is just another way for CF to be able to put more of your $ in his pocket. Instead of all of that crap, he could just put a Neu motor on the model and sell a better product, although it will have a higher production cost.

he could have at least used a good heat exchanger

Yeah, strap an neu motor to the fd one. Neus never get hot, so they must be great heat exchangers!

HAHA

At least it isn't nitro.... or brushed.... or finedesign... oh wait scratch that last one.

Two out of three ain't bad...

You can't hate Nitro that bad Brian!?

Necessity has been called been called the mother of invention but I think in this case it was the ugly cousin of southern engineering(funny considering he's a Yankie). He(CF) sent me one of those(boat) controllers as a warranty unit for a car controller that one of his XLT4 motors fried usumably because he received a big batch of them and none for cars. I cut my losses and e-bayed it. I do everything possible to avoid ever having water anywhere near my electrics; so in addition to having to supply power to a pump, I think its a bad idea whether it is "sealed"(yeah right) or not. And like someone else has already stated, it really just isn't necessary.

Just another ploy to get more money out of folks who don't know any better.

Take the $140, and get a Neu instead. Or what, doesn't want to JB Weld the clutchbell on a nice motor? hahaha Lipos are too small IMO, and the weight balance is bunky.

How does he get his stuff in mags, and who buys this stuff? Clearly we are in the wrong business.

totally agree. I actually have one of those packs (got it for like $60 on ebay) and well it gets warm with my neu 1512 3d (1700kv) let alone a really hot motor.

also I have dealt with cf before, and well after finding this place I will never deal with them again.:yes:

I like how he uses motor cooling coils as a radiator of sorts with a fan blowing toward it...[note sarcasm.]

i like how he miss spells brushless

taken directly from the website.

"The burshless motor is water cooled and is setup to use the stock 2-speed Kyosho clutch."

it probably means burstless, which directly affects the lipo pack that's used.

Then it should read "burst-prone"...

Don't say that and get him ideas, He may be looking

I'd rather buy me an inferno, some cheap elecs from unitedhobbies and do it myself...

BTW: I always wondered where to get these motor clamps to but electric motors on nitro mounts?

I've had my experiences with my initial purcahses from FDM when I was first learning about brushless.

All I can say is that I bought 4 of the 2S 3700mAh lipos from him and I almost s**t myself when I discovered that when they were a year old 1 of them puffed just sitting in storage. About 2 months later the other 3 packs all puffed the same way. Needless to say that was about $500+ down the drain.

I've never had any other lipo puff up on me like that (and we're talking owning TP, Kokam, Orion, TrackPower, and MaxAmps packs).

Just as a side note - I read this about a puffed or vented pack somewhere - it said put the pack in salt water and put a knife through it. They didn't happen to mention how volatile the chemistry in the lipos really are. When I put the knife through the pack it literally melted the last 1/2" of the knife to the point where it looked like it came out of a blast furnace.

After learning my lesson, all I can say re: FDM is - "JUST SAY NO!!!":diablo:

The are available through BK, they use them to mount motors in boats..

Yup, I believe Mike can get/has them.

I was wondering when someone would post about this on here...and I couldn't agree more with you all. It's just such a stupid and poor setup on so many levels!
It wouldn't be quite so bad if he used a lower-kv, cooler running Feigao, and didn't glue the clutchbell to the pinion. Oh, and not use a gimmicky watercooling setup that could wreak havoc if a pipe split/came off. And if he actually used a car controller instead of a Hydra. And used decent LiPos. And the list goes on! I think I'll stop myself here before I really go on a rant, lol.